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Beware of Scam Game Seller Websites

By ForceFlow

1 year ago


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    #401 24 days ago
    Quoted from Eddie:

    Anyone ever use (Coin-op parts etc ) ? If so any issues?

    That's a storefront for automated services. They're legit.

    #402 24 days ago
    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    That's a storefront for automated services. They're legit.

    Thanks for the info!

    #403 22 days ago
    Quoted from mbeardsley:

    Having this list is great...for us pinsiders.
    But I wonder how many other people are still getting ripped off by these people.

    Many, as it seems to be profitable to setup new domains, websites, e-mail and social accounts and phone-numbers, pay for advertising and have trained english speaking people quickly respond to chats, mails and pick up the phone. They also improved in their scam as they spend time on it and acquired pinball knowledge to answer questions better and have prices and descriptions more in line with the market.

    Quoted from mbeardsley:

    And is there some way to prevent it?

    Chicago Gaming, Stern and other trademark owners actually have the power to send cease and desists and demand that Google and other search engines and sales sites to remove these listings, and even get the website disabled if they reach out to the hosters.

    It is surprising that manufacturers don't seem to spend time on this because the scammers extract money out of the pinball market and potential customers will after being scammed not try to buy a machine again. This reflects negative on the whole industry.

    As soon as scammers get enough resistance it becomes less lucrative and they move to another market to scam (before they did high end guitars and moved on from that to ATV vehicles/Quads and Pinball)

    #404 22 days ago

    This one looks pretty sketchy. I think I’ve seen it before. Never interacted with them though. Just found it a few sites down on google while searching for “Tron Pinball”

    www.saferwholesale.com/Tron-Legacy-Pinball-Machine-p/tpc%20-%20tron%20legacy%20pinball.htm

    #405 19 days ago

    Is this website legit? I didn't see it on the scam list. docpinball.com/brands/jersey-jack-pinball/

    #406 18 days ago

    Thought I would post this. Somebody selling a legit machine shouldn't be taking almost four months to respond. The query was for a Captain Fantastic.

    Maintenance my ass. Not sure what is more pathetic, that they actually responded, or didn't bother to correct spelling in the response.

    Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 10:25 PM
    I was looking at the CF you have on sale, for $2300. How is shipping handled with the machines you sell, and any ball park estimates of what it would cost to ship this machine?

    Thanks in advance. My regards,

    John

    The response, delivered this morning, January 19, 2023

    Greetings from Calissfiedpinball.com

    We just want to say we are sorry for not getting back to you as quickly as possible, Our website was on maintenance but right now we are back Foreal.

    So kindly get back to us so we can proceed with your order

    Thanks from the team of Classifiedpinball.com

    #407 18 days ago
    Quoted from tampa12:

    Is this website legit? I didn't see it on the scam list. docpinball.com/brands/jersey-jack-pinball/

    Yes, it's on JJP's distributors page.

    #408 18 days ago
    Quoted from jlbintn:

    Thought I would post this. Somebody selling a legit machine shouldn't be taking almost four months to respond. The query was for a Captain Fantastic.
    Maintenance my ass. Not sure what is more pathetic, that they actually responded, or didn't bother to correct spelling in the response.
    Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 10:25 PM
    I was looking at the CF you have on sale, for $2300. How is shipping handled with the machines you sell, and any ball park estimates of what it would cost to ship this machine?
    Thanks in advance. My regards,
    John
    The response, delivered this morning, January 19, 2023
    Greetings from Calissfiedpinball.com
    We just want to say we are sorry for not getting back to you as quickly as possible, Our website was on maintenance but right now we are back Foreal.
    So kindly get back to us so we can proceed with your order
    Thanks from the team of Classifiedpinball.com

    Are they spelling Classified wrong, two different ways? What is the actual website? Definitely should be on the list.

    #409 18 days ago

    Classified Pinball. They are on the list.

    #410 17 days ago

    Scam page copying Eau Claire Arcades Facebook page

    facebook.com/profile.php?id=100076246921424

    And this new Facebook account recently appeared (David Johnson) that pushes scam links with positive testimonials

    facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064067510863&mibextid=LQQJ4d

    #411 17 days ago
    Quoted from The_Pump_House:

    Scam page copying Eau Claire Arcades Facebook page
    facebook.com/profile.php?id=100076246921424
    And this new Facebook account recently appeared (David Johnson) that pushes scam links with positive testimonials
    facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064067510863&mibextid=LQQJ4d

    Thanks, added to the list.

