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Best Desoldering Equipment

By The_Great_Man

2 years ago


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    #1 2 years ago

    So it has become clear to me that if I am going to do any work on pinball machines built after 1976 - I am going to need a good desoldering station/vacuum/gun.
    Has anyone done the research and hands on experience and can tell me what to buy. Looking to spend a maximum of $150. Thank you.

    #2 2 years ago

    Spend the extra $125 and get a Hakko. It’s well worth it.

    #3 2 years ago
    Quoted from The_Great_Man:

    Looking to spend a maximum of $150

    Well, for a good desoldering iron, you're probably going to have to spend a bit more. This is probably what your price range would get you:
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    A little more at $265:
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    A good tool is going to cost a bit. I admit that I really didn't want to spend that much on a desoldering iron at first, but it was well worth it. If there are any local pinball folks who do repairs, maybe ask if they can show you how to use it and give it a try.

    #4 2 years ago

    I guess I understand the love for Hankos... they are promium consumer grade equipment as a somewhat reasonable price.
    That said; I tend to be "eliteish" on my benchtop tools.
    Metcal Soldering Irons
    Pace MBT-100 Desoldering Station
    and another high end brand for a heat pencil. Forget the brand right now.
    All were had on Fleabay for an under 100-200 each.

    #5 2 years ago

    I get it. Ebay has a Hakko FR-301 for $215. (Of course it comes from Japan for that price)..Is that what I need.

    #6 2 years ago

    I've been looking for a better de-soldering setup too. Right now I'm using a hakko soldering iron and a mechanical pump & braid wick when needed. That works pretty well with a chisel/shovel tip but sometimes there's just one little dot you can't quite get with intermittent bursts, but not often enough to rationalize the price of a quality de-soldering iron.

    What I really want is to keep doing what I'm doing except replace the mechanical pump with a powered vacuum but if such a tool exists I can't find it.

    #7 2 years ago

    I've been using this lately for everything and I have an electric de-soldering gun.
    It's made by Vampire tools and costs a bit less than $30. High quality, the silicone tip is replaceable and doesn't melt with heat. The thing rarely clogs.
    I call it the "high end cheap option".

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    #9 2 years ago

    Just get the Hakko, it's well worth it.

    #10 2 years ago

    Circuit Specialists has a six dollar 40 watt iron with a built in vacuum plunger. Looks really interesting. Some ebay sellers have them. https://www.circuitspecialists.com/soldering-irons

    Had used old Radio Shack desoldering irons for thousands of desoldering operations (with the red rubber squeeze bulb). Thumb would get tired & no temperature control & tips wore out, but fairly cheap. Think you can still buy them. Yup, ECG brand $21 ebay.com link: itm
    Or a no-name unit $20 ebay.com link: itm Use new tips for the fine work and save old tips for other jobs.

    Me damage brain? Remember to wash your hands well after working with lead solder. Also drugstore 90% isopropyl is a cheap flux remover.

    Been very happy with a rebranded AOYUE 8800 Desoldering gun sold by Circuit Specialists under their own brand. Looks like the older Hakko, but it may not be available anymore. Came in a hard side case with three tips, sponges, and cleaning tools for something under a hundred bucks on ebay.

    #11 2 years ago
    Quoted from GLSP3022:

    I've been using this lately for everything and I have an electric de-soldering gun.
    It's made by Vampire tools and costs a bit less than $30. High quality, the silicone tip is replaceable and doesn't melt with heat. The thing rarely clogs.
    I call it the "high end cheap option".
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    I used the $10 solder sucker for years then upgraded to this ^ $30 solder sucker and thought it was great...then when actually doing serious board work....it sucked. not in the good way. I FINALLY sprung for the hakko desolder gun FR-301. WHAT THE F WAS I WAITING FOR. hands down the fastest easiest desoldering you'll ever do. Literally one use vs the solder suckers and you'll know you bought the right tool.

