10 years ago I kept having these stupid 'suffocation dreams' where I had apnea cuz of the position of my head or whatever but couldn't really move nor wake all the way up, so I sorta had to keep purposely edging my mostly paralyzed body closer and closer to the edge of the bed as best I could so I'd fall out and wake up out of it. And I have a laminate floor. BAAANG!!
Like many here have had to deal with insomina my whole life. Really bad at times.
Melatonin works best for me. I'll take 1/2 tablet when needed. Other than asprin,
this is the only drug I've ever taken. Amazed at the number of pot heads here!
Quoted from loneacer:I've been googling shoulder pain lately and ended up with a FB ad for a pillow with a cutout in it for your arm to help with shoulder pain.
Actually went to the doc for it today after suffering for 5 years. Getting an MRI next week, but might have a bicep tendon tear among other things.
Like this?
We got these when we bought our iCloud bed about 6 years ago, memory foam pillows w the cutouts for side sleepers. My wife uses hers every night, I've never gotten used to it though I still try to use it occasionally. They were $50 ea when we got them with the bed.
20210220_092140 (resized).jpgMy Fitbit tracks my sleep and gives an overall Sleep Score. Not sure what to do with the info beyond “ nice to know”
Quoted from DanQverymuch:I have no problem getting to sleep, even after something wakes me up. But I am sure my sleep would be better if I could stop waking up when my shoulder starts hurting a little while after rolling onto my side, which has always been my preferred sleeping position. Dunno how to tell my sleeping self not to do that!
try different mattresses.. I always sleep on my side also and the wrong mattress can put pressure on your hips, shoulder etc over time.
For me firmer actually helps.
You would think softer would be the idea but it makes it worse.
Something else to remember is to remove as many electronics from your bedroom as possible. Besides the mental association of sleep to work/surfing, cell phones emit radiation, and the blue light emitted by many devices disrupts the natural production of melatonin.
Quoted from pinzrfun:Like this?
We got these when we bought our iCloud bed about 6 years ago, memory foam pillows w the cutouts for side sleepers. My wife uses hers every night, I've never gotten used to it though I still try to use it occasionally. They were $50 ea when we got them with the bed.
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I think it was more like this one. It had a notch in the pillow that you put your arm through. I didn't pay too much attention. It was an unwanted facebook ad based on a previous google search. I'm a stomach sleeper, so I don't think it would work for me.
Best-Pillow-for-Shoulder-Pain-2 (resized).jpgQuoted from Methos:Something else to remember is to remove as many electronics from your bedroom as possible. Besides the mental association of sleep to work/surfing, cell phones emit radiation, and the blue light emitted by many devices disrupts the natural production of melatonin.
I have all my devices set to evening mode (blue reduction or elimination) when the sun sets to get a head start on all that. I haven't had a TV in the bedroom since I lived with my parents many years ago. Won't ever do so again.
I’m one of the few that Zyrtec gives a fucking wonderful nights sleep to. You might be one of the lucky group as well 
Quoted from loneacer:I think it was more like this one. It had a notch in the pillow that you put your arm through. I didn't pay too much attention. It was an unwanted facebook ad based on a previous google search. I'm a stomach sleeper, so I don't think it would work for me.
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I'm a side sleeper and saw that pillow but eliminated it as the elevation looks way too extreme for me.
Quoted from embryonjohn:I had sleep apnea surgery.
Truly barbaric stuff.
They took out my tonsils & adenoids, arched my throat, clipped off the uvula and re-broke my nose setting it so I could breathe out of both sides again.
It’s now physically impossible for me to snore.
The snoring returns........
Quoted from Mr68:I'm a side sleeper and saw that pillow but eliminated it as the elevation looks way too extreme for me.
Did you see the non-GERD version, not so steep?
The manufacturer's website has them on sale cheaper than Amazon, too.
https://medcline.com/pages/shoulder-pain-relief-system
I just ordered one. Thanks, @loneacer, I hadn't seen it before.
