Line : (209) 315-8428
contact at vendingnationstore.com
312 East Belmont Avenue, Fresno, CA 93701
Now google map that address......took a pic of a legit business to use their address. Different name and phone number.......and on their FB page they have tons of happy customers in Africa. 
Quoted from guard:facebook.com/Vendingnationstore
vendingnationstore.com
This is showing up at a whole bunch of Canadian FB forums.....looks hinky to me. Thoughts?
Quoted from guard:Line : (209) 315-8428
contact at vendingnationstore.com
312 East Belmont Avenue, Fresno, CA 93701
Now google map that address......took a pic of a legit business to use their address. Different name and phone number.......and on their FB page they have tons of happy customers in Africa.
It was added to the list of scams sites a little over a week ago.
Found a new kind of scammer, I don't know how the scam works but I am sure that these machines are not owned by the seller:
ebay.com/str/voltapaginanetlibriusatienuovi
Somehow they try to circumvent the eBay fraud detection with the instruction that the customer should place one exact bid to get the item: for example $7500 for an TAF
was just looking at this site, pinballmachinesstore.com/product-category/pinball/used-pinball/
is anyone familiar with this?
Quoted from SkillshotExhibit:was just looking at this site, pinballmachinesstore.com/product-category/pinball/used-pinball/
is anyone familiar with this?
Yes, it's on the scam site list on page 1 of this thread.
If it’s too good to be true it is. Trust me. Deal with good Pinsider or reputable distributors and resellers period.
Quoted from ForceFlow:Thanks, added.
Since it appears that it is/was a real place run by a real person and not part of the ring of anonymous scam sites, I'm not going to include it on the list.
So, In the new age, inthenewage.com is legit? I was just going to buy from them.
Quoted from math08:So, In the new age, inthenewage.com is legit? I was just going to buy from them.
Nobody really knows. Have yet to see anyone confirm they've bought from this place and received what they paid for.
I brought it up on the virtual pinball thread as well almost a year ago because they supposedly sell casino slot machines too.
Someone said they had called or contacted them and talked to a real person. This means nothing to me. Watch the movie Matchstick Men with Nick Cage and Sam Rockwell and you'll see what I mean. Until someone confirms they have bought and received exactly what they ordered, I'd stay away.
Here's my post from a year ago and there were a couple more close to this one that mentioned the site.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/virtual-pinball-club/page/53#post-6455868
r/
Mike
I called them to ask about CCrSE and SE+. left message and they called back said they could hold my place for SE+ by paying in full, then they will ship when available, maybe April. They offered it for 8k, delivered! They would hold full payment until delivery, and if not delivered, they will refund in full. Sounded desperate and sketchy, so I declined offer. Aa local deal came up and I pulled trigger on it. Check BBB and trust pilot reviews, not terribly reliable.
Quoted from ricko62:I called them to ask about CCrSE and SE+. left message and they called back said they could hold my place for SE+ by paying in full, then they will ship when available, maybe April. They offered it for 8k, delivered! They would hold full payment until delivery, and if not delivered, they will refund in full. Sounded desperate and sketchy, so I declined offer. Aa local deal came up and I pulled trigger on it. Check BBB and trust pilot reviews, not terribly reliable.
They who?
Quoted from ForceFlow:They who?
My guess is inthenewage? see my response about 3 above that one. nobody has successfully completed any transaction with this "company"
Like I said, answering the phone doesn't make them legit in the least.
Quoted from ForceFlow:They who?
Inthenewage I presume.
I think they are legit. I know they're an authorized Rock-ola jukebox distro. Their website is seizure inducing though so I wouldn't buy from them.
Added to the list:
instagram.com/pinballmemory
instagram.com/pinballmachines_gallery
instagram.com/pincardiaarcade
instagram.com/pinballmachinesales
instagram.com/pinball_arcade_games.shop
instagram.com/pinballmachines97
Thinking we need to add classicpinballguru.com. Site was just advertised on CL, and it has all the red flags.
I didn't see this on the list.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.pinball/c/kXwzIMf5Cx4?hl=en
mrpinballmachines.online half price or better prices.
