I kept the inserts and flashers incandescent as I think they are bright enough in this pin plus you won't lose the light show. I use CT 2LED frosteds (or similar) in the GI. WW for the most part with some green in the POTD and red along the shooter.

I actually like having the inserts LEDs and the GI incandescent. I think it makes the game pop in a way that's not tossing out that "factory" look.

they make warm white LED as well. You may want to just buy a few bulbs in both LED and incandescent and then experiment and see what you like best. It is an art that needs to be pleasing to you. what I like may not necessarily be what you like

That's usually the way I roll (CFTBL, TFTC etc..) but it's no joke when people say that LOTR looks FANTASTIC with all incandescents. It really does give a warm glow of middle earth. I have no desire at the moment to switch anything to LED and I am a huge LED guy. Even my Gorgar is LED'd out.

The best way to fry this fish is get the pinball first and look at the LED conversion. Post photos so I can see what you have to give input. If you have photos from the seller . From reading your other post you might. Post a photo. I can tell you this much. I added a ton of color LED to my LOTR L.E. more than any other pinball in my collection. Look awesome . I call it the LOTR LE' Psychedelic Edition 'There are two places were LED's do not work on LOTR. #(1) 8-9 44/47 sockets along going up the shooter lane. LED's flicker very bad if used in those sockets. I took the 8-9 44 clear incandescent bulbs out and replaced then with orange colored 44 incandescent . Look great. # (2) on the playfield inserts I went all LED accept the GIFT from the Elves inserts leave those incandescent . For some reason after testing that is what looks best in the Gift insert . My machine can be seen at : http://www.cometpinball.com/

My current pref on LOTR is all incandescent, but bling out the flasher behind the ring with something bright--white, yellow, or red. I currently have a color changer in the acrylic ball to bring a little more attention to the Palantir shot--but it looks a little out of place and will probably be coming back out.

Haven't explored warm LEDs yet, but I'm pretty sure that's going to be an inevitable swap out down the road.

Get the pinballbulbs.com kit. Lays it all out for you and great lighting.

Just finished dropping in my RS kit and it looks great, to me, the best/sharpest lights and you can use the frosted and supers as one in the same by simply popping off the cap.

GI is basically everything above the playfield and not the inserts. That's how I like to put it.

I prefer the incandescents in my LE. I have a color changing led behind palantir and under the multiball inserts but that's it. If I ever get around to finishing my POTD mod I'll have a few more. Oh and the led in Balrog forgot about that. I'm going to pick up a cointaker to brighten that up. I find most led conversions in LOTR to look out of place, - Barry

I did all warm white clear domed LEDs is mine, even in every insert(PotD excluded). Then I added the LEDOCD board. It is about as good as it can get IMO.

You said it had LED's in the machine.

You do not do anything to it till you see it . Have photos of it . Or it is in your home . Then post a photo as I mentioned before. Do you have a photo of this machine you supposedly buying. So Post a picture of it .

First off do your own LED conversion . Be creative . It is best to choose each LED and cheaper. More work. But gratifying . Secondly it has LED in it so WHY would you go buy a kit You are talking in circles Kaneda. I love LED and know a lot about them . I will help you all I can. But stop right now till I can see an image of this mystery machine.

Game Exchange of Colorado LOTRL.E. with PinballBulbs . If it is a kit than I change my stance it look awesome. http://imgur.com/a/zNh9C#uqmDT20 My LOTR L.E. on Cometpinball site . http://www.cometpinball.com/category-s/1833.htm

GI is short for General Illumination. It's basically all lights above the playfield (except for maybe the flashers). Then you've got the insert lights, and the backbox lights.

My LOTR is incandescent, which I think looks find so I'm not inclined to change it. However, if my LOTR already had LEDs when I bought it I would've left them in. It takes time and money to do a full lighting swap, so unless you think the LEDs are ugly I say leave them.