Quoted from Mr68:BTW. If any of you guys regularly wake up with the urge to urinate, I highly recommend you research Saw Palmetto. Not a drug, its an herb and I am a huge believer. Give it a least a month to kick in.
I think all men over 40 should be taking it for general prostate health but I'm not in a mood to get on my soapbox right now.
this. was getting up to pee at least once per night (can always go back to sleep) but started saw palmetto and rarely get up anymore.
Quoted from Seamlesswall:Speaking of pillows, that My Pillow guy keeps me up at night just thinking about him.
love that guy
Quoted from frenchmarky:10 years ago I kept having these stupid 'suffocation dreams' where I had apnea cuz of the position of my head or whatever but couldn't really move nor wake all the way up, so I sorta had to keep purposely edging my mostly paralyzed body closer and closer to the edge of the bed as best I could so I'd fall out and wake up out of it. And I have a laminate floor. BAAANG!!
I had those dreams years ago too. The worst. I tried a CPAP for a year but having that thing on my face just made my insomnia worse. Lost 30 lbs and the sleep apnea disappeared. Thanks goodness. Now I can have horrible nightmares about other things.
Have you tried running a small fan on low in the corner of your sleeping quarters? That white noise helps
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:Have you tried running a small fan on low in the corner of your sleeping quarters? That white noise helps
I always pack a fan when I travel also.
Many places you think you can get the fan white noise, only to find out the unit kicks on and off.
Quoted from JohnnyPinball007:I always pack a fan when I travel also.
A fan is a must for comfortable sleeping.
Not just any fan, some are high RPM whiners that drive you crazy.
Others a low drone that vibrates loose trim and non-nailed floor boards.
When you get a Tuned fan for sleeping you have a good thing.
I have non-drinking friends that do not hesitate to take a swig of Nyquil.
It (or the store generic) is good in a pinch, but it is highly addictive.
3 days on Severe Flu nyquil-type elixers and severe confusion sets in.
Gummy Edibles help me catch good Zzzz's.
Careful tho...too much can be like getting too drunk and may result in bed spins.
I found a sleep gadget at a thrift store called a Dodow. It projects a slowly throbbing light on your ceiling that you are supposed to time your breathing with, to help you relax and drift off. Apparently science is involved, so there may be something to it.
I'm sitting on it in case I need it when I get (even) older, I hear old farts have trouble with insomnia a lot. (So far so good here, knock on memory foam)
Quoted from embryonjohn:Shade grown~locally sourced
Gluten free organic I assume. My wife partakes occasionally.
What were we talking about again? 
Quoted from phil-lee:A fan is a must for comfortable sleeping.
Not just any fan, some are high RPM whiners that drive you crazy.
I started with a fan, but back about 20 years ago I got a new neighbor with a barking dog they left outside if they were gone. The fan didn't block that. That's when I bought my first white noise machine. I've had 3 so far. The newest one has about 10 different white noise sounds and 10 different fan sounds. Plus the volume can be set to several levels. Find the right noise and the right volume and nothing will keep you awake.
Quoted from MrSanRamon:Trazodone...
Robert
It does the trick for me too.
Quoted from DanQverymuch:https://medcline.com/pages/shoulder-pain-relief-system
I just ordered one. Thanks, loneacer, I hadn't seen it before.
Followup: Long story short, it worked! I wasn't too thrilled with how comfortable it was, I was sure my arm would fall asleep but it didn't, and after a week that pain in my shoulder joints after 20 minutes laying on either side was no longer happening.
Still using the body pillow, but the wedge part is stored away in case the pain ever recurs. (And with Rick and Morty's magnet button having rewired my brain to not nudge excessively or tilt, it may never do so!)
Quoted from DanQverymuch:Followup: Long story short, it worked! I wasn't too thrilled with how comfortable it was, I was sure my arm would fall asleep but it didn't, and after a week that pain in my shoulder joints after 20 minutes laying on either side was no longer happening.
Still using the body pillow, but the wedge part is stored away in case the pain ever recurs. (And with Rick and Morty's magnet button having rewired my brain to not nudge excessively or tilt, it may never do so!)
I actually bought the same and would never go back to the old pillow
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