Is Crazy Levi a shill account for Gary Stern?

I mean I did meet you...but how do I know you where not wearing a mask?

This kind of thread is the reason that pinside can become so cluttered. You could have just posted this in the Beatles thread. No reason to start a new one other than to say look at me.

So, even if this was Stern Pro pricing, I wouldn't own it, because I'd prefer an actual Seawitch remake. But I wouldn't be surprised to see this game show up in tournaments, and 6 months later when the code is awesome, everyone will want to play one, but they'll be hard to find on location like Batman 66.

I'm betting it will be a lot of fun.

I'm sure the game will be fun to play as it is a rethemed sea witch ,which is a proven fun game. But, if the rumored prices are true it's not worth buying. This is what frustrates people who want Beatles because they love the theme but, they either can't afford it now or don't want to spend crazy money on a rethemed sea witch. I guess we will have to wait and see the official announcement on pricing.

What are the prices?

I agree with Levi here...a classic Table design from the SS era updated is nice to see. And if Stern does make big profits from “non-pinhead Beatles fans”, that just makes Stern viable for longer, which gives them more resources to innovate and deliver games that the Pinside community will more thoroughly embrace and enjoy. I for one look forward to playing this on location. Space and funds limit my collection and I already know I can’t have them all.....so this one will be getting my quarters anytime I see it on location. If this game helps operators in that regard, then I say Stern has a win-win on its hands for those who are pinball professionals.

Supposedly this game won’t be on location. No coin mechs.

That’s my point.

Hey Levi you have a bunch of brown stuff on your nose-I keed I keed

I do think it is cool they are re-issuing an older title

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Hmmmmmm....

The game is supposed to look like typical 60s cheese. That’s the point. It’s based on a classic 1980 table. Also the point.

I don’t like the way it looks, but I also don’t like the 60s aesthetic of Gottlieb EMs. Stern made a conscious decision on art direction knowing it wouldn’t please everyone. I’m kind of embarrassed reading the vitriol and hate on some other threads.

The opposite of love isn’t hate. It’s indifference. I’m indifferent to this game, but I hope Stern sells all of them to people who will enjoy it.

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Stern didn’t have control of the art direction. To make it clear, that doesn’t mean I like it. I have very little interest in this machine. I’m curious to see pricing

I'm digging some of the upgrades made. Could really bring some life to the layout if they are done correctly. I'm looking forward to playing it as it's a style of game that I really like. Price will determine if I actually buy one.

You guys do realize that there are a ton of locations that charge a flat fee to play for a day or just have all of their games on free play and make money of food and drinks. Coin mechs do not prevent a game from being in the public to play.

I'm happy this thread exists...I couldn't bring myself to post in that other crap fest.

I like it! I'm honestly not sure what else people would have expected for a Beatles game focusing on this era. It just proves that yet again Stern is in a can't win position. A classic era game style fits the theme perfectly. They used what many argue is their best classic design. I think it looks really fun for what it is! The art is also perfect for the theme. This thing screams sixties to me...which is a good thing here. While I personally would have rather seen something from the Revolver or Sgt Pepper era, if you are going for the early era I really do not know how they could have done it any better. Franchi absolutely nailed what he was asked to do in my opinion.

My two biggest concerns are songs and price. I hope there are more songs than are listed on the playfield. Time will tell. If only these five songs, that would definitely be a missed opportunity. I can only assume the license dictated this, and that's a shame. Price is the big one. While I really like what I see of the game so far, I hope the price reflects the simplicity. I know it won't...and that is the one place I really think this could be a miss. If the rumors of diamond pricing are true...well I can't quite wrap my head around that one. In reality this SHOULD be cheaper than a pro. I understand why it will not / cannot be, but that doesn't mean I like it. I am hoping at worst the gold is priced lower than a premium, but I'm not holding my breath on that one either. I guess we will find out soon enough.

Pricing concerns aside, I can't wait to see the rest of the package and play it! It looks fun to shoot and looks like it will pull the player in to the Beatlemania era nicely.

Expected to start out from the old Cavern Club daze to progress through the years,ending up with some great wizard modes, centering on the concert on the roof of Apple as a finish!!

The have the right layout game and theme as long as the price matches this could be an interesting title. Regardless they will sell just maybe not to Pinside pinball collectors but buyers are buyers in business.