I left my LE with all incandescents except for the 3 inserts for the multiballs. I put green for Fellowship, red for The Two Towers, and blue for Return of the King (to match the movie / dvd colors). I started a thread on it called "LOTR - quick, easy and cheap mod" with pics.

I like incandescents everywhere else as its warm, goldish in color and strobes great.

If I recall, all GI and inserts have the same bulbs. If you get the game and if you want them, l have a shitload of them you can have. Just let me know.

Listen to RobKnapp Kaneda, he knows what he is talking about.

I installed the Pinallbulbs kit in my lotr. I can say I am not a big fan of led's and I am considering taking them out and returning it to incandescent. It is the only pin I have that I can play with the room lights off. Just too bright for my taste and the colors are very exaggerated. Don't listen to anybody and make your own decision, it's a very personal choice.

I want a photo of kaneda with current newspaper and a sign saying "I finally followed through and bought a pin."

LOTR looks great with incandescent bulbs. If you're going to go LED you probably want an ledocd board and regular (not non-ghosting) leds. I've found that non-ghosting LEDs look particularly bad in this machine. LOTR has a lot of fade and ripple affects.

LEDs with the OCD board is my favorite for LOTR.

The LED kit from pinballbulbs is in mine and it is phenomenal! I was really hesitant to change from incandescents, but I couldn't be happier! Great kit and the led strip lighting they include is great! I'm just waiting for the guys t finish an IJ kit now......

Come on Apollyon stop smoking that Northern Lights weed. You know that in LOTR The GI are 44/47 accept for the Pop bumpers. And the Controlled lamp / inserts are almost all 555.

Thanks Chief !!

These guys do a great job, I really couldn't agree more!

cometpinball is another good source for LED's

My mistake. It was off the top of my head and obviously an error. Thanks for pointing it out.

Don't need a kit just standard bulbs 44/47 you can buy anywhere.

As I mentioned in my previous post, if you buy the game (and prove it as other people have joked), let me know and I will give you the incandescent bulbs you need.

An incandescent bulb is an incandescent bulb is an incandescent bulb. All you've got to do is make sure it has the right base and is the right size, then stick it in. Apollyon has offered some up, but here's a couple links so that you know how cheap/easy they are. I've gotten used sets from people here that have converted to LEDs and always keep a few on hand just in case something blows and needs immediate replacement, since my LEDs are usually so specalized. The packs of 100 below are around $7/pack.

If the game comes with an owners manual, there will be a bulb list somewhere in there to tell you what other sizes you'll need as far as flashers.

All bulb sizes: http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=3&pg=1

Bayonet/#44: http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=2521

Wedge/#555: http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=2525

Shhhhhh! I'm trying to sell him a kit!

Jayhawkai has absolutely the best incandescent bulb kits out there. I don't know of any other kits that are better than his.

I agree, Jayhawkai assembles the best incandescent kits on the market. You better buy one quickly before he signs a deal with an online retailer to exclusively sell his kits. Then you'll have to pay full price. Buy one today while the discount is still available

you guys are too funny

I wouldn't pack them up yet........I believe we are all waiting for pictures.......However, if the OP did buy an LOTR it was a great choice as I picked one up along with a POTC this weekend and am thrilled with both pins. LOTR is a good complement to a game like IM in my opinion and it replaced my TSPP as I felt TSPP, TZ and LOTR all had similar type qualities and decided that TZ and LOTR would be the two "stop and go games" that I kept in my collection for some "diversity"....I prefer faster games but like some variety not and then....if I was limited to one pin personally I doubt LOTR would make the cut even though it is a great game but even for a "bad player" you can have really long games which get old after awhile.

I used the Cointaker LED deluxe kit. Once I had them installed, I found the Fellowship member inserts were WAY too bright, and a little strobey, so I switched those back to incandescent. I also left much of the GI incandescent. LOTR has some great dimming effects that LEDs just can't do.

So, wait... Are you ACTUALLY buying a pin??!!

Haha. LOTR is a great place to start. Super deep. Amazing layout. Amazing integration of the theme. You can't go wrong.

Good luck.