I believe the Batman is better, considering the time and all. Then again I may be wrong. Prolly just a rigid Batman fan!

I think B66 has the better ruleset but I think once Elvira has more time the code will become just as good.

There's so many different ways to go about playing batman.

For novice players, they attack the 4 main villains. Advanced players, will work through the minor villains.

It's hard to compare these 2 on the code, Elvira is still new and incomplete, but the playfield and the number of shots show that it can become a killer game once the code is completed.

But I don't think any of these 2 reaches the code depth of a JJP, where LOTR plays in the same league as TSPP in the deepest games that Stern ever produced.

It comes down to which theme you like better. Both games are fantastic, 3lvira shoots much nicer. Both games have reasonable ball times so you can get a good idea of what each game is like by playing them both.

Have fun. No wrong choice, both are really good games.

Funny, these are the exact 2 I have it narrowed down to for my next pin, probably going to be Elvira because the wife absolutely loves it.

You know what u to do then, right? Buy both. It just feels right.

Best advice in this thread by a wide margin!

So two ways to attack it then?

If you’re looking for an epic journey, batman is definitely not that. Rules are great though.

Haven’t played Elvira since really early on, but I hear great things. Ball times take FOREVER on it though. If that matters to you.

You can't go wrong with either of these choices. Plenty going on with the rules on each. Batman is a little more polished at this point since EHOH is still less than 1.0 code (0.95 I think). Both are a good mix of objectives (modes, working towards mini-wiz and wizard modes) and points strategy (stacking modes/multiballs, playfield multipliers, etc.). It's worth checking out both in a home environment at some point, so grab one now and one some other time.

Regarding these two games, despite of Lyman’s talent, I can’t pass away the poor playfield design.

I can’t speak on Elvira much since I only played early code, but I really do love Batman. The theme integration ranks up there with hobbit, I feel. Each villain works through particular episodes corresponding to the series, so consequently you see a lot of different clips from the show. I prefer playing it to work my way through the villains, and seeing more clips, rather than getting more points. Before you start your game, you can choose to assign different episodes to the major villains too, so you get to see even more clips. Hope that helps!

Elvira by a country mile! After owning bm66 I had decided I liked TDK better. That big turntable ended up being a stinker and the execution of the crane was not nearly as satisfying as TDK.

No. Hobbit or LOTR maybe are the only two I’ve seen that fit that bill.

My opinion I would go with Elvira. I’m a huge Batman fan. I’m a comic guy. Huge DC fan. My back room is the bat cave I have a bat chair. I had Batman 66 for nine months. I just couldn’t play it anymore. I got rid of it fo Tspp. Mine just wasn’t smooth. It might have just been my table. But I still killed the game. My Elvira is smooth. Long ball times. The animations on Batman is what saved the game. It would have been a turd if not for Lyman. I loved answering the bat phone to start the villains. That’s cool hit the bat poll and shoot it around the left to hop in the bat mobile was satisfying. My opinion Elvira is the better game. The house is so cool with all the lights that change. Gappa angry is a blast.
I haven’t got to play .95 yet. But it’s already a beast of a game. My brother was hesitant when I got Elvira. He was worried it wasn’t going to be good. It’s a keeper for sure.

I’m not hating on Batman 66. It’s a good game. Just not great in my opinion

Elvira code is really coming along very well. My vote is for Elvira, though admittedly I don’t have a lot of time on BM.

Elvira has a lot going on, there are at least 6 mb, progression through the house, house party, side modes with the crypt, Trailer trash, Johnny mode, etc. it may not be difficult, but there’s a lot in this code and progressing through it just feels fun, not like chopping wood with some games.

Wish I could get more time on Batman.

I owned BM66 for 8 months. It has good code but I hated the gameplay. Like Pinstein said above, I prefer BDK.

I purchased EHOH after putting some time on .93 code last month. For all you who preach about how great BM66 is, EHOH simply blows BM66 away!

The depth and quality of the code is nothing short of outstanding and only getting better! Although it is a fan layout, there is so much going on, you don’t give it a thought: 9 distinct “haunt” modes, House Party, Deadheads, Freak Fryer, Gappa Angry and the 6 associated side modes, Un-happy Hour, Drive Me Crazy, Gar-goils Gone Wild, Hand is Fate/Manos Wheel, at least 10 different multiballs that are accessible as you progress through the game...

This game is one of the best ever made!

I think about it this way:

B66 was released and the code was pretty much a dog. The playfield layout isn’t for everybody - but it’s not a fan, so it’s at least an attempt to make it unique. Then later on, (a year later? Or more?) it had some killer updates that were light years beyond the First release.