    #12 2 years ago
    Quoted from GLSP3022:

    I've been using this lately for everything and I have an electric de-soldering gun.
    It's made by Vampire tools and costs a bit less than $30. High quality, the silicone tip is replaceable and doesn't melt with heat. The thing rarely clogs.
    I call it the "high end cheap option".
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    $19 at mouser, works well but i struggled recently with removing residual solder from through holes with it , will try wick or spring for a desolderer next time

    #13 2 years ago

    I've been using the Aoyue 8800 and its served me pretty well. I think it was around your price point. I also just picked up a Hakko 703B. This station features 2 soldering irons and a desoldering iron. Not sure what I'm going to do with it yet, but if I keep it I'd probably swap out one of the irons for a set of hot tweezers. I'd be willing to sell you either one (prefer to sell the hakko honestly, just because I have a nice hakko soldering station already) for a reasonably good price sans whatever shipping would be.

    #14 2 years ago

    I go full ghetto, and I likley do an above average amount of board work:

    1. Cheap-assed pump
    2. Scrap wire for braid
    3. Solder paste

    I've gotten really good at this mix and can desolder quickly and efficiently.

    #15 2 years ago

    That Aoyue 8800 looks interesting and it is at my price point. Is there a problem with the Hakko 301 and the 100v that it seems to be working on. I am in the United States.

    #16 2 years ago
    Quoted from The_Great_Man:

    That Aoyue 8800 looks interesting and it is at my price point

    Make sure you clean the old solder out if you get this one, after every use. It clogs up relatively quickly. Works pretty good otherwise.

    I wouldn't use it for your .156 connections on your boards you're trying to fix though, the vacuum solder pump you cock and push with a regular iron works a lot better for that. I know you've already added some solder to it that helps to desolder as well.

    #17 2 years ago

    Thanks slochar. I actually have someone coming over who has real desoldering equipment to help on my sloppy solder work. When you say "vacuum solder pump" - Do you mean something like the Vampire Solder Sucker? I use a Hakko FX 888D soldering iron.

    #18 2 years ago

    Yes, like the pic above. They work surprisingly well. Desoldering braid works very well, too.

    #19 2 years ago

    I am not good with the desoldering braid. All I seem to do is smear and spread the solder on the board and not remove it.

    #20 2 years ago

    I have a hakko and it's good of course. But honestly, a cheap solder sucker is quicker and works...even better.

    #21 2 years ago

    I just feel like the power gun remover has to be better. But I have been wrong before.

    #22 2 years ago
    Quoted from The_Great_Man:

    I am not good with the desoldering braid. All I seem to do is smear and spread the solder on the board and not remove it.

    Add some lead based solder w/rosin to the solder joint. Even a little flux on the braid helps. I've used some wicks that were just absolutely terrible, didn't wick at all. Most of the brands I buy are fine (I think they have flux in it).

    I usually use the wick unless I'm removing IC's or connectors, then it's the desoldering gun.

    #23 2 years ago

    Sometimes I wish I could just buy the best and get it over with but that is not me. Which is probably why I bought 5 - $150 circular saws before I bought the $1400 Festool and 5 - $100 blenders before I bought the $1200 Blendtec Professional.

    #24 2 years ago
    Quoted from The_Great_Man:

    Sometimes I wish I could just buy the best and get it over with but that is not me. Which is probably why I bought 5 - $150 circular saws before I bought the $1400 Festool and 5 - $100 blenders before I bought the $1200 Blendtec Professional.

    LOL, I do the same thing. Buy the cheapest, then up it a bit, maybe another a bit better, then repeat as needed...then just buy what I should have bought to begin with in the first place. Ends up costing a lot in the end, at times.

    I should add, my BlackJack desoldering gun I bought thru circuit specialists.com for ~$100 (now discontinued, replaced w/a newer model) really has worked great, no issues whatsoever and would buy again.

    #25 2 years ago

    Hakko is the way.

    You wont go back.

