NIB Stern Pros can be had for under $7k shipped. That's the best value in pinball currently.

I don't know. If you already have the base module 3500 for a Heist or Weird Al seems like a good deal to me.

This year I spent $6700 on DeadPool Pro and $8300 on CCr SE, both NIB.

Deadpool is just awesome. I beat it for the 2nd time yesterday and still am probably going to go play it in a moment. It's super fast, interesting, great code, and has just enough visually on the PF (katana ramp, lil DP, truck, spinners, drops, and hammock DP) that it seems dynamic enough and not bare.

Meanwhile CCr is a mech machine. Move over GZ Prem. CCr is all mechs, toys, and ramps. Add in the beer glass (like Elvira gargoyles) and the pop up posts and shootout targets and it's even better. Then throw in the color changing speakers and the large DMD w/ high-res dots, and this game is f'ing loaded. I can get to High Noon if I'm really dialed in that evening. Probably been there half a dozen times. But the game is awesome and is built like a tank.

So if you think both are good value for what you get at their respective price tags, and if the price difference isn't an issue, it really comes down to whether you want a Stern or classic B/W game.

Honorable mention: I did get a floor model AIQ Pro for far less than NIB pricing and that's arguably the best value because that game is also loaded for a Pro and was less than NIB. I had a chance to scoop another title recently on basically the same deal, but I'm out of space, money, and the titles in question weren't my cup of tea... but if those weren't issues, floor models are great deals!

You need to add a Poll..

TMNT pro

Bought one NIB and it’s a rare case of me not missing it after it left. All the different playing modes at start were awesome, but the scoring was terrible and some of the shots were just too clunky. If you can’t hit triple krang after a million attempts in a game, you can kiss cowabunga goodbye. Also if Lair is clunky, kiss Training (and it’s mini wizard) goodbye.

It is a loaded Pro though.

It does.

Same here, not a bad game at all but didn't feel a desire to keep it after 6 months. Traded it fir a Deadpool pro and never looked back.

In my opinion stern pro games are the best value of there nib.

Maybe Elwin pros AIQ/GZ/JP or a Rush pro.
Not much “value” NIB anymore vs seeking out lightly played second hand game as market softens a bit.

Another vote for CCr SE or SE+

CGC doesn't have the usual development costs with their titles, other than the embelishments. A Stern Pro still has to have all that design of original code and video content. So CCr is cool, but the code and video on Sterns is deep

So this would be true up until CCr if you get a chance to play one at a collectors house you can turn on the original code and see how much was done. This is almost a new game entirely infact they had to create a new OS different from the Bally/Williams just so they could complete this game. The original had 1 mode and didn't have Bionic Bart or even a match screen for that matter! Also there will be a much deeper enhanced code with new hardware coming but the value in that is yet TBD cuz pricing is NA yet.

They are all shit values to be honest

Deadpool pro is probably the “best”