LTG : )
Quoted from Yoko2una:Thinking we need to add classicpinballguru.com. Site was just advertised on CL, and it has all the red flags.
Quoted from LTG:I didn't see this on the list.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.pinball/c/kXwzIMf5Cx4?hl=en
mrpinballmachines.online half price or better prices.
LTG : )
Thanks, added them to the list.
Two others, they are running out of good domain names:
pinballcrypt.com
oldiesgames.us
Scammer on Bonanza.com:
bonanza.com/booths/HanaVee
Hi guys...
just checking with all of you here.
I'm looking for a sweet deal on a TOM machine from Chicago, Illinois. This is their address: 4611 Main St Lisle, IL 60532
Its for sale through instagram and they ship overseas to The Netherlands, Europe.
Their instagram page is called pinballfunmania and the bio also says Homearcadecorp.
Are they a respectable business? Anyone here have done deals and good reviews?
Is this a legit company to buy from? Since I live in holland I cannot go there myself to check up on things.
Pleas advise...
regards,
Jeroen
Quoted from Jeroen:Their instagram page is called pinballfunmania and the bio also says Homearcadecorp.
Are they a respectable business?
Not a chance.
Their profile is full of stolen images.
Looks like yet another scam profile to me. Homearcadecorp is already on the scam list.
Quoted from Bumper:Two others, they are running out of good domain names:
pinballcrypt.com
oldiesgames.us
Scammer on Bonanza.com:
bonanza.com/booths/HanaVee
Thanks, added to the list.
Quoted from DJThinK:Is Ace Amusements out of Arlington TX reputable?
They look legit but there are many Pinsiders in the Dallas area that may be able to provide further input. Xerico
way2wyrd
pinballrebel and others.
Owner appears to have another site (although the eBay store referenced there is now closed).
arlingtontexasattractions.com/about-me-contact-me.html
aceamusements.us/
Quoted from ForceFlow:Not a chance.
Their profile is full of stolen images.
Looks like yet another scam profile to me. Homearcadecorp is already on the scam list.
Okay...thanks for this reassurance. I did see the exact same photos of a TOM twice in their feed on IG. Made me wonder already....
Wow!
My boss asked me for help finding an Attack From Mars and... my Google search found pictures of my basement! Ad is lifted directly from pinside to include my old description!
pinballsarcadegames.com/product/buy-attack-from-mars-pinball-machine/
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/archive/105355
Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:Wow!
My boss asked me for help finding an Attack From Mars and... my Google search found pictures of my basement! Ad is lifted directly from pinside to include my old description!
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/archive/105355
That is bad, maybe Pinside should start to watermark the images to make it not too easy for them.
Quoted from The_Pump_House:pinballmachineshub.com
Website isn't up yet but their new facebook page pointing to it is.
Added, thanks
Another instagram profile. Cracks me up as they all try to friend me lol.
instagram.com/pinball_machine404
Quoted from Our_Man_in_Oz:Another instagram profile. Cracks me up as they all try to friend me lol.
instagram.com/pinball_machine404
Thanks, added to the list.
Yeah, they seem to send out invites & friend requests en masse to try to build their profile numbers to make them look somewhat legitimate.
Having this list is great...for us pinsiders.
But I wonder how many other people are still getting ripped off by these people.
If you Google "Chicago Gaming Company Monster Bash" one of the first sellers to pop up is pinballmachinecenter.com, who claims to have new MBR-SE machines "in stock" for $6079 - and if you hurry you can get a 20% discount too!
Their website looks reasonably professional, and I could easily see people thinking it is a legitimate business.
I can only assume that these guys must make a decent profit from ripping people off, or there wouldn't be so many of these phony websites.
How is it that they get their website shown in the Google results way before actual legitimate dealers?
And is there some way to prevent it?
Quoted from mbeardsley:Having this list is great...for us pinsiders.
Since this is an established thread, it comes up as the first result when searching for pinball scam and other related search terms. So, chances are high that non-pinsiders will stumble upon this thread.
I've also seen the link to this thread posted on other pinball sites, on facebook, and on reddit when the question about the legitimacy of a (scam) dealer site comes up.
