If anyone in the club wants out, I am casually looking for a BW in WI area.

I am still looking for a BW in the WI area with a decent pf and for a reasonable price. Dirty is fine so long as the price matches. Happy to pay for a clean example also.

Maybe try and see how many here would commit to buying?

Then let Cliff know the numbers...

I am in for a set of protectors for BW!

I have been thinking of fixing my cab with this upgrade

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Hey Swinks, curious if anyone ever got you this info and if the drop target decals were ever remade?

I will be starting a full teardown on mine and need decals. I can possibly get a scan of my old ones if that helps

here is a image of the plastic over the drop target that I have attempted to start cleaning up.

I plan to use this to help remake a new plastic for my cracked/missing parts one.

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I would enjoy if someone else could share the drop target sticker images

I am not sure how to measure a radius but here are the other measurements
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THANKS!!!!

I unfortunately do not have a set of calipers (ordering them now) but it black lines are all the same width of a tick mark on my tape measure. Estimate as 1/32?? hard to estimate as I need a better measurement instrument.

If you want to wait till I have better precision when my calipers arrive that is coll also. I just appreciate you doing this!

looking good!

thanks for sharing your talents and the effort!

Thanks. I can try and print on Sunday when I get to the printer.

I assume I can just cut the radius myself by hand and should turn out fine.
If I can get a rounded edge one and a tip on what material to print I am happy to make up some extras for other owners.

Looks GREAT!!

Thanks VERY much.

I will print in a few and let you know/confirm how good they look!

Great stuff.

Sounds like I am on the same page as you. Planning a full tear down and refurb on my game along with new DMD extender and also the light engergi thing! If you have the chance it would be great to scan all the plastics while they are off the game. I am sure they could be useful to have for others as well. I think the rest of mine are good but not sure.

Let me know if you have any questions along the way or have trouble with putting anything back together and I can take photos for confirmation.

on that note, can anyone recommend a good scanner at a decent price?

I probably should start a seperate thread but since we are on the topic...

And it begins...

PF pulled out of cab and in the rotisserie.

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Gonna tear is all down and rebuild in the next month or so.

Thinking I will get the wireforms powdercoated or replated loacally.
What color/s do you think I should go for?

So you like BOLD for the powder?

I was thinking since this game has so much wire to maybe do the dark blue that is at the back half of the pf. Try to pop but not stand out.

Any other thoughts?

looking good Crash.

I am a little behind you. Wireforms are back from powder and I have been busy completely stripping topside and polishing pf. All parts from top have been tumbled, sonicated, and rebuilt and resleeved topside coils. I am about 80% repopulated on topside and done for the day.

Sat morning I will be busy picking up a new pin, but then hope to start digging into the bottom side and stripping everything in the afternoon.

I will post some photos once I have the topside all repopulated.

drop target images printed perfectly.

Here is a file with it replicated a bunch of times. I figured if I am going to print them I should do an entire sheet.

If anyone knows where I can get them printed on a decent replica of the sticker paper then please tell me. My local kinkos only had thin label paper. For now I printed on card stock and plan to affix and then mylar over, but sure would be nice to get some actual stickers printed.

Baywatch drops 600dpi100percent print.pdf

I also finished cleaning up the plastic image for above drops. I flipped it and it prints nicely on transparency. I figured it may take a few attempts to affix to actual plastic so I also set it up in replicate.

I will probably make a few of these drops to have some spares.

Hoping I can find someone with a laser cutter to make these as it would be easier then by hand with skillsaw and dremel.
I tried to upload the image but file it too large for pinside.

Those look GREAT! Can you possibly dig up the type of sticker paper and link it?

I will print some extras if needed and can mail off a set to you.

I assume it is intact. it looks just like in that photo, a half moon.

I am currently hunting for a scanner (been waiting for a HP scanjet 4600 or 4670 to pop up as many have said it is good, but no luck yet). I can scan for you as soon as I get a scanner to use.

ok, I will get you a photo in a bit, pf is currently upside down while I rebuild all mechs (my least favorite part).

