(Topic ID: 261017)

Best Classic Stern Game, for Gameplay


By Jr99svt

11 months ago



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“Pick Three of you favorite Playing Games”

  • Catacomb 9 votes
    3%
  • Nine Ball 29 votes
    9%
  • Quicksilver 44 votes
    14%
  • Meteor 38 votes
    12%
  • Dragonfist 6 votes
    2%
  • Viper 2 votes
    1%
  • Ali 8 votes
    2%
  • Nugent 2 votes
    1%
  • Pinball 3 votes
    1%
  • Freefall 3 votes
    1%
  • Stargazer 30 votes
    9%
  • Flight 2000 18 votes
    6%
  • Stars 28 votes
    9%
  • Orbitor 1 2 votes
    1%
  • Lightning 4 votes
    1%
  • Split Second 3 votes
    1%
  • Seawitch 36 votes
    11%
  • Cheetah 6 votes
    2%
  • Galaxy 3 votes
    1%
  • Big Game 17 votes
    5%
  • Wild Fyre 0 votes
  • Galaxy 4 votes
    1%
  • Iron Maiden 6 votes
    2%
  • Magic 3 votes
    1%
  • Trident 3 votes
    1%
  • Dracula 4 votes
    1%
  • Hot Hand 1 vote
  • Lectronamo 2 votes
    1%
  • Stingray 3 votes
    1%
  • Magic 4 votes
    1%

(Multiple choice - 321 votes by 148 Pinsiders)

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#1 11 months ago

I saw some comparing of Classic Stern Games in a for sale thread, wanted to know what the masses think the best playing Classic Stern Game is. Not the best art, or theme, Sounds, or overall, what is the the best Playing game. For me, its Catacomb, Quicksilver and Nine ball. I don't think most of the other Sterns of that era are on the same level as those 3.

#2 11 months ago

I’d go with

Stars
Seawitch
Meteor
Nineball

#3 11 months ago

For straight gameplay
Quicksilver then Meteor

#4 11 months ago

I haven't quite played all of them, but I have to put meteor and seawitch up there.

#5 11 months ago

The surprisingly great one is Freefall. Rarely hear about it, but the one I play most often. Rules, shots, and sound really well done, very challenging game.

#6 11 months ago
Quoted from catacomb:

The surprisingly great one is Freefall. Rarely hear about it, but the one I play most often. Rules, shots, and sound really well done, very challenging game.

I’ve never had the pleasure of playing one. Hopefully someone will bring one to TFP this year so I can give it a try?

#7 11 months ago

Stars

#8 11 months ago
Quoted from MeNaCeFiRe:

I’ve never had the pleasure of playing one. Hopefully someone will bring one to TFP this year so I can give it a try?

Check out the tpf 2020 thread, there is an entire lineup of classic Stern machines that will be there

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#10 11 months ago

Dracula

#11 11 months ago

Quicksilver, Meteor, Ali, Seawitch.

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#12 11 months ago
Quoted from MeNaCeFiRe:

I’ve never had the pleasure of playing one. Hopefully someone will bring one to TFP this year so I can give it a try?

A Freefall is being prepped to be there. I think it will be done in time.

#13 11 months ago

Man Free Fall just does nothing for me.
Another one I'm trying to put more time on.

#14 11 months ago

You’ve got Magic and Galaxy on the list twice, they must be double the player!

#15 11 months ago

It has a lot more going on than it seems. Really hard to get multi-ball (8 letters plus locks). The 3 bank plays tic-tac-toe to raise the value of the side target from 5K - 200K. Two different order rules on the left bank for EB and Special. And the spinner rotates between 100 and 5K per spin which really drives what you want to do. Make a bad shot and you're toast. Definitely worth some more plays.

Quoted from TheLaw:

Man Free Fall just does nothing for me.
Another one I'm trying to put more time on.

#16 11 months ago
Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

You’ve got Magic and Galaxy on the list twice, they must be double the player!

Ah dang it

#17 11 months ago

Buddy of mine owns a Stingray, its not the best of rh3e classic era, but its amazingly fun.

Itll be in my line up soon

#18 11 months ago
Quoted from Stones:

Buddy of mine owns a Stingray, its not the best of rh3e classic era, but its amazingly fun.
Itll be in my line up soon

Fun fact, Stingray and Pinball share the same ROM.

I gave a Pinball to my parents, pretty fun game. Magic is still my favorite though. I know I'm biased though, it was my first game.

#19 11 months ago
Quoted from catacomb:

It has a lot more going on than it seems...

Awesome thanks for the info!

Thats the whole rub with classic Stern, the wacky rules are why we love them, but since they aren't intuitive you can miss something and leave a bad impression. That's why I try to never completely count a game out.

Other than Viper.

