I think we need a BG club. I just picked one up last week and I will soon have it in my basement. I have a few things I wonder if other BG owners have done.

Any one have any mods?

Any one using the latest ROM (L-8)? If so, whats different about it, is it worth it?

Ill throw pics of mine up by next weekend, but lets see those beautiful BIG GUNS!

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I am fully measured and approved.

I plan to LED it out. I am going to copy the TNT youtube video for the LED's as their's looks VERY nice.

I will think about the mylar....isnt the playfield already covered in mylar from the factory?

Any one ever take the head completely off theirs? Anything I should be extra cautious about?

This is an awesome idea. I agree that Williams should have done this. I had this same issue with Fire when I played it, I had no idea the post was up.

Good thing I only paid $600....

How does it get ANY play if its too tall for your basement?

Can any one tell me if BG is prone to ghosting with LEDs as well?

I wont even tell you how old I was.

My wife calls it "the dick machine"

Here is what I am thinking for the backbox. (Coin Taker)

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44 RED SUPERS (18)
44 GREEN SUPERS (17)
44 BLUE SUPERS (10)
44 ORANGE SUPERS (2)
44 COOL SUPERS (5)

I based this off of this video from TNT. really like the look of their back box.

Going with Coin Taker kit but I am going to customize the back box colors.

Any one have ghosting issues with LEDs in BG? Should I pay the $20 to upgrade GI and inserts to non-ghosting, or is it not a big deal?

Finally got BG in the basement. WOW, so many connectors in that backbox. Got it all back together, cleaned the Kings Chamber out, and installed LEDs in the backbox.

I think it looks GREAT.

Cant wait to do the playfield. Going to start this week some time.

Wow.

Glad mine is in pristine condition. Barely any wear at all on the PF.

I kind of like those different colors behind each guy in the kings chamber. I have cool white behind each right now, doesnt look as nice. If you get a chance, take a pic with the lights off so I can see it in all its beauty!

Dare I say, I may have a HUO Big Guns? LOOK at this shooter lane....never seen one this clean.
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Shopping isnt going too bad...although they made it pretty rough to get the back corner plastics off....I may forgo those for now since they arent TOO dirty.

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Thanks! I am pretty happy with how it turned out. The CT kit I customized looks sweet. I am going to color match the kings chamber though. Luckily I have a few colored 555 around so all I need to order is a blue one and a flasher I was missing. Does every ones BG have 2 flashers along the back wall behind the scroll?

Another question; How does every one have their rules set? I am thinking I am going to increase the time allowed to rescue the queen and then up the amount of guards to all 10 so you have to hit the 2 banks of 3 and the 2 banks of 2 as well. Might make it more difficult and more fun. Queens rescue seems to go really fast with default time and only 6 guard targets to hit. What do ya'll have your set at?

Nice.

Any one have an issue with the bagatelle always lighting the same lane for the extra ball shot at the end? Mine seemed to move around at first, but now it only seems to select the lane farthest to the right exclusively.

I THOUGHT I saw a thread on this a while ago, but I cant find it.

Any one?

Yes, I believe this is a malfunction. I think I read something about some diodes....I will continue to look.

Well, we need to get to the bottom of this. That is my favorite feature. At first, mine was moving the lane all over the place from game to game. Now I am stuck on lane 5 only....LAME.

Im going to keep searching.

Dude, sweet socks.

Seems like I have another weird random issue. If I have both cannons loaded, and I am fiddling with the third ball and not locking it, after a while, the cannons kick out and fire and reset to be loaded again....is this normal?

Played the hell out of my BG this weekend. Finally topped the scores with a 3,587,250 score. Not too shabby. This was my first time killing all 10 guards with my current settings. I have it set to 10 guards and 25 seconds. Seems to be a good setup.

Soon enough I will be rolling the score over like so many have said before....we will see.

As for the King's Chamber EB shot, it actually moved from 5 to 1 a few times, but never any other spots. I wonder if it changes based off of plays on the machine? I had a lot more before I replaced my batteries....hmmmm.

Any one have issues with your drop target opto boards? My top left bank isnt registering any more and I am getting the knocks on start up that all 3 need adjustment.

I tried a cue tip with some novus 1, but that didnt do anything. I think I need to pull and re-flow the solder on each.

Any one pull this board before? Kind of in a weird spot. Seems hard to remove.

WOAH! You are the man! Thanks.

OK, I had 30 minutes of time last night to get this done.

I pulled the board, cleaned the optos with a cue tip and alcohol, put it all back together, no more error knocks.

NOW though, when I start a game, the troll and green arrow are already lit on that side....WTF!

Maybe I need a new opto board? $35...not TOO bad...but still. Maybe I should reflow after all. They didnt look too bad to me when I inspected.

Any other tips?