I was a bit disappointed at first, but some of the images and things are actually pretty cool and I love the spinning disc in the shape of a 45. Just wish more of the real images were used (brand, album art, etc). Maybe a bit of Hamburg would have been fitting as a tribute.

I love all their material, but the older material is engrained in rock and roll and they were still a band back then, as a live act nobody could touch them. After MMT it was downhill so I'm cool with the selections. Honestly, if the cost comes in right, I'll pick one up and trade my Seawitch away.

Link to pictures, please....

These are the current pictures.

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how much for the art blades?

50k

Growing up my parents were big fans, and they mostly listened to this early era, so I will always have a soft spot for it. I really love all the old memorabilia used in the art. I agree about the 45...that's pure awesome. Love it in X-Men, and it's a great fit here. I really hope the prices come in reasonable. I am not very hopeful, but we'll see. Hope you get one!

Thanks!!

Seriously though, just like Supreme this is a simple cash grab that does absolutely nothing to disrupt their release schedule. I have zero problem with it and I hope they sell a bunch.

My ray of sunshine from this Beatles pin is believing that Stern will eventually do a Seawitch HD/2.0 re-skin for this new 2018 setup (ala PBR) with same magnets, spinning disc, ball lock, and whatever else we’re missing from this new reimagined layout.
Call it “Revenge of Seawitch” or “Seawitch’s Maelstrom”, do a throwback art package with matching animations+sounds and you’ll most likely get my, and most other classic Stern lover’s monies.

Stern can also spin it as a new “audiotherapy” device by bringing back the rhythmic sounds of gently crashing waves once again!
Pin-therapy at it’s finest.
Put it next to your bed* to get the deep restful sleep you deserve!

*Doubles as an alarm clock with new gentle waking feature.

I like their early albums ... their first four or so much better than the later acid trip that came later. I also love classic Stern machines like Seawitch. I like what I see. I don't want any 'Helter Skelter' multiball.

This is part of Levi's CV to join Stern

As for the love......

Would love to play one as I am sure it will be a ton of fun to play. No doubts there.

But, sounds like this game is not pitched at regular pinball players so will have to hope a collector friend buys one!

I honestly think the game looks cool and I can't wait to play it. The only problem I have is the price. In my opinion, the game should cost less than your typical Stern pro, and it's obviously going to cost WAY more.

Agreed.

I am not real happy with the changed bottom either. Should have gone classic IMHO.

I also am a firm believer that if this is reskinned and released as Seawitch2.0 at Pro model pricing then I will buy one.

Exactly.

It's amazing how people dismiss the older material as "bubblegum/pop crap". I love it all, my favorite album is MMT - but I can tell you playing the older material in the original key at the octave they sang it at is very difficult. Their live renditions of early RnR is second to none, (Long Tall Sally, Twist and Shout, Some Other Guy, etc). They took shitty B sides from America and made them into a legacy that will last a very long time. Once they hit America, there was no stopping them.

What would have been cool is if it was the Capitol swirl or the rainbow label was used, but Apple probably doesn't want Capitol to get jack shit even all these decades later.

I'm not sure how people can support this from Stern. It's really mind boggling and truly shows why we sometimes get bent over in this industry.

I get all of the points made for the folks that support this HOWEVER what absolutely kills this for me is the price. Are we forgetting how much this game is going for? They can creatively make this is as simple and retro cool as they want but for folks to support them taking this mega franchise, essentially rebranding an older game so they can quickly move on this and then sell it as an absolutely ridiculous price is unbelievable.

How about we take our money and support companies like Spooky, AP or even JJP that are innovating with original IP's - taking a gamble but moving this hobby into a better place as opposed to rewarding a simple cash grab. Hell even CGC who is taking games not reachable by many, improving them and then selling them at a great price is something to create a supportive thread for.

I like Stern a lot. I've never been one of these haters that says stern is junk, etc. To say so would be ignorant b/c they literally kept this industry alive. On the flip side - to reward them with nonsense like this is just too much. If I could downvote this thread twice I would. We shouldn't be celebrating a strategy like this.

Personally I can't wait for a Supertramp Star Gazer.

... or a Barry Manilow Catacomb.

It just goes to show how skewed our perception of money is in this hobby when we think a $5K+ game is affordable.

Journey Meteor?

I’d be in for a David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust Stars.

Queen Quicksilver?