#20 11 months ago

the rare ones have less love cuz most people have not played them (dragon fist, etc).
meteor is the highest produced game on your list so of course it will get high votes.
quicksilver i have a feeling people vote for to jump on the price bandwagon.
its not that fun.
light a spinner from either in lane, shoot corresponding spinner.
that's it.
big game is prob the best rule game on the list, but once again, prob not many have played it.

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#21 11 months ago
Quoted from silver_spinner:

the rare ones have less love cuz most people have not played them (dragon fist, etc).
meteor is the highest produced game on your list so of course it will get high votes.
quicksilver i have a feeling people vote for to jump on the price bandwagon.
its not that fun.
light a spinner from either in lane, shoot corresponding spinner.
that's it.
big game is prob the best rule game on the list, but once again, prob not many have played it.

WAIIITTT a second. Are you saying Quicksilver is Grand Prix 2.0??

#22 11 months ago

These are the 4 I currently own.

Have owned previously: Stingray, Lightning, Freefall, Catacomb, Meteor, Split Second, Lectranamo, Cheetah, Big Game, Trident, and Seawitch.

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#23 11 months ago
Quoted from terrapinmark:

These are the 4 I currently own.
Have owned previously: Stingray, Lightning, Freefall, Catacomb, Meteor, Split Second, Lectranamo, Cheetah, Big Game, Trident, and Seawitch.[quoted image][quoted image]

Nice line up! Are these your favorite out of the Stern Classics you have owned?

#24 11 months ago
Quoted from Stones:

Nice line up! Are these your favorite out of the Stern Classics you have owned?

Thanks Stones!! Close. I really miss Meteor, Big Game, and Seawitch. Actually my favorite at the moment is Quicksilver! Someone mentioned all that you shoot for is the lit spinner. That couldn't be farther from the truth. The multiplier targets are extremely important. Spelling Quicksilver and getting 5X bonus results in a pretty cool light and sound show. Sweeping the targets in the center of the Playfield are also rewarding (spells a quicksilver letter)

#25 11 months ago
Quoted from terrapinmark:

Thanks Stones!! Close. I really miss Meteor, Big Game, and Seawitch. Actually my favorite at the moment is Quicksilver! Someone mentioned all that you shoot for is the lit spinner. That couldn't be farther from the truth. The multiplier targets are extremely important. Spelling Quicksilver and getting 5X bonus results in a pretty cool light and sound show. Sweeping the targets in the center of the Playfield are also rewarding (spells a quicksilver letter)

Very cool.....!

#26 11 months ago
Quoted from terrapinmark:

Thanks Stones!! Close. I really miss Meteor, Big Game, and Seawitch. Actually my favorite at the moment is Quicksilver! Someone mentioned all that you shoot for is the lit spinner. That couldn't be farther from the truth. The multiplier targets are extremely important. Spelling Quicksilver and getting 5X bonus results in a pretty cool light and sound show. Sweeping the targets in the center of the Playfield are also rewarding (spells a quicksilver letter)

Yes, spelling "Quicksilver" is much more lucrative than just shooting spinners, and more fun too. Maxing out the bonus gives you one of the best sounding and looking bonus meltdowns out there.

#27 11 months ago

I also like freefall, the bonus rules are fairly insane

5 months later
#28 5 months ago

It is interesting that quicksilver is now being rumored as the new base for Stern's next pin (Queen)

#29 5 months ago

I’ve never played a Quicksilver, so if it’s a retheme that would work for me. At least I’d be able to play it in some form. What makes this poll tough, is that I have to believe there are very few people that have played most of the pins in the poll. I’m not saying they aren’t the right answers, but Meteor, Quicksilver and Seawitch are the easy answers. I’d love to see the same poll but with the “big hitters” not included. Kind of the best of the rest.

#30 5 months ago

Out of the classic Sterns I've played, in descending order

Stars - I think it's pure pinball and elegantly simple
Meteor - Best spinner rip game?
Cheetah - if it wasn't for the art and the stock software with unlimited bonus collects, I think this would be way more in demand. So many good shots.
Flight 2000 - I love the spinner rule, the 3 bank drops, and giant bonus x to build up. Dinged for how much space the multiball takes up
Big Game - Weirdly addicting
Seawitch - I didn't love this as much as others (I really like The Beatles though)
Free Fall - Love the art and goofy angles
Magic - Meh
Lightning - Super meh

Really want to play an Ali and a Quicksilver. I'd like to see what sort of minor improvements they could make to Quicksilver like Seawitch and The Beatles.

#31 5 months ago
Quoted from Krupps4:

What makes this poll tough, is that I have to believe there are very few people that have played most of the pins in the poll. I’m not saying they aren’t the right answers, but Meteor, Quicksilver and Seawitch are the easy answers....

I agree I think there are some rarer ones that do get missed by people. The fact people are putting Seawitch above a lot of other ones is the only proof I need

#32 5 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

I agree I think there are some rarer ones that do get missed by people. The fact people are putting Seawitch above a lot of other ones is the only proof I need

What are some of the rarer ones you would put ahead of Seawitch? I’d love to hear your thoughts.