Nevermind. Just got how early (thanks boss) and fired her up for a game. Plays fine. Dunno what I saw last night.

Thats a pretty high score. What do you have your machine set at? Mine is 3 mil for saving the queen and you have to kill all 10 guards in 25 seconds. With the way you have it set, you may roll the score over more easily as you save her the second time.

I had mine set to 20, but it seemed too hard for my demographic of pin players I usually have in house. I myself havent saved the queen more then once in a game yet though. Im just over 4mil for my high score. This will probably change as I usually go down when my xmas party starts winding down and pound out a ridiculous score in my stupor. Has happened the last 3 years, every year.

Ive got my queen rescue set to 3 mil. Its adjustable as well. The whole game is.

Special is EB...come on guys....lol.

I dont all EB on any games but BG. The bagatelle is too neat of a toy to make it irrelevant.

Ya you do. This was my fear, hence why i made my settings more difficult.

weird you have a blue stand up target instead of green.

Its an interesting theme, with a shallow rule set, that can still be challenging if you set the settings right.

I picked mine up for $600. I wouldnt pay more then $900 max, unless its a true HUO with low plays, but thats just me.

more pics please.

I prefer warm white up top and cool only on the slings...fits the colors better. Keep them coming though, I really wanna see the light those spotlights add.

Im not a fan of the blue, I like cool white better on those troll guards.

I have switch errors every once in a while too...machine plays fine...one time it was the drop target opto though, cleaned it with some alcohol and a que tip, all good. i forget which switched give me the knock errors at start up, but i know i get 2.

As for the kings chamber light, i think it depends on how often the extra ball is awarded. mine was far left for a long time, and would award a lot. then it moved to the center, which it has been for a bit and hasnt been awarded in a while. im glad it is moving though, i was getting mad that it wasnt.

What does this mean?

Also, those spots are super bright, if i could dim them i would be in.

I do like the green bands though

mine is l-8....not much to change about this game with code though so i dont know what 10 could offer.

Unless I get the right price, mine probably wont be going any where for a while either. With my hard settings, I still havent rolled it over.

Thats pretty nuts man!!! haha.

I can post a video next weekend.

I thinks its a translite...

Any one put super bands on their machine yet? These green would look nice on white flippers...thinking about these for my main flips and maybe orange for the tops.

http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/39-6519-21

I think my current flippers are yellow, but I am condsidering switching to white when I do a flipper rebuild down the line. Not sold on that yet though.

My bottoms are yellow and my tops are green. Im thinking about painting the bottoms blue to match and put green super bands on them. Then paint the tops orange and put red super bands on them. I think it may march nicelyZ

The cannon fire inserts? They light up when the cannons go off.

Ive had mine do that weird ball search thing too...its like there is a timer for the last top cannon load after you complete the first queens rescue....not sure if thats the intention or not.

LOL, what are you gonna do with THAT?

I like to think the trolls say "you're gonna f*ckin' die!" lol

Ya, when you lose a battle he says "shes mine now", i think we are talking about when you knock the targets down and activate the big troll target behind the drops. thats where its hard to tell.

I have it on the HIGHEST setting...love attract sounds, makes me feel like im in a real arcade.

I align to the guides, but i havent done it on my BG yet.

I put a piece of wood or something else rigid against the guide and make sure the flipper aligns to the guide so its a smooth transition from guide to ball, no jump. Is it right? Maybe? Does it work? Yes.

I didnt have that much trouble at all with super bands. I stretched them a bit with my hands, then they went on fine.

You could use some silicon grease to get those on I believe.

Let us know what you end up getting for it.

So my BG is acting up. It keeps popping up "Adjust Failure". I had this happen before, changed the batteries, no more problem. This time, I put in a remote battery holder, popped new batteries, in, set my settings back, played a fewa games, no problems. Yesterday I go back again, flip BG on, same thing.

WTF mate! Are my batteries draining quickly for some reason? Maybe something else? Any help?

I need to check the voltage coming off my batteries...but I think this is my issue.

"New CPU Batteries Die very Quickly.
Just to the side of the battery holder on the CPU board, there are two "blocking" diodes, D1 and D2. These form a diode bridge, blocking the battery voltage from the power supply, and vice-versa. Where these two diodes meet, power goes to the U25 RAM. This way when the game is on, power for the U25 RAM is drawn from the power supply. But when the game is off, power for the U25 RAM is drawn from the batteries.

If either diode D1 or D2 is bad, it can let the batteries attempt to power all the +5 volts logic for the whole CPU board when the game is powered off. Or it can let the +5 volts from the power supply attempt to charge the batteries when the game is powered on. In either case, this will cause the batteries to die quickly.

If you have batteries that are dying very quickly, replace both diodes D1 (1N5817) and D2 (1N4148) on the CPU board. "

So I tested the voltage at the battery pack (4.8v) and at the battery holder itself (still 4.8v)....any idea why my game wont hold its settings? I already bought diodes...but that may not be the issue....hmmmm.

