I played my KISS LE tonight. Rumor has it that Lyman is finishing the code on it before he polishes BM66. Can't wait. Stern is awesome.
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I played my KISS LE tonight. Rumor has it that Lyman is finishing the code on it before he polishes BM66. Can't wait. Stern is awesome.
Quoted from RocketPin:
Different programmers.
now if they were both Lyman then there would be a problem.
Does anyone really know who is working on what in terms of coding? I have heard that Lyman is working on finishing KISS and nothing else till it is done. Who knows what's true?
Its almost like Stern's software programming production schedule is common knowledge however it isn't published anywhere.
Quoted from iceman44:
I'm in the don't care about dimples camp. I don't see ever being able to wear out my Huo pins.
If I do, that's what micro is for. Problem solved. Less stress that way!
If you think Stern is going to answer dimpling issues when they are having to deal with PF clear defects, serious issues, then you might be disappointed
You start selling pinball machines that are within a couple of grand of a brand new Chevrolet, you need to answer questions about issues whether perceived or not....
Quoted from pinmister:
This comment is concerning to me, getting a NIB is supposed to be exciting and part of the enjoyment of this hobby, not the other way around.
I am concerned that this could become a major issue for Stern. The Batman66 I played also had cracking in the shooter lane, and big dimples. I really thought that Stern's beta testers and quality control department had this problem resolved. I was wrong and now it is really becoming concerning. I really like Stern and I love pinball and I would do almost anything to try and save a company from it's own demise. If Stern does not fix these issues and start turning out quality product again they will be in trouble.
I watched this documentary the other day on Netflix called Atari: Game Over. It is a documentary about the rise and fall of Atari and how a couple of big mistakes cost the company to fold and go under. One of the mistakes was Atari getting greedy and wanting to capitalize on Christmas and they wanted to piggyback on the success of the ET franchise. Atari gave one of their head programmers 5 weeks to code ET instead of the standard 5 month time frame. It turned out that nobody liked the game and they made over 4 million cartridges. It was not the only reason Atari failed but it was a big contributing factor. Sounds familiar with trying to push product out the door too soon before proper testing was performed.
My point here is these large arcade/pinball manufacturers are more susceptible to trends and consumers than we know. If Stern has a couple of bad titles in one year that nobody buys, or they have major quality control issues that result in law suits, they will find themselves in deep shit. I recommend Stern hire a qualified beta tester that can help deter any potential issues that can become major problems. There is absolutely no excuse to have these Batman66 going out with defective playfields. They need to figure this out-like yesterday. Stern if you are reading this you can hire me as an outside consultant, I could help streamline your production without compromising quality.
I tend to agree. I think much of this will come down to how much customers care about these "issues" and if they are truly as widespread as what is being reported in the world of Pinside. Having the top end games costing 15k certainly does add a bit pressure on Stern to make sure their customers are happy.
Quoted from Rarehero:
Why should they? People were willing to beg them to give them $15k for the privilege to own one.
As long as people do this, nothing will change.
There are reports coming out that Aerosmith seems to have pretty much completed code (integrated animations, multiballs, etc). How did THAT happen with what is going on here?
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