Quoted from Kerry_Richard:
Probably in cars and women as well.
maybe. i drive a plum crazy purple dodge challenger srt8. certainly not for everyone.
well hell, if we are counting early WPC games, Funhouse wins by a mile. even though there's no DMD, i think there's a pretty wide gap between System 11 games and the alphanumeric WPCs (BOP / Funhouse).
OP said "alphanumeric" not just Sys 11. He's already listed FH as a tittle he already owns.
i have a cyclone a bad cats and bride at first i did not care for any of them when i got them ,but once you start playing them its hard to stop!
In order of my preference:
...and I currently have a strained relationship with an F-14 which I bought semi-working many years ago. I have had it almost completely disassembled for almost as many years. It now has its playfield inserts removed, waiting for me to muster up the courage to continue. I've never done that kind of playfield restoration before, so I'm hesitant to do anything at all for fear of doing a bad job. No wonder this one takes years for me...
I believe that to be the case. I like the Oursler/Python games personally. We play a ton of Hurricane at my house as well and it gets no love either. I think their system 11s are not much different. Lots of repetitive ramps. I guess I could see if you have a 1-2 pin collection it would get old really fast.
Guys, it is only pinball
I expect the conversation to drift
I've seen party zone mentioned :p
I don't really think there are any system 11 dogs. These games all went through a pretty rigorous test phase before being released to production. I don't think any of these games were phoned in with photoshopped licensed art and a variation on a previous design.. unlike most of the recent offerings.
Don't discount Big Guns because it lacks flow; It's designed as an 'aiming' game , like Capt. Card (http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=433&picno=411). It modernizes things by making every 3rd shot exciting (load the cannons, shoot the bagatelle, trolls!), times out everything, and uses a ridiculously short 'ball search' feature to keep you from holding balls too long. It almost requires too much skill to have fun.
Police force was fun too.
I've really never played a system 11 I didn't have fun with. It was such a great era of pinball. Same with some of the DE titles of that time.
Quoted from vid1900:
hahaha. good one vid. I thought the same thing. was awesome and fast and hard at first because it was my second game. not being able to utilize the ramps with your flippers eventually did the old fella in though. Light show was still killer in multiball though.
Haven't played a Sys 11 I haven't liked, though I haven't played BBBB, and their are a few others I haven't played.
BoP and FH, despite being WPC technically, are Alphanumeric games and very much in the vein of their Sys11 ascendants and I'd say are basically Sys 11s in WPC clothing.
There might be no other system with as many solid titles but going back to the early Bally SS -35 days, could play just about any of those pins for hours without complaint.
That's not the problem, the problem is the unlimited millions ramp. I shopped out a really nice PF a few years ago, and rolled the score (99M) on the third test game, and that's with yellow post rubbers on it. If you disable the center ramp made switch and kill the "take the highest score" feature (by setting requirement to 9 right ramps in a row to collect), the game becomes reasonable, but a bit boring. And there's still the Hot Sheet randomness.
PF is a beginner level game and there's nothing wrong with that
Collectors probably dislike the progressive jackpots on many of the System 11 pins, but I would imagine they did a good job of getting people to play the pins and earn money, which is what they were intended to do back in the day. Walking past that pin with the flashing maxed out jackpot just begs you to play it!
When I had my Taxi I set the minimum jackpot amount to 1 million. Getting multiple jackpots in a game sucked when the second one was worth half of the million shot and tougher to get.
Quoted from rotordave:
The Dr is possibly the coolest machine of all time! Sooo cool.
Classic Nordman/Freres game. Simple but addictive ruleset.
"You're a DUDE!"
I can understand it not being to people's tastes, but there is nothing objectively wrong with it in my opinion. Nordman and Freres nailed it. While not as technically advanced, the theme and art direction is better than half the Sterns and all the Segas.
I absolutely fell in love with a Taxi that had a CPR playfield and LEDs in it atThe Houston Arcade Expo. It has moved up the short list on games to own in the future.
I owned Road Kings....twice! Go ahead....you may laugh.... The colors and mad max art seems to turn many off, but its actually a pretty entertaining game given it was the first or second sys 11 game put out. The voice callouts and music are very catchy (You'll Be Back, Jack!). A couple of ramps, with one that raises and lowers. The right outlane is a frustrating drain monster. Fighting the Road Kings produces an impressive light show. Give it a chance.
I haven't found a worst sys 11 game yet.
Millionaire is WAY better than people give it credit for. The Chris Granner Sound is outstanding and it's fun to play. It's not very pretty, but it's vastly underrated. Even more fun if you add the beacon to the top! Road Kings is also very fun. System 11 games really outstanding, even some of the lesser titles you can't go wrong with. Fire! wasn't mentioned much either. Very Neat Game.
Agreed that BBBB is probably the least fun of the group.
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