    #412 16 days ago

    Another scam facebook page. I believe all the ones I've previously listed are the same scammer.

    facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063658161788&sk=about_profile_transparency

    #413 16 days ago

    This vending nation scam profile/website has been on the list for a while, but it seems scammers on facebook are going around and peppering their scam sites on various pinball/arcade groups and recommending them as legitimate places to buy.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/pinballenthusiasts/posts/6181950961837779/

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    Arrey Wilson scammer profile: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100082855356770

    And stealing photos from legitimate sellers:
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    Be sure to check the "page transparency" section on pages...this particular one is showing the operator/scammer is based in Cameroon, while the address information claims it's in the US.
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    #414 16 days ago

    I updated the guide with a couple of new bits of info:

    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    If the seller provides address information that indicates that they are located on any floor other than the ground floor, that may be suspicious. Most legitimate pinball businesses are located on the ground floor due to the challenging logistics of moving & shipping pinball/arcade games from any upper floors.

    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    If your bank warns you about making a venmo/zelle payment LISTEN TO THEM. There have been several instances of people reporting that they were scammed, and that they ignored their bank's warning about it.

    With wire transfers, the name on the account should match either the seller/owner's name or the business name, but if it doesn't, it might be an account controlled by a scammer.

    #415 15 days ago

    Added to the list:

    facebook.com/profile.php?id=100089003689496 (Mr pinball machines)
    jmpinballmachines.com
    instagram.com/pinballstore.22
    instagram.com/jmpinballmachines_0
    instagram.com/pinball_machines00
    instagram.com/pinball_class2
    instagram.com/jacabcouzo
    instagram.com/pinballarcade_
    instagram.com/pinballmachines1
    pinballmachinery.com
    instagram.com/pinball_game09
    instagram.com/pinballworld
    instagram.com/mundopinball
    facebook.com/groups/1048267171921775/user/100082061724426

    #416 15 days ago

    Another instagram faker to add to the list. (The_arcadegamemachines)

    just scrolled through this one and saw this was for sale….A Predator for $5k Lol… I almost wish this wasn’t a fake…. Nonetheless.. they have 13k followers
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    #417 14 days ago

    With only 32 likes on a post I can assure you their followers are fake as well haha

    Quoted from Luke_Nukem:

    Another instagram faker to add to the list. (The_arcademachines)
    just scrolled through this one and saw this was for sale….A Predator for $5k Lol… I almost wish this wasn’t a fake…. Nonetheless.. they have 13k followers
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    #418 14 days ago
    Quoted from Luke_Nukem:

    Another instagram faker to add to the list. (The_arcadegamemachines)
    just scrolled through this one and saw this was for sale….A Predator for $5k Lol… I almost wish this wasn’t a fake…. Nonetheless.. they have 13k followers
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    Thanks, added the profile and the website thearcadegamemachines.com to the list.

    #419 14 days ago

    ForceFlow I just wanted to also drop in and say thanks for everything you’re doing man!

    #420 13 days ago
    Quoted from Maverick222:

    With only 32 likes on a post I can assure you their followers are fake as well haha

    Some maybe, not all. To many people blindly accept follow requests.

    #421 13 days ago

    I agree. definitely not all, but the majority of his followers are fake. I work in social media so that’s an easy spot. They bought the followers to try and make their page appear as a legitimate seller. Anyways, it doesn’t matter how many are fake or not…even if one person is being conned that’s bad enough in my book! Glad to see these accounts getting exposed!

    Quoted from Wmsfan:Some maybe, not all. To many people blindly accept follow requests.

    #422 12 days ago

    Anyone interested in taking a more proactive approach to dealing with these scammers? Send me a PM, let's pool our investigative time and resources to get some of these scumbags shut down.

    #423 12 days ago

    Added t.me/pinballmachineshop to the list.

