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Batman forever questions about production

By kba78

5 years ago


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#1 5 years ago
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kba78

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Hi all, I have posted in the Batman forever forum before, without much luck. So thought I would give it another shot, just for curiosity.
I have a somewhat strange Batman forever with mostly some plastic differences.
Some things I have noticed are:

Right slingshot plastic looks to be Batman's arm.

Plastic around the vuk is just white/ checkered

Plastic above middle coin targets is also white

Both plastics on the apron are different:
Left one is Batman, right one is similar to production but definitely different.

The mr. E insert is white, not red

No black paint around the Batman symbol on the batcave

That's all I have noticed, but I guess for the sake of discussion. Does anybody know anything about the production of the game? The only thing I can find is, most of these odd plastics are on the flyer. Not sure if I have a early production or prototype. Not looking to see if I have a gem,as it's not going anywhere. Just really curious.
I do have pics if anyone is interested

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#2 5 years ago
 
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lordloss

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Post the pics!

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#3 5 years ago
 
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rollitover

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Yes indeed.
Post the Pics!
Post the Pics!
Post the Pics!

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#4 5 years ago
 
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lyonsden

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And post a picture of the serial number.

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#5 5 years ago
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Ok, here are a few pics. Let me know what you think. Also I made a mistake in my first post. The left apron plastic is Batman on production games. Mine is a Smaller version of the shooter lane plastic.
Also my serial number is second lowest on the database, for what it's worth

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#6 5 years ago
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As requested, I put up some pictures

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#7 5 years ago
 
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lyonsden

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Checking out the other games in that range on IPSNDB, yours is definitely one of the earlier ones. All of the others appear to be exports. The fact that there is whiteout on your serial number (which is also seen in one of the other games from that number bracket on IPSNDB) makes me think that yours was a reimport to the US. It would be interesting to read what is under the whiteout, but I'm not sure it is worth risking damaging the sticker. My guess is that it says Spain from the whiteout that is rubbed away. The other two serial numbers from IPSNDB are attached below.

Many of the first games from a run were shipped to international distributors and make contain some of the prototype/first run of plastics and playfield artwork. I couldn't find any information as to whether sega games had red boards in their prototype games, but from a quick google search, I couldn't find any examples (nor on IPDB).

One other things you could check is the version of the ROMs on the game. The earliest on IPDB is V3. If yours are earlier, you should make a copy of the them and get them added to IPDB (if you can't do that, someone here can help -- e.g., I'd be happy to as well as send you a newer ROM set, providing I have the ROM chips). In any case, neat game and thanks for documenting the differences.

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#8 5 years ago
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The ROM thing I went through a few years back. I bought the game years ago as a project( actually missing both plastic ramps). It came with two display drivers. One had a ROM version of 1.00, I think. I have to dig them up as I still have them. The CPU chip, the label had fallen off and the ROM was actually bad.
As far as the ramps go, I know they put a sticker over the signs because they had them reversed on production games. Too bad mine were missing because I would be curious to know if they didn't have the stickers.

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#9 5 years ago
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Display ROMs

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#10 5 years ago
 
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Hi I posted in the Owners Club Forum but I think you guys may be able to better help me if you have time! My BF machine has v0.10.1 on it. I can't find reference to it elsewhere. Do you see merit in updating it? Would welcome any input as IPDB lists v3.02 and v4.01 under this pin. Refering to the above, my serial number is 126102 and it was originally shipped to the UK. I'm not sure if that makes it early or late run but would be interested in insight on this too!

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#11 4 years ago
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Just a thread bump to see if any new information is out there

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#12 4 years ago
 
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You should have the 4.01/4.00 roms. They would have any added fixes and features.
In 2.00 they added bat gadgets and a couple of other things. I don't what they added in 3.0 and 4.0

There is some mention in the rulesheet
https://www.ipdb.org/rulesheets/3593/forever.htm

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Just a thread bump to see if any new information is out there

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#13 4 years ago
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I do have the newest roms installed. The pic I posted was of a second board that came with the game with the 1.00 display roms. As I stated above, the CPU Ron that was in the game was bad. Unfortunately

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#14 4 years ago
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Bump...

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#15 4 years ago
 
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I saw one on CL a few years ago with a high quality batman logo as the sideart. Prototype?

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#16 4 years ago
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Not sure if that would be a prototype. I would think more custom or someone trying to save a beat cabinet

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