Best anti-glare glass?


By Ckykedworld

2 years ago


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    #51 2 years ago
    Quoted from Mr68:

    I like CaptainNeo and respect his opinion. I consider him a friend even though we've never met. But he's become a friendly pet peeve with me regarding this glass. Here's some perspective.
    Lets say someone has a beat to shit playfield in an otherwise perfect machine. That person gets quotes for a playfield restoration in the $700, $800, $1000 range.
    He says, no way, that's too expensive and I'll play the game as is. - But.... if you can restore the playfield for $60 I'll send you my entire collection.
    Neo cannot justify the cost of this glass for himself and I understand that. For me, as a customer testing this glass for several years now, I can and do justify the cost and enthusiastically endorse it.

    I understand that, but here's the thing. If a restoration costs such and such..it does what it's suppose to, and does what was expected for the price. Anti glare glass does not. You were there when it was being first invented. You remember the promises they made. If it didn't live up to it's potential, the price should be adjusted accordingly. Agreed?

    That's the reason, I got upset with PDI glass. They were the first and released it with false promises, that were underdelivering. I just tell people, don't get your hopes up to high, so you are not disapppointed expecting full glare reduction, which it does not do. That's my beef with antiglare glass.

    #52 2 years ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    I understand that, but here's the thing. If a restoration costs such and such..it does what it's suppose to, and does what was expected for the price. Anti glare glass does not. You were there when it was being first invented. You remember the promises they made. If it didn't live up to it's potential, the price should be adjusted accordingly. Agreed?
    That's the reason, I got upset with PDI glass. They were the first and released it with false promises, that were underdelivering. I just tell people, don't get your hopes up to high, so you are not disapppointed expecting full glare reduction, which it does not do. That's my beef with antiglare glass.

    Advertising is almost always stretches the truth. The people still buying anti-glare glass are happy with what they are getting. It does indeed look like there is no glass, but yes you are right there is still glare.

    Personally, I am not sure I'd buy it if it was 60. Not a matter of money, but preference. The glare is part of the experience and part of the challenge. What I do love anti-glare glass is when you see a game filmed because it certainly helps.

    #53 2 years ago

    i dont' mind glare either, unless it's where the DMD is. that whole back section is almost not visible. But that's where Kims glare guards work awesome. fixes the problem. For the backglasses, I remove all but 6 or 7 bulbs, which reduces glare a lot. For florescent tube games, I replace them with LED panels with adjustable brightness, so I can reduce it.

    #54 2 years ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    it didn't live up to it's potential

    Neo, you were expecting perfection and I get that. But the PDI glass so greatly reduces the glare that it does live up to its potential in my opinion.

    Look, my initial test of the glass was under extreme conditions. Dark basement, at night, all lights shut off and door closed at top of stairs. Total darkness except for a single test machine.

    Yes, I found some DMD glare and I was disappointed. But it was significantly reduced glare and I wasn't playing a game. I was only standing there intentionally searching for it. Then I turned on the game next to it to compare machines and what a dramatic difference between the two.

    A second game was turned on with the test machine in the middle. Again the results were impressive from machine to machine. But this time I noticed the glare on the test machine seemed reduced. It occurred to me that the ambient light helped. So I turned on my entire collection along with the normal game room lighting. (Corner lamps, nothing over head)

    Under these normal circumstances that glare was so greatly reduced I had to hunt for. - It was at this point that I first noticed the illusion of no glass.

    FYI: My upstairs game room during the day showed the glass functioning even better. Don't ask me why.

    So yeah, its not 100% if you want to use a microscope. But I have tested every glass out there and PDI is a home run especially in comparison to the standard glass that you're so fond of. *I'm happy for you. *

    And if cost wasn't a consideration you would replace every piece in your collection with PDI, wouldn't you.
    And that's what it gets down to between you and I. I see the value in this glass and you don't.

    So we can agree to disagree, you knucklehead.

    #55 2 years ago

    Agreed.

    really hard to think anything positive on this, when it costs nearly as much as a full game. Last 3 games I bought were only $400 each. When this is $100 less than a fully functional good condition game, I expect miracles.

    and in bright rooms, it does make a better difference, on cutting down room lighting. So if you have games in say..your living room. it's going to be a much more noticeable improvement.

    #56 2 years ago

    I;m in the same boat with the PDI glass as all of you!! Got 4 sheets in Dec.for a discount,and still waiting!!

    #57 2 years ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    Last 3 games I bought were only $400 each.

    Well there's your problem.

    #58 2 years ago

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pdi-glass-not-shipping

    Quoted from hawkmoon:

    I;m in the same boat with the PDI glass as all of you!! Got 4 sheets in Dec.for a discount,and still waiting!!

    Hawkmoon I'm in that boat with you.just have to wait a bit more if you want the best.

    #59 2 years ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    Last 3 games I bought were only $400 each

    Last game I bought was $400 and it was an Xbox bundle with fallout 4.

    #60 2 years ago

    TAF has a really bright backglass. PDI glass will not fix that too well or reflection of lights off the backglass and onto the playfield. I would start with replacing the backbox bulbs with retro LEDs (because they are not as bright as the original bulbs) and only fill half or less of the light sockets.

    Is that a fluorescent light fixture - the rectangular reflection in the picture? If so, that needs to go! Once again PDI might help but it will not be able to work any miracles on that...

    #61 2 years ago
    Quoted from Mr68:

    Well there's your problem.

    when when you get nice condition working playing games that are fun for $400, how can you say no?

    #62 2 years ago

    I'm w you Mr68....I see the difference, very noticeable to me, and PDI IS worth the money if your in modland. Definitely better than invisiglass ( have a sheet of that too)....

    Don't know CaptainNeo, but believe this thread has been hashed several times w the same guys on the same sides.

    This will always be one of those " agree to disagree" threads. To the Op....buy the PDI....you WILL see a difference....end of story......

    #63 2 years ago

    that's true, and I dont think either of our sides will ever change, until the glass changes. Doesn't matter to me. I'll keep using my $300's to buy full games, instead of glass. Unless it improves.

    #64 2 years ago
    Quoted from Trekkie1978:

    Can you elaborate on your likes/dislikes between the 2?

    Yes, I will go into detail a little later. It is pretty much everything from packaging to performance.

    Funny thing is I would never have learned I liked PDI better until I had to buy a sheet for my safe cracker since JJP did not make a sheet to fit that game, I was blown away by it and am only buying PDI moving forward (I had six or seven sheets of Invisiglass).

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