I Just don’t think it’s everyone’s cup of tea. It’s really an unorthodox ruleset, but I think it’s one of the best rulesets in pinball and an awesome game for home use. A lot of the vocal minority hate on it because it doesn’t have dolls in it. I’ve heard it’s not popular in the competitive scene as well, don’t know if that’s true or not but this game is FUN in a home use environment and is a fun casual multiplayer game (where competition isn’t life or death) as games are quick and it’s FUN to watch people do good on this table.

That said, to answer a couple of the complaints on the game. Video Mode - yes, it can be repetitious if you play as Han, or even Leia. But, when I had this game mastered, playing as Luke, I would hardly ever see the video mode. Maybe once in 5games; and i lowered the timer all the way to minimum so that helped. The other complaint about Light saber duel...it is what it is; it’s a bad ass mode and you need to do it to get to the emperor; and it fits the theme integration. But, Sometimes I would have fun with it and anticipate that I had LSD lit coming out of a multiball and be able to start a mode before LSD had a chance to light.

RAI -
Curious why you ended up going premium over the pro? I never liked the premium on location, and while I didn’t understand the rules at the time, I always had fun on the pro. Then, after owning the pro for a year or more, i started playing an LE on location and loved it. Not enough to sell my pro and upgrade to a premium, however, now that i say that, I did sell my pro nearly a year ago and do contemplate buying SW back and going with the SW premium comic instead of a pro. But, there’s so many games out there now that I haven’t played that every time i think about buying an SW premium, I get drawn to other shiny things lol. Rough world we live in

This guy has it right. That is just some supremely deep AND great code.

Ehoh. Easily approachable, very clear what to hit, very deep and wide rules.

BM66 wins hands down for me. EHOH is catching up though.....hey i'm a Lyman fan

I think that’s the case for most pins that are home use. After a while, any call out no matter how great loses its luster after a bit. With EHoH, just hit both flipper buttons when the clips come on and you will skip right past them. Maybe you can do that with other pins as well.

For me it’s Jurassic Park. It’s approachable by casual players who can just go for things like T Rex modes or raptor multiball but has depth to the point I don’t think I will ever see everything in one game. Some games I try to get through the paddocks others I concentrate on multiballs, others I try just for score or to get to a mini wizard mode.
After watching some streams of Avengers Infinity Quest I feel like that one could be as good but would need to play and watch the code develop it to find out.
I think I’ve played all the Spike 2 games a good amount except EHOH, haven’t played that one or really watched much video so I can’t speak to it but I hear good things.

BM66 would be my pick. For this pin you need to spend time on it with its layout but its depth is tremendous. So many ways to attack it. I was pretty horrible at it when first playing it but it took some time to get used too. SW would be a close second with its crazy multiplier factor. Both really great on theme integration.

I've been enjoying all the SW love in this thread. I really like the game. You just mentioned both of Pinsides SW triggers though. 'Math chess' and lack of dolls! Aka you ruined my childhood Gary! /ShakeFist
You may have just unleashed the Kraken.

SW right shots can be a hard shot. Ramp, orbit, scoop. Not a big fan of Yoda at the end of ball. But the rest of the code is pretty fun.

The ramp isn't too bad, especially from a backhand. I love that backhand...one of my all time favorites. Scoop is pretty tough, and mine still gives the occasional bounce-out which doesn't help. That right orbit though...damn that's a tough shot. Glad to hear it's not just me. Usually Steve Ritchie orbits are easy and satisfying to nail, but this one is just nasty.

I agree a little more variety in the end of ball animations would be great. Would love to see more Jabba...and maybe Salacious Crumb laughing at me when I drain!

Death star is the only tough shot for me. The saucer might but j never aim for it.

I watched a stream of the new code update on Elvira, and it has firmly gone to the top of the list in my opinion.

Lyman Sheats is known for great rules. But the use of assets has been incredible on Batman 66 and now Elvira HOH. The trailer feature at the end of the game? That's something that only comes about because Lyman locked himself in a room with a stack of DVDs of terrible movies, meticulously finding a couple good seconds here and there. The music is also among Stern's best.

I'm saving money and considering what to cut loose to buy one next year.

EHOH owner, can confirm it is one of the best in YEARS. Theme integration is off the charts, shoots incredibly smooth, but is still a wicked challenge somehow. Also is packed with mechs!

Back in post#4 I stated JP and EHOH. Well after 1.0 drop I'd now like to say EHOH then JP with AIQ starting to rise up as well..

JP's coding is simply amazing. I recently watched Elwin on Deadflip review the ruleset just to catch up on some of the rules I've forgotten......he had mentioned a potential 4th control room mode that I don't believe is in the game as of the last release. Hopefully an update is in our immediate future to add this and other pieces he intended.

Keith Elwin’s Trio (AIQ, JP, IM), BM66, and EHOH all have amazing code.

I'm not sure if it was what he was referring to (I haven't watched that stream recently), but there are 5 total control room modes. Finishing the 3 initial ones unlocks "Secure Control Room" mini-wizard mode, and that in turn unlocks "Invalid Frenzy".

About 42 minutes into the video, Keith starts talking about the control room modes. He then talks about T-rex chase and then goes back to explaining control room. 45 minutes in he talks about the 4th mode (15 tower hits) that wasn't in the code as of the recording......it did not sound like Keith was referring to a mini wizard mode

This was a great walkthrough video

Interesting. 15 tower hits is one of the four ways to qualify control room modes, and you have to use the fourth qualification method (whichever one you didn't use already) for Invalid Frenzy, so that could be what he meant. And Invalid might not have been in at that time. My best guess is that is what he was talking about, but who knows. Maybe there was initially something else planned.

Good point, I’m not good enough of a player to get to four so I’ll prob never know

Batman 66 easy

And AIQ.The game plays like a comic book come to life