    #26 2 years ago

    VEVOR S-993A Electric Desoldering Gun 100W temperature controlled. US $99.11. Ships from USA. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003020680007.html

    This might be the new budget option. Would want more sizes of tips right away, and wonder how good or bad the suction is compared to Hakko or the AOYUE 8800. Also available on ebay $113 ebay.com link: itm

    Recall from a previous thread somebody took the ECG rubber bulb desoldering iron and replaced the bulb with a hose to a foot switch operated vacuum pump.

    #27 2 years ago

    Look for a brand called Aouyie. It uses most Hakko parts but costs much less.

    Myself and many other techs use this brand.

    #28 2 years ago
    Quoted from Biffbar:

    VEVOR S-993A Electric Desoldering Gun 100W temperature controlled. US $99.11. Ships from USA. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003020680007.html
    This might be the new budget option. Would want more sizes of tips right away, and wonder how good or bad the suction is compared to Hakko or the AOYUE 8800. Also available on ebay $113 ebay.com link: itm
    Recall from a previous thread somebody took the ECG rubber bulb desoldering iron and replaced the bulb with a hose to a foot switch operated vacuum pump.

    Its coming up for me on amazon too for $117. $10 off coupon on the page brings it down to $107. Another 5% back if you're using an amazon visa or credit line brings it down to $101.

    Most likely the same seller shipping from the same warehouse but easier to get a resolution through amazon than aliexpress if there's a problem.

    #29 2 years ago

    Just watched a real person desolder and solder female connectors. She did something in 5 minutes that would have taken me 3 hours. And she desoldered and soldered a new socket in 2 minutes. Very impressive to watch - Nice equipment. i need a soldering head with a hole in it for my Hakko - Anyone know which one I should buy? And I need a real powerful desoldering sucker. She looked at some of my desoldering and I think her exact quote was "What are you doing?"....She did say it with a little chuckle.

    #30 2 years ago

    Here is a totally off topic story that explains why I love young people. Many years ago I owned a VW GTI that I loved but wanted to upgrade . So I went to look at a Saab Turbo...To myself "What are you doing - Do it right - Go get a BMW." Off I go to look at BMW's..."What are you doing - Do it right - Get a Mercedes." Off I go to look at Mercedes'..."What are you doing - Just get the best." Next day I bought a Porsche. I miss that me. Although this old me does have a one year old reservation for a CyberTruck so there is still hope.

    #31 2 years ago
    Quoted from The_Great_Man:

    Here is a totally off topic story that explains why I love young people. Many years ago I owned a VW GTI that I loved but wanted to upgrade . So I went to look at a Saab Turbo...To myself "What are you doing - Do it right - Go get a BMW." Off I go to look at BMW's..."What are you doing - Do it right - Get a Mercedes." Off I go to look at Mercedes'..."What are you doing - Just get the best." Next day I bought a Porsche. I miss that me. Although this old me does have a one year old reservation for a CyberTruck so there is still hope.

    You made the right choice in this scenario. Second best choice would be to stick with the GTI lol. Man I miss my VW R32, especially seeing the money they bring in these days!

    #32 2 years ago

    I wish I had my 1983 VW GTI back.....Bought it right off the showroom floor as soon as it came in. Most fun car I ever drove.....Until I convinced my wife that for the environment she really needed to buy her Tesla Model S of course.

    #33 2 years ago

    BTW - What the woman who I saw soldering was using was a tool that does both soldering and desoldering. Now that is a tool that everyone who does any work on pinballs needs. A little gun tool that has a tip with a hole on the end that does everything.

    #34 2 years ago

    The pace I mentioned had two ports.
    One for desoldering and the other for solder or other tips.

    I have mine fitted with a thru hole desolderer. And alternate the other with soldering tip for rework wire bonding and a tweezer tip for removing smt parts

    2 months later
    #36 2 years ago

    To end this Topic - I finally ended up purchasing this desoldering station. The Pro'sKit SS-331 LCD Desoldering Station. Paid just about $150.00 with slow shipping. It seems to work pretty good.

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