Quoted from mbeardsley:But I wonder how many other people are still getting ripped off by these people.
Based on the number of people who go so far as to ask about them, and how many websites and social media profiles these scammers put up, I'd say it's probably pretty lucrative for them.
Quoted from mbeardsley:How is it that they get their website shown in the Google results way before actual legitimate dealers?
Those are ads ad the top of the page. You can get some for free from google as a promotion and/or if you meet certain requirements. Or, you can just pay for them.
I have an ad blocker, so I never see them.
Below the ads, then you get to the actual search results with the legitimate dealers.
Quoted from ForceFlow:Since this is an established thread, it comes up as the first result when searching for pinball scam and other related search terms. So, chances are high that non-pinsiders will stumble upon this thread.
I've also seen the link to this thread posted on other pinball sites, on facebook, and on reddit when the question about the legitimacy of a (scam) dealer site comes up.
I'm thinking more about non-pinsiders who are not searching for scams, but actually looking to buy a machine (and are not expecting to encounter scam-pinball sites). They just search for "xxxx pinball machine for sale" and are then suggested "pinballmachinecenter.com" instead of "flipnoutpinball.com"
Quoted from ForceFlow:Those are ads ad the top of the page. You can get some for free from google as a promotion and/or if you meet certain requirements. Or, you can just pay for them.
I have an ad blocker, so I never see them.
Below the ads, then you get to the actual search results with the legitimate dealers.
No, I'm not talking about the ads. As you can see in the image here, if I just search for "Chicago Gaming Company Monster Bash", the 1st result is the CGC website, the 2nd and 3rd results are Pinside's machine pages for the LE and SE, and the 4th result (the first one that has it for "sale") is a scam site.
Is there a way we could bulk-report the pinside scammer list to Google?
pasted_image (resized).pngQuoted from mbeardsley:Is there a way we could bulk-report the pinside scammer list to Google?
You can try this:
https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/?hl=en
Quoted from mbeardsley:I can only assume that these guys must make a decent profit from ripping people off, or there wouldn't be so many of these phony websites.
Yeah, this way these scammers don’t hafta waste their time catfishing lonely old ladies for six months or more to get a stranger on the internet to send ‘em thousands of dollars! Pinball guys might likely cough up the dough same-day! 
Yeah, I looked at that, but that's to report sites that are attempting to collect personal information, not scam sellers.
And there's no way to report more than one site at a time, so adding your whole list of sites would be quite a bit of work.
Facebook profile Donald Reed scammed me for an arcade TRON. He had good English. Used Michelle’s name for shipping. Even went as far as to schedule shipping with Beltmann. He jerked them around to delay as he had a pinball machine for sale at the time.
I don’t have the arcade. He’s a scammer that has caught on to using trusted shippers and the names of the reps. He only uses Zelle as payment.
413E6B52-F0CC-4312-BD29-96779CEE0627 (resized).pngQuoted from mbeardsley:Is there a way we could bulk-report the pinside scammer list to Google?
Not bulk, but I did send a link to this thread when I sent Google feedback.
Click the three dots next to the scammer's result, then click Feedback.
The feedback area opens on the right.
My feedback was something like, "This site is fraudulent. They do not have and cannot obtain the pinball machines they claim to sell. Here is a link to a list of fraudulent pinball machine sales sites: (link to this thread included)
Please contact me if you need further details."
ReportScammers (resized).jpgReportScammers2 (resized).jpgQuoted from TheMatterhorn:Facebook profile Donald Reed scammed me for an arcade TRON. He had good English. Used Michelle’s name for shipping. Even went as far as to schedule shipping with Beltmann. He jerked them around to delay as he had a pinball machine for sale at the time.
I don’t have the arcade. He’s a scammer that has caught on to using trusted shippers and the names of the reps. He only uses Zelle as payment.
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Sorry to hear that. Scammers are getting smarter and more knowledgeable as they interact more frequently with folks in the community. They have been rapidly learning how to talk the talk.
I'd recommend reviewing this thread if you haven't already/recently:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-not-get-ripped-off-in-pinball-vids-guide/
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