LMK if you need some more

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any update on correct sticker paper to print to?

thanks

Started repopulating remainder of topside last night. Hope to get wireforms back on in the next day or so.

I need to start cleaning up the inside of the cab also. I may just do a half ass touchup to some of the inside cab walls and then clean it up more when I can work outside (too damn cold now).

I am anxious to get this back together so I can then start working on the DMD extender.

I can check slings for you later. Heads up that I think bayarea has many of the plastics available if needed in 1 off?

Still some to do but wanted to share a quick photo of wireforms back on before heading out to play some pinball on route.

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Thanks guys.

I actually think the wireforms look SO much better like this then stock brass (apparently gold zinc in reality according to my powder guy)

Crash >> drop target plastic is 3.8 x 2.2 at widest x tallest points if that helps?

I can try to make you an extra if you want? Will take a little bit but I can try.

Thanks for the info. Just used what was on there. Where do I find condoms at?

Thanks. I honestly have zero idea what the exact color or powder brand is. I went in with my stripped pf and sorted through a couple hundred samples to find something that I thought looked good to my eye. I wanted blue but not too dark as I felt the pf already had lots of dark blue and I wanted to wireforms to not be distracting so I picked something more int he sky/lighter hue with tonal similarirites to the other blue/green hues in the pf. This powder also has a less shiny finish which I wanted.

maybe under the gaurd shack? I can check when I get home.

That plastic goes on the pf back board. Affixed to upper right side with 2 short #6 hex head fine thread.

now I need some help.

Where does this bracket go and how? photo would be best

I have it as being labeled with the back panel for pf and I assume it goes behind a ramp to keep air balls form getting stuck or to support a ramp???

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Thanks EricR. That is what I assumed was the spot. I appears to keep balls on the track with a too quick launch? I guess. Wish I had realized and had it powder also. Oh well, not noticable from player POV anyway.

Thanks for photo confirmation.

I have extras of both the drop target stickers and will be making extras of the plastic over the top of the drop targets.

If you want to document color display ad it is appreciated as I plan to install also and I know you have done it a few times now.

new plastic I made for myself. Not perfect but not bad for the first one.

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I already have clear cut and more transparencies already printed. Just need to paint the back of the transparencies white and affix to plastics. I want to make a better plastic for myself with a different affixer (used a spray on glue but has some bubbles, gonna try some varathane or liquid laminate glue next time).

I also have a bunch of drop target stickers since I printed a whole sheet.

In the spirit of giving back, I am willing to give a plastic and set of drop target stickers to any baywatch club members that show evidence of being in need. Upload a photo of your broken plastic or sorry looking stickers that you are wanting to replace and them pm me with your address. I will ship out when I have them done.

I will leave this offer open for a few days as I want to know how many I need to make of the finished plastics.

I am assuming nobody wants/needs a free new plastic and drop stickers since noone has replied with photo of their busted one.

Guess there really are only like 5 of us that even keep this thread going, lol.

check!

Got you down for 1 nate!

pm me your address swinks. I'll send you a set of drop target stickers.

If anyone else is needing stickers or a replacement plastic, my offer is good till Sunday following the NFC championship. Post a picture of your janky/gorked current plastic to show it is needed.

so far I have Pinball_Nate and TenaciousT on the list.

These are not perfect since they obviously are not silkscreened, but hey they are free...

yup, I had one frame completely blown out when I did my refurb.

My game is 99.9% done and I will load up pics when complete. i am waiting on 2 switches to come in from pblife. After putting the game all back together I found 2 that were gorked.

Glen > I have you down for a plastic also.

Ok, with pinRob in, I am cutting the offer off.

That is all I have for clear plastic already cut and shaped and each ones takes a bit of time (which is always limited).

OK.

Plastics polished edges.
Transparencies printed and backs painted white.
Plastics affixed to transparencies with varathane.

Will take a week of dry time before I can futz with them.

I am not going to drill out the holes as it is a pretty tight placement on my game depending on how your ramp is and the posts it sets on, so easier for each person to drill it out yourself for exact fit.