#33 5 months ago
Quoted from Krupps4:

What are some of the rarer ones you would put ahead of Seawitch? I’d love to hear your thoughts.

Dragonfist I never played until a year or 2 ago. Stargazers were already thin and getting thinner. Not major rare but I think Big Game & Cheetah are obviously way above Seawitch.
People like what they like...but someone (2!) clicked on Viper and submitted it

#34 5 months ago

Catacomb

Big Game

Dragonfist

Nine Ball

and then Seawitch.

#35 5 months ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

Catacomb
Big Game
Dragonfist
Nine Ball
and then Seawitch.

Are there any Stern Electronics pins more rare than Dragonfist? 302 produced is a really low number. I ask the question knowing I could take the time to look them all up on my own.

#36 5 months ago
Quoted from Krupps4:

Are there any Stern Electronics pins more rare than Dragonfist? 302 produced is a really low number. I ask the question knowing I could take the time to look them all up on my own.

Cue. There 6 made of Cue.

#37 5 months ago

I know that no one would agree but i really liked Trident. Owned it for nearly 10 years

#38 5 months ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

Cue. There 6 made of Cue.

I’m assuming those were just prototypes?

#39 5 months ago
Quoted from Krupps4:

I’m assuming those were just prototypes?

Only game operators asked Stern to take back it was such a turd! I got to play it at The Sanctum. It’s very weird but kinda cool.

Also what’s the deal not a soul has mentioned Split Second?!

#40 5 months ago
Quoted from Jr99svt:Not the best art, or theme, Sounds, or overall, what is the the best Playing game.

Lots of good opinions provided here. . . I think I'll add mine.

I've played most of the Classic Sterns and trying to decide which one is the "best playing" is like trying to decide which of the tractors I've restored is the "best driving." Each one is unique, but some have more appeal than others.

I don't own Quicksilver, Big Game, or Stargazer but have played all a lot and understand the appeal. I would add each one to the collection if the opportunity presented at the right price. That being said I'm not on the hunt for them at top dollar.

I've owned Meteor, Flight 2000, and Galaxy -- all good/great games but ended up selling as I could not connect to the space theme. I rank Meteor at the top of those three due to the spinner shot alone.

Stars is/was another good game in the collection but the chimes did not win me over. I realize that is what a lot of people like about that game. Mine did not play very fast -- I could not get attached to it.

Lightning is definitely different. It has a Classic Stern feel but is a bit more clunky to play until you master the shots to the upper playfield. When you do ripping the spinner before hitting the ramp is almost as satisfying as Meteor. Almost.

I keep a beat Seawitch in my garage to play in between burger flips while cooking out in the summer, or to play just about any other time too. It keeps me content with plenty of drop targets to hit and the loop shot is definitely unique. I might enjoy it more if everything was dialed in perfectly -- I don't get the best spinner hits on this game. Takes some of the fun away.

Nine Ball has been a keeper for me ever since I played my first game on it. Even with a wide open playfield there is still a lot you need to be accurate for. . . and that floating spinner is just cool. The sounds/visual of the resetting drop target bank add a bit to the gameplay experience for me.

I also fell for Cheetah the first time I played one. So much so that I persuaded the games owner to sell it to me. Again a bit of a wide open playfield but a lot of drop targets and spinners (three!) to shoot for. The shot from the lower left flipper to the upper right spinner never disappoints -- neither does the left alley/bonus collect shot. I have the prototype sound roms in mine and while quirky the electronic effects work for me.

More information than most people probably want, but I had a few extra minutes here at work.

#41 5 months ago
Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

Only game operators asked Stern to take back it was such a turd! I got to play it at The Sanctum. It’s very weird but kinda cool.
Also what’s the deal not a soul has mentioned Split Second?!

Because Split Second isn't particularly special, not a bad game, just an average game.

Best thing about Cue is that you can use the board set and game parts for other classic Sterns!

#42 5 months ago

Plenty of good games on these lists, many of these classic Sterns will keep you coming back again and again.

If you think about the difficult times facing all the pinball manufacturers in that era, it is easy to see all the game format changes as they competed with video games for quarters. Think about all the innovation introduced in 1980-81: Voice-late 1979, double level and triple level playfields, more widebody games, ball-walkers, and 7 digit scoring come to mind. Even with all this new stuff listed above, players were being lost to video, and then the recession hit in 1982 essentially ending the party for a time anyway.

Stern seemed to spend more time on developing rulesets and getting the most out of the traditional single level playfield. Their double level playfield games are not usually listed on any top gameplay lists, yet their simpler games tend to be their best games.

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#43 3 months ago
Quoted from BrianBannon:

Plenty of good games on these lists, many of these classic Sterns will keep you coming back again and again.

Very true!.... it doesn't surprise me how popular some of these games have become!

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