Both Clay and Steve say not to remove it. I have a Gulfstream Backglass just the way it came. Easy money, just install it as-is Chris.

Ken

I am going to go this route with my Sorcerer backglass at some point. Curious what you all think of the quality and how close is the resto to the original?

That tape is what's holding the paper printout edges to the glass.

I think unlit, the BGresto stuff looks fantastic. Once lit, they are about 10-20% less saturated in color. If I only had a single machine I would probably not have cared much, but sitting in a row of similar era games, it looked washed out and really stood out. Now, I got mine close to a year ago (and have since replaced it with a nice original I found) They may have changed their printing technique since then. Still, much, much better than a missing, cracked or severely flaked backglass.

Paper printout? For real? Their website says the artwork is "bonded" to the glass. Bonding doesn't sound like taping to me.

Anyone else have one? Is it really paper?

It is bonded, the tape protects the edges, I'd say. It has a plastic coating/layer over the sheet that bonds it to the glass. But, yes, on my glass it appears to be a high quality paper printout bonded to the glass.

I think everyone would acknowledge that a screened repro is always the best solution. The problem is, many of us own games that will never have a repro made by either of them. Some of them are really good players but aren't a Gottlieb and as such, they get ignored when the repros are considered.

Chris,
Let's see some pix of the "PF" backglass repro.

OK, now a friend of mine says the artwork is not paper at all, but a film. He's got a bgresto glass, and no tape either

Which is it?

I think his is maybe a year or so old. Maybe a bit older.

I'll say this, I don't want a glass that has the art printed on paper. I'm not even sure why they would do that. The film definitely seems to be the better option.

I've emailed them to find out for sure how they're doing it.

For sure, but the issue with paper is that the film would be much more likely to let the light through. If they're using paper, that might help explain why their glasses are so "dark" when lit.

You sure about that?

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If they're using paper now, they're cheaping out. I thought they had some kind of proprietary process. If they're just making paper copies, they are in danger of copyright infringement as well as producing a product of diminished quality.

Not too bad really overall. What do they get for it?

Well, they're already in danger of that.

Word... I'm really trying to keep my mouth shut because I'm not sure how I can say anything without being overly negative. I wish there was more to "how the sausage is being made" because I'm not sure how long this will be viable. Regardless of WHAT it is, it sure looks a lot better than a flaked-out glass.

Where is the comma that should be next to the 1000s score box ? between the 100s and 1000 S ?

Brian

A little birdie tells me that you are indeed correct. While I really appreciate what they do, they are treading dangerously close to legal trouble.
I know someone up in Union, NJ who is also looking for a very good "PF" glass. I told him to check out bgresto, but I don't know if he did. Yeah, a little pricey if it's just a paper and glass sandwich.

I received my Pro Football repro backglass from bgresto about 4 weeks ago-no tape on sides.
What I have noticed is the light diffusion does not seem to be as good as the original-in some places the positioning of the backglass globes is clearly evident and the mauve or light purple colour on the male footballer is a noticeably lighter shade.
I am nevertheless happy with the purchase largely because what it replaced was the pits and adversely affected the whole presence of the machine.

Within this vid, the bgresto process is explained.

I have one of their glasses in my Aztec. There is less color saturation when lit. I think LED's would be a good candidate to brighten them up to an incandescent brightness level when compared to traditionally screened glasses.

I talked to Steve at bgresto about the process. After that talk, I'm satisfied that what they're doing is a quality product and I won't hesitate on them at all now.

I really couldn't recall everything he told me, but it's way more than a "paper and glass sandwich" to be sure.

From my understanding, they skirt the copyright issue by providing "restoration." I also could have swore that they previously did not require your glass if they already had the artwork, but you needed to provide a signed affidavit that you have destroyed the original. I don't see that now on their site though, as the probably provided too much of a loophole. They now appear to unequivocally require your backglass back.

"They now appear to unequivocally require your backglass back."

On my experience only the photo of the glass is required.