I suggest overdrilling slightly (helps to keep if from breaking it it has a little play) and drill from the frontside. Go slow with pressure but high speed rotation on drill (almost melting the hole as you drill); do it with the plastic firmly placed on a piece of paper on top of a piece of wood to keep from scratching off paint on backside and also for an optimal clean hole (everyone likes a clean hole).

I will post some photos after I get the camera charged.

lol. ummm... never

I spent all my BW mods money on powdercoat and the DMD extender.

plastics are done. They are not perfect, but better than what you have.
I am not entirely happy with how the transparency is holding to the plastic (some edges lifting), but hey, free is free right...

You can always peel and restick with something else if you want, but should hold up pretty well once installed.

Pinball_Nate
TenaciousT
Glen
pinRob

Please pm me your adresses. If you sent them before then they are probably buried, so please send them again.

rob and nate >> letters are addressed and stamped.

Where you at Tenacious T and Glen? I looked through all messages and dont think either sent me a PM originally or now. Hit me up ASAP if you still want a plastic. I'd like to only stop at the PO once/tuesday on way to work.

all 4 addresses received

plastics and tossed in some new drop target stickers go out on Tuesday. Standard snail mail.

dropped them in the mail this morning so you shoudl all see them in a few days.

I suggest lining up holes for drilling and measure 3 times, drill once.
Good luck and hope you are happy with them. Not my best work but first time remaking a plastic from scratch.

Top of plastics still have protective layer, so be sure to peel it off. Bottom obviously dont have any protection.

Sorry, mailed out the remaining good ones I had already.

Should be fairly easy to print the ones in this post
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/baywatch-clubmembers-only/page/3#post-2150902

already prepped for you. You can print on sticker paper or even just use a nice card stock and then mylar over them once applied.

anyone get their plastic and drop stickers?

Were they so crappy that nobody wants to post ?

man USPS standard mail has really gotten slow...

2 weeks ago I had a standard letter take 7 business days to travel 120miles.

anyone else have issues with the fork micro switch in the shark hole?

I just installed a new one and already it needs more adjustment.
I am not a fan of the fork micro ever and with the shark hole getting so much action it gets lots of use.

Anyone have tips for this?

I actually love it!

if you hate the game, why are you in the club thread?

Crash,

Will you still do a short hand picture tutorial for DMD extender in Batwatch please?

It would be a big help

Great and THANKS!

Did everyone get their plastic? I heard form 2 of the 4 I shipped to. Did the others not show up?

Looking forward to this when you get a chance. I am ready to dig in to this addon when you are

looks great Crash! I need to find sometime to finally tackle the project.

Yeah.

My BW has been 100% for a few weeks now, but honestly I have been pretty intimidated by the DMD extender portion of the project.

I also just got 3 new machines that are in need of love, which means playable and clean machines with add-on mods get tossed to the back burner.

Mine did that. It is not supposed to fire the extra time. I figured it was my trough optos and found a NOS set. Replaced them and still the same symptom of vuk shoots ball to lane, vuk shoots again with no ball, then I can launch ball. (with multiball you would hear it fire the extra time between each ball) After that I determined it was a flaky shooter lane switch and not the opto set.

You will need to remove the apron and ball launch mech to get to the switch. I suggest just replacing it all together. My root issue appeared to be the plastic switch bracket was slightly cracked so sometimes the switch would engage and other times not. Also appears to be a flakey mirco. Either way, replaced the switch and no more double kick.

good luck. keep us posted. Will be interesting to see if same resolution.

I have also felt guilt for buying Waldo's Baywatch, but got relief this week when I got word that he found another one to bring back into the fold. Baywatch is seriously a keeper for me. I love it!

I love the theme. I really don't see what is to not like about it. Beach babes from the 90s and great blue eyed singing sensastion on the translite. I really do think the theme is classic in so many ways.

Aside from that, Yes it is one hell of a player and very deep. Tons of cool features and a fairly challenging game.

