TSPP
LOTR
STTNG
WOZ

These are all great games with lots to do and longer ball times. I would add Hobbit to the list as well.

I concur with LOTR. I’d also say generally any JJP game.

JP2... if we weren’t in a pandemic I’d say drive 20 mins and come over to play it

Would you clarify what you mean by a “deep” pin.

Examples:

1) Long playing games with many tasks to accomplish that take multiple attempts to finish.

WPT is an excellent example.

2) Games with multiple goals that can “help you along the way “ to a larger goal /wizard mode

AC/DC does this

3) Mode based games.

Williams IJ, now make every switch on the pf...

4) Total risk/reward based rule sets

TWD

What kind of a game are you really looking for?

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Everyone always says TSPP and LOTR but those aren’t easily available.

Watch some of the recent DeadFlip streams of JP2, EHOH, and BM66. Those are some super deep modern games that you can get right now.

LOTR is always mentioned in these threads. Rightfully so. It is an amazing game. But it’s not because Valinor is out there and you’ll never see it. It’s because the modes and mini wizard modes you do see are fantastic.

What you’re probably looking for is a game that you’re not going to finish easily, and has a bunch of different stuff to do. Fortunately, most games made in the last 10 years fit that description.

I find IMDN and DI to be perfect depth games. DI for longer play, IMDN for shorter.

JJP POTC
Hobbit (SUPER deep)
Elvira HOH
Houdini

Surprised not to see WOZ on here, although I’ve never “clicked” with it. Some may say the same about Houdini, but most of those
people who bitch about it have never played it. Recent code is incredibly varied and fun

Deadpool maybe?

Stern Star Wars kinda feels like a Video Game to me when I play it. Lot's of story clips and depth.

Bm66 seems like a storyline to me...each villain goes along a set of episodes from the show, so lots of depth that way.

I have played DI numerous times. Is it really that much deeper than iron Maiden? I am not a high level player it must be deeper than I thought. I own Maiden and is is very deep and complex with always a lot going on.

The. Hobbit. /thread

does this EXACT thing.

Again, I think JP2 is what you’re looking for. It has a map on the play field and on the screen that you navigate as you advance the game. You hit a truck to change directions on the map. It’s like a pinball/board game/video game. It also has some of the best animations out there, very ps4 like. Good luck.

This pretty much sums it up......all within the production years you are looking for

Hobbit is a mix between a video game a movie and a pinball machine. Deepest game out there

I wasn’t going to suggest Iron Maiden, but this description makes me think it’s a good fit. Trying to get 10 Tomb Treasures is the big overarching thing for the ultimate wizard mode, but there are also several other areas of the game that have their own arcs: playing all the modes, completing the power features, and getting Eddie Cards.

All of those things are tasks that roll up into bigger awards and mini-wizard modes.

I don’t think Deadpool is even in the same league as IMDN in terms of that stuff.

Batman 66 seems pretty deep...but maybe a better description is extremely wide with very deep and nuanced strategies within that width?

There are some awesome answers here. Anything JJP puts out is a given. TSPP and LOTR are clearly good answers. Newer sterns like JP2, deadpool, and IM fit the bill.

Houdini, ACNC, and Oktoberfest are also really nice options.

I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but The Shadow is amazing.

Great games with depth are often found in the pinside top 100 (especially higher on the list)

Deep games are exactly what I prefer. A machine that is both challenging w/ much to do is ideal for longevity in a home environment.

Though there have been several deep titles already mentioned, Star Trek & Stranger Things also fit this description. Two very entertaining machines that will definitely keep you busy for a while.

Stern Star Wars. Playing through all the planets while needing to complete 5-6 tasks to make the final wizard mode.

Older B/W games
TZ
STTNG
IJ
SHADOW
I500

JJP
Hobbit
WOZ
Pirates

“Older Sterns”
RBION
TSPP
LOTR

Newer Sterns
GOT
Star Wars
EHOH
JP
AC/DC
TWD

BM66 is the one pin I feel has longer ball times and has deep code to keep you interested for home use. Heaps to do with lots of villains and just so much fun.

One other component to your search you may want to consider is also the "breadth" of the pins rules/features. Meaning: how many meaningful things are available to attempt at any given time, which adds a lot of repeat play because of the myriad of combinations of stacks, sequences, and approaches you can take to the game.

I find that rulesets from Keefer and Lyman, as well as the designs/rulesets from Elwin have fantastic combinations of depth and breadth.
Dwight's rulesets also usually have great depth (Munsters excluded), and more recently, added variety from player-selectable path/character, but they don't have quite as much breadth as Keefer/Elwin/Lyman.

Shadow is fun and has a lot of features in it, I like switching the diverters on the ramps and top level