    #425 7 days ago
    Quoted from The_Pump_House:

    Facebook.com/Pinballmachineforsales

    Added it to the list, thanks

    #426 7 days ago

    Scammer posing as us in Instagram. They are literally using just about every post we make including those that are watermarked.

    Instagram/pinballfunmania

    Notice how they’re using the word Fun in their name to piggyback on ours.

    I’m getting countless messages from people asking if we are associated with them. WE ARE NOT.

    #427 7 days ago
    Quoted from hassellcastle:

    Scammer posing as us in Instagram. They are literally using just about every post we make including those that are watermarked.
    Instagram/pinballfunmania
    Notice how they’re using the word Fun in their name to piggyback on ours.
    I’m getting countless messages from people asking if we are associated with them. WE ARE NOT.

    Looks like it's already in the list. It appears to have been identified almost a month ago. Ugh. It sucks that the page has been operating for that long.

    I can't imagine how annoying and frustrating it is to constantly have to deal with this.

    #428 6 days ago
    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    Looks like it's already in the list. It appears to have been identified almost a month ago. Ugh. It sucks that the page has been operating for that long.
    I can't imagine how annoying and frustrating it is to constantly have to deal with this.

    And Facebook will do absolutely nothing about it. I report scam sites as scam sites all of the time and not once has Facebook responded with anything but “thanks for your concern but this page does not violate our community standards”

    #429 6 days ago
    Quoted from hassellcastle:

    Scammer posing as us in Instagram. They are literally using just about every post we make including those that are watermarked.
    Instagram/pinballfunmania
    Notice how they’re using the word Fun in their name to piggyback on ours.
    I’m getting countless messages from people asking if we are associated with them. WE ARE NOT.

    Omg you’re the staircase and checkered vct floor!

    No scam post is complete without your staircase!

    It’s so bad I just scroll past that staircase when I see it on Facebook

    Your best bet to combat these assholes is to file copyright claims against them. That will actually cause meta to shut their accounts down

    Facebook copystrike
    https://m.facebook.com/help/contact/1758255661104383

    #430 6 days ago
    Quoted from The_Pump_House:

    Your best bet to combat these assholes is to file copyright claims against them. That will actually cause meta to shut their accounts down
    Facebook copystrike
    https://m.facebook.com/help/contact/1758255661104383

    Or better yet, get your lawyer to send a C&D letter to Meta. That will get their asses moving.

    #431 6 days ago
    Quoted from The_Pump_House:

    Omg you’re the staircase and checkered vct floor!
    No scam post is complete without your staircase!
    It’s so bad I just scroll past that staircase when I see it on Facebook
    Your best bet to combat these assholes is to file copyright claims against them. That will actually cause meta to shut their accounts down
    Facebook copystrike
    https://m.facebook.com/help/contact/1758255661104383

    That staircase and floor is so famous right now. Unfortunately every time I see it it screams scam for me. So crazy. hassellcastle, what's your actual insta account, just so I know who to like and who to spam

    #432 5 days ago

    Someone just fell for the standard scam of sending money to ship a game, unfortunately:

    https://www.aussiearcade.com/topic/100824-gumtree-pinball-scam-warning/

    1) A good story of how the game came into the "seller's" possession.
    2) A case of FOMO.
    3) Stolen images, stolen gameplay video, and screenshots from stolen videos.
    4) Buyer asked to see it in person, "seller" said yes, and the line of questioning seemed to stop there.
    5) After the money was sent, then came excuses why the game didnt ship, then eventually silence.

    Scammers are getting smarter. They know how to answer trick pinball questions now. Beware!

    No matter how much you might want to believe that something is true, don't forget that scammers are liars; they will say anything to get you to send them money.

    #433 3 days ago
    Quoted from Shogun00:

    Or better yet, get your lawyer to send a C&D letter to Meta. That will get their asses moving.

    Or best of all, avoid the cesspool that is Facebook like the plague!

    #434 1 day ago
    Quoted from StrangeSubset1:

    That staircase and floor is so famous right now. Unfortunately every time I see it it screams scam for me. So crazy. hassellcastle, what's your actual insta account, just so I know who to like and who to spam

    Our legit IG account is:
    fun_pinball_superstore

    IG: pinballfunmania is a SCAM copying us!!!!

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