Also probably the best set of skillshots in all of pinball

Anyone that has not dropped in the aftermarket LED board for this game should. It is a great addition.

probably 1500plus but it is worth double IMHO. If you like a plain FUN game with LOTS to shoot for and BOOBS then BW is where it is at.

curious, how srong is everyones upper left flipper. I can make the IRONMAN ramp about 70% of the time but have noticed that most players (my game is on location) struggle with it. The flippers all had a fresh rebuild and travel clean.

I had noticed that the EOS on the lower L also seems to be in charge of the upper so I think it is just how the game is.

What do others find? Is your upper L flipper a little weaker than you would like?

Nice to know yours is strong. Maybe I am being too critical. Mine will make it but it is a very tight shot to time it right.

When you get a chance will you check your EOS on bottom L flipper and see how tight it is gapped?

Sleeve, bushing, everything was rebuilt a short time ago and it has always been like this. I am thinking not a mechanical thing.

thanks for the info guys. Sounds like mine is about the same. Maybe I will tighten up the gap ever so slightly to see if that give it a bit more oommppff.

Baywatch is all around an amazing game. Super fun to shoot, great amount of player interaction. The theme was done really well. The extra big display and dots are great. It is actually a very immersive experience.

Route players also seem to love it. It is a game I will keep forever! I also feel fortunate to have gotten such a good deal on it and grabbed it when I did.

Side note that the game looks great with LEDs also!

got a pic?

assuming it was a straight up trade you are ok to return. If you gave up the hoff and ponied up cash then yuo are never allowed to stare into his dreamy blue eyes again!

Verified HUO would like bring around 4000, but that is a small but different market and collector than most. I love the game and would probably pay around 2700 for a perfect example. Reality is around 2500 to the general population id guess.

Would love to see pics

I am likely part of the hold up on a cliffy. I have a NOS BW pf and offered it to Cliff to use, but we have been unable to sync up so I could get the pf to him at a show. I dont like the risk of double shipping a rare pf, so have been unwilling to do that.

If someone else has a clean pf without shark hole wear they can get him then that would likely mean some movement on this.

I cant rememeber the name but basically a drop in aftermarket board which allows you to program the intensity and rise/fall of all 4 GI strings independantly.

In short you can get rid of epilepsy mutiball and the aweful relay clicking.

Check the opto boards on the trough. They are pretty junky and tend to have issues.

To test, once it appears to have failed with kicking a ball, open the coin door carefully (vibration is sometimes enough to help it "fix itself") and go into switch and coil test to see if things are working.

I am guessing the coil and plunger is just fine. It is the flakey opto board. Carefully reflow traces and the tiny chip and hopefully good to go.

If it does end up being your opto boards and you cant fix or find a replacement set then let me know. I have a few sets I bought a while back since they are hard to find.

hell of deal on that for 2200!

Such a great game and that must be one of the nicer original examples.

you are already at the top end for the title...

2500 is about the max on BW currently.

My example is almost as nice as yours and I picked it up for 1050 about a year ago and it has a sweet custom topper that is a real movie prop from the show. I have since added a bunch and pimped it out with powder and the controlled light board, but still dont think you will find even the best example BW selling for much beyond 2500.

I think the Hoff's mint example and signed went for just over 3k not too far back?

600 bucks flip in a week is pretty nice.

Let us know what it goes for. BW is a severly underrated game so maybe it is getting the love it deserves!

When everyone knows you picked it up for $2200 and are flipping it so quickly you have a limited audience/ amount I would guess.

Taking bids IS pretty lame and if you wanted to be respectful with it then you would just put a price on it.

Pretty sure exactly what you are doing is fishing for bids and a profit on your good fortune of finding it...

I'd also suggets you go start an actual ad if you are wanting to sell.

keep me posted. I plan to be out to visit in late Jan or more likely Feb (need to bring my bro his 2nd game and pick up a medusa he has been storing for a local friend). I will be sure to hit you up when I am driving out this winter so we can hang.

Super looking forward to Sept also!

what is the issue you are having?

Mine works like a charm. Needed to completely clean the launch wireform, and silicone rubber on posts, and ensure your plunger kicker is strong. Then adjust so switches are perfectly gapped/adjusted so diverters open with the right timing. I found the right kickback above shark flipper to be the most difficult to get right. It was hard to get that to open with right timing. Next step is to make sure that shark kicker pushes ball up wit a clean path and enough force to go all the way back around to top left flipper.

