I was at both of these shows last year. Both were better than most other shows last year IMO. Ohio had a few machines on the floor for sale, but no auction last year. Some decent deals--nothing I am kicking myself for not buying though. Lines were 5-6 deep to play machines at peak times. Pinball at the Zoo had a few machines for sale on the floor and an auction Saturday morning. Still kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on some of the auction and floor games at PATZ that were good deals. Lines to play games were much shorter.