EHOH had a good but still kind of ho-hum first release. Then it had a MAJOR update. And another. And another! Another one was just released 2 days ago. It’s fun, NOW. B66 took a lot longer to get to where it was even fun.

I personally bet on EHOH Ultimately being a better game (vs another NIB I had in mind). Very happy with my decision.

I wanted BM66 to be a keeper, but I'm just not sure now.

Rob

Wow what a great topic. I missed out on Batman 66. I was not in a position to buy at the time, and even when Batgirl edition was released, I couldn't afford. Played, enjoyed, and still want one.I missed expo 2020 in Chicago but had tix to Midwest gaming expo and was going just to check out Elvira. Just bought an Elvira premium, strictly off Twitch footage. I had bid on a 66 premium for $7500 and missed out so bought this. I absolutely love, & see my family playing for years.

I had Batman 66 and loved everything about it except for the gameplay. It just shoots okay in a couple the shots are just a little too tight. I sold it to buy Elvira and I'm glad I did. Elvira shoots a lot better the code is very deep already. I have had about 20 Stearns and I consider Elvira one of the best 3 with Lord of the Rings and Star Trek.

Agree with the sentiment for EHOH. While both are fun pins the layout and shots in Elvira are superior to BM66. I thinks it’s one of Sterns best package in recent times.

Wow, guess I need to play Elvira. I didn’t vote because I haven’t played EHOH but thought BM66 would run away with it.

I told ya so!

Truth. Now go get one so I can play one!

Sell Dialed In.

To me!

I don’t know about rulesets, but I ended up going Elvira. It is a Nordman design with Freres on art, Lyman on code, Elvira on custom video and the voice actor from SS. I was looking for a BM66, really happy I didn’t find one or I wouldn’t have been able to afford Elvira.

Also I am with you on Dialed In....love that one as well.

Owned BM66. Loved the Batman theme more than Elvira. However, EHOH edges it out with better play and shooting.

I owned BM66 for a few months and it was fun and I didn’t mind the shot layout it was kind of cool. The code was pretty decent but it only had a few things to really go for. To get to the mini wizard modes you basically just did the same thing 3 different times. I own Elvira now and as it sits(code .95)it’s got a lot more going on then BM66 IMHO. Elvira does a great job of using everything on the table. The modes are fun(but so was B66). The call outs are top notch...love them. The crypt is a cool toy that has its own objectives. The trunk toy is fun and also has its own objectives that tie into the main modes. The house itself is really nice looking and starting to get more interactive with each update. The main multiball(garage)has 3 different layers that each fell different. Grappa Angry wizard mode is just awesome. One other good thing is all the physical locks in this game Just make it feel a lot more interactive...rather than virtual locks.In the end Elvira should end up being a great pin.

Too tight? I would say challenging...what is a good point in my book.

What I qualify as tight shot, then I need to play an Houdini, some people are also talking about ACNC. One or 2 shots are also tight on Alien.

maybe wait to see the next JJP if you are « clicked » with these games. Just a thought.

The Batman 66 rulesheet is one of the best, if you know how to play it right...
Elvira is just fun. But I hope it will be better after more updates.

I voted Batman only because it is finished. 3lvira is quickly becoming one of my favorite games but there are still holes to fill which is expected for a game that isn't at 1.0 yet. Finished wizard modes and implementation of the raygun and other items should put it over the top.

Only played routed versions of both. And EHoH far less. And already enjoy Elvira far more. I wanted to like BM66 so much. It’s flawed. Lots going for it but it’s just not very fun. I can always get a really long game going on it, and it gets boring. I owned LOTR for years and never got bored of it. GOTG is more fun than BM66.

I was pleasantly surprised by Elvira. It just feels right. I’ve played Elvira and JP2 about the same amount and so far like Elvira better. Seems like a more satisfying overall package. Need more time on both of these. Don’t really care if I play BM66 again or not, but Im sure I will, because I’d love to change my mind on it.

I did like BM66 a lot and game play is pretty good just not quite as smooth as Elvira. I put 800 games on BM so I I did enjoy playing it and the shots were rewarding. I would pick Elvira over any newer Stern to be honest.

Solved! Both great games

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well, can i say : in fact was thinking about Munsters, but...

The better one is the one YOU enjoy most.

Get BOTH if you can afford it!

Both are FUN (sometimes long-playing) games with incredible code.

Now that Elvira is more compete what do you think?