No, I bought a relocation "kit" from lock when lit. I will check the contacts in the battery holder and see if that is the issue.NVram is expensive...but I have been considering it.

I bought blue clear super bands for my lower flippers and green clear for my uppers...i think its gonna look sweet.

Looking for other mod ideas.

Mine are too! My left cannon kicks the ball out after a little bit while you have a ball in play. Is that your issue?

Let me know if ths ends up working. This issue has started to piss me off pretty bad, i may try and remedy it before my xmas party. Thanks

Did a quick clean and wax on a couple machines last night in anticipation of my party this weekend. Decided to throw the super bands on too I have for BG. WOW, they look BADASS! What do you think?

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I got a set of sling plastics on ebay for $35 shipped, keep an eye out on there.

Welcome. I have an offer of $1000 for mine...not sure I am going to take it. I really like having a system 11 around in my line up. I think the only thing I would do is trade it for another, most likely Fire!.

I got a show deal at the expo last year and got the coin taker kit. The only thing I customized was the back box.

I like the cool whites in my skull inserts.

I agree, LEDs on the inserts when done right looks awesome. Really makes them pop.

Sad day....my Big Guns is gone. Traded plus cash for a JP.

My wife hated BG and said it was "the penis pinball" since there are a lot of dick references on the playfield, cabinet, translite, lol.

There are TWO arcades by me that have BG, so I can play it again if I want to. I just needed to shake up the collection. I had a really nice BG too.....sad day.

Couldnt go without a System 11 though...ended up replacing it with a SOF!

FYI Galloping Ghost and Emporium now have a BG each. I saw you were local.

You GOTTA do the translite like I did...makes it pop. Looks so good.

Whoops...heres a better video any ways.

Backbox list. Got all the leds from cointaker.

BACKBOX GI

44 RED SUPERS (18)

44 GREEN SUPERS (17)

44 BLUE SUPERS (10)

44 ORANGE SUPERS (2)

44 COOL SUPERS (5)

Hey, I sold mine a while back but I see you live in Oak Park. Emporium on Milwaukee has a BG if you need any reference that cant be had here...

Huh, must be gallopping ghost or empire

They must have reset the high scores. Pretty sure I had one up on that machine danger played on around 6 mil.

Hes really just a voice and a face, i dont feel like his pinball skills are allthat great. I kinda wanna challenge him one day, lol

Buncha copy cats!

Thats a really nice $700 BG, congrats. GET BACK IN THERE!

Its fun in a large collection of say, 10. I love the art, the theme, and the sounds, but the game play is definitely repetitive. After I sold mine, I played one at a local barcade. When I walked away I said to myself "nope, not sad its gone".

$0.25 lol

Hell ya, led that bish. She looks really nice.

Any one in Chicago area snag the $450 BG on craigs? Looked pretty nice. Was tempted.

Nice! I sold mine for space mostly but also because I wanted to fund a DMD. I was sad after it was gone though, as I am with most. I will definitely pick another system 11 up though. Dont forget to post some pics!

Did i ever get you my bulb counts? Sorry im on my phone, dont see if i did or not.

You have to set it up properly to make this game hard enough. The default is only 6 guards I believe to save the queen. I made it all 10. Why have those stand up targets there if you arent going to use them, right?

I had BG thinking it would be an easy game for my non pin head friends to get. Lock the balls, start the multiball, kill the guards to sve the queen. Easy enough right? NO...not at all. Lotta short ball times and killing trolls in the upper pf. Oh well...I moved on. SOF lasted a little longer, but I always wanted a HH so I couldnt believe SOF was worth more. So the sale of SOF funded HH and I had spare cash left over. Still would like another System 11 some day, maybe another SOF or a lawlor game.....hmmmm

Earthshaker...Ill consider it. Its got the AFTERSHOCK code too now, right? Taxi Ive played to death already, good call though.

Pics man!

Not gonna lie, I miss my BG some times. Its just such a weird game with cool artwork. I love the bagatelle too.

Yall will be happy to know that I took the high score of the night at my local pinball club this weekend. I do miss this machine a bit, maybe some day if the price is right.

SAVE THE QUEEN!

Here was my backbox arrangement. Got a lot of compliments.

BACKBOX GI
44 RED SUPERS (18)
44 GREEN SUPERS (17)
44 BLUE SUPERS (10)
44 ORANGE SUPERS (2)
44 COOL SUPERS (5)

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Can you flatten them with weights and use heat to remold them a bit? Ive seen guys do that before with warped plastics.

Maybe an extended queen rescue involving the ogres up top needing to be defeated.

Something more with the bagatelle as well.

I always set my Big Guns to defeat all 10 guards and not just the center 6. Made my games much more satisfying.

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