I will say my biggest struggle is my upper left flipper could use a little more power but with the design of a single EOS on lower left flipper it is difficult to gap correctly (at least that seems to be the issue). I have not replaced the flipper button switch yet but may do that next to see if it give me a little more power. Adise form that the 3 skillshots work perfect in my game. Great feature.

this is where you want the silicone. Go one size smaller that suggested. It will be a huge PITA to get on the post to the topside of the inlanes (soak the silicone in warm mater then be strong like hoff). That slightly smaller silicone and the smoothness helped me alot.

The other thing is to go watch (literlly hundreds of times) the speed and trajectory of how the ball comes out of the shooter wireform. Small adjesments to how it attaches to the left wireform can make a huge difference based on the pitch and level of your game. I ended up removing a washer from below the wireform attachment and then fine tuned it to hug the top ball guide on exit. I also laid down some mylar where the ball first bounces (if your wood has gotten chewed up at all it will steal velocity).

It took some tweaking but once tuned in it has been rock solid! Weel worth all the effort to get it right 95% of the time, cause it is one of the best skillshots of all time

titan or pinball life both carry them.

I personally like the translucent stuff

1500 on the low end. 2000 on the high end. I see that price continuing up as of the past year and guessing that is just due to some people are actually into playing a game and are able to get beyond the theme. It also seems many others (like me) love the theme. I mean what is not to love? It was a show mainly about 2 things... boobs and bouncing boobs. Toss on that it is a pretty deep game with a solid ruleset and packed with enough things that in todays world this is a super LE.

just tune in the ramp switch. It has to be set just perfectly.

well for accuracy, one person picked up that HUO for 2200 and then advertised it for 3000 a couple of weeks later. Pick your poison but I would say 2200 is the more accurate valuation and I own one.

mini nut drivers online at Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Wiha-26591-Precision-Driver-Piece/dp/B0006OBFEK/ref=sr_1_2

What is the link to buy this and is it really plug and play? I tried to get the old style towork and could never figure it out.

I would just like to know when mine will actually be showing up.... It has been months now since I paid and I have been told numerous times it is coming.

I am nearing the end of my patience on this one. Please let me know...

we REALLY need some more owners to get out there and leave your review and rating on Baywatch!

Such an awesome title and it deserves to be in the top 100 IMO. Sad to see it sitting so low.

Wildcat is a bad move as it contains silicone. Please use novus to clean and then ax that is only carnuba.

silicon embeds into the pf wood. In the short term, no issue. In the long term it can cause issues to the pf topcoat on some games and for sure makes it nearly impossible for someone to restore/ clear in the future (wont accept clear)

In essence, novus to clean and carnuba to wax is the safe and most effective way to keep a pf in tip top shape for the long haul.

I think you are on the right track. That would be my next thing to test

shuold be fine to use a 5a when testing

Are you using standard flashers or led flashers? Never hurts to pull a few flashers from the chain systematically to try and eliminate those. I would also go through all the coils to test them to see if one has gone bad/shorted internally

with all 32 line out, I think you are on track. Granted, I am still learning, but that would be my next move.

yup, look like new still. Mine was on route for a while also and no issues

You can borrow mine for as long as you want. Come and get it whenever. Alternatively if someone wants to get it from Madison to Chad then just LMK.

cheers and thanks for all you do Chad! Happy to be even a little help.

Looking forward to what you do with it and no hurry from this end!

wireforms look GREAT!

make it so modes dont lock you out of MB progression

That is the one thing I would love to see. Or ability to stack some modes with MB.

Is the game running fine for you?

that should be in settings already. You can turn it so only on ball 3 from what I remember?

no way! That sarcastic heckling is great!

sad to have you go. Can you share the price (public or private)? I am curious where market sits on a nice BW.

excited to see what mods you come up with for SW and DI.

how are things coming? My game working well for you? Are you enjoying it?

Can you change default initials to LIONMAN for HSTD default?