Yeah Ice does cheerlead, I am sure he will be the first to admit that but to be fair if it wasn't for Lyman we would have most likely been left with a half finished game or a "complete" game with uninspired generic code.

The one positive I took from the BM66 response George made was they won't release things for this title until it's right and in their (George & Lyman) minds great.

I came up with a suggestion for that a while back reposted it on the previous page, merge minor villains into the villain vision - have the active villain/s taunting us during play.

Villain vision was a big advertised feature so why not use it for all villains.

When you make the riddler shot and go to select a minor villian they can mark which have been completed or playfield on the select screen. Plus instant info would be useful if minor villian info was accessible.

I ain't smiling. And after this pathetic Expo showing from Stern with no actual code drops I think my great pinball future will be with JJP moving forward.

I genuinely don't think they did, I think Stern/Gary are so ignorantly complacent/over confident in their imaginary 90% market share that I don't believe they even realise isn't true anymore.

Genuinely worried for Stern moving forward, the talent they have under their roof is capable of phenomenal games, but like Gary's comments on widebody gsmes "if one of these guys (pointing at designers) really wanted to push a widebody, well.... just don't, just don't ask".

That shows how complacent Gary is and a complete lack of innovation or trying anything different or new. If JJP could just reduces prices a little more they could wipe Stern out of the home/collectors market, which would ultimately be a shame.

Sterns presentation made it glaringly obvious they have absolutely no clue about their customer base or Gary is so blind/arrogant that he doesn't realise the home collector is the future not only at LE level but to advertise for free and expand the clientele for all these barcodes.

I honestly don't think things will change, if they where then they should have changed already before Jack and all the other competition got their feet well under the table. I don't think Gary even realises what is going on, his whole presentation about barcades just seemed out of touch.

Yes there are more barcades popping up but I don't believe they are going to sustain Stern on their own, the home collector market is huge and Gary seems so unaware of that and everything else going on around him namely JJP absolutely killing it and making Stern look like amateurs.

Name the last Stern title that was received as well (even half as well) as Jacks POTC was last night.....?

Give it a couple of years if Jack is willing to do POTC I am hopeful he might give SW a shot and finally give us a great SW pin!

If we as a community make enough noise we want a JJP SW that might help tempt them into making a pin worthy of the SW licence, what Stern made was a disgrace not just to SW but to pinball, for me it is the most disappointing pin in history .

On hard floor surfaces your definitely going to get strip light reflections compared to softer flooring. You could try mounting the strips so they are not facing directly at the floor, try installing at a slight angle into the centre of the cabinet.

Maybe Gary needs to stay behind everyday and repeat the following:

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Thanks for that post jfh. Sounds like some nice enhancements and little touches of detail in the Expo code, hopefully the code that George said would drop this up coming week is a little more advanced than the Expo code.

From the next drop moving forward I don't mind all that much how long Lyman needs to complete his vision and make this game awesome as long as you "communicate" what is happening Stern!

This has been the problem with Sterns upper management/decision makers for some time, I don't think they are intentionally being difficult with information, I believe and it's becoming more evident and apparent imo that they are just completely and utterly out of touch with the modern market and how to deal with the home collector side of the market.

Unless Lyman doesnt like talking in front of a crowd and simply didn't want to there is no reason to not of had him at Expo answering questions on BM66 and giving some insight into his plans for the code, literally Lyman saying what doc just posted would have turned Sterns seminar 180 degrees and wouldn't have got them so much backlash and critism.

I just don't think Stern have a clue anymore Gary's presentation all but confirmed that, a couple of friends of mine said it was like the ramblings of a great mind gone mad.

I'd like to see minor villains stackable with main villains and each other - the more villains you take on at once you should get a bonus or multiplier for that.

Also give a reason to go after multiple minor villains by offering specific changes to gameplay based on their characters attributes. Set the main mode structure up similar to how the old main villain modes played out, but with added perks while they are the minor villain/s running.

Mr Freeze - all timers are frozen while he's the active minor villian being caught, but as a negative effect add a balls are also frozen.

Bookworm - sequenced series of shots that need completing. Has it ever been done in a pin where you have to purposefully cradle a ball and watch a series of shots you then have to repeat by making those shot?

Egghead - I have no idea LOL, maybe have lit shots flash up then go out hiding what shots are lit, hitting the "e" stand up shows lit shots again but only for a set amount of seconds before going out again. As you complete shots it forces you to keep track of what shots you have made and what shots you have left. I would also "eggspect" as many egg puns as possible in this mode!

Shame - as he was the stupid/less intelligent one of Batmans 66 rogue gallery have lit shots values randomised (maybe let the player know via the RGB inserts or maybe leave it totally random) one lite shot could be 250,000, another 5,000, would add some frustration and laughs in multiplayer.

Mad hatter, something classic and simple but with a campy twist, a roving shot mode, shots could move side to side at different rates, also 2 shots moving from the orbits and meeting in the middle and going back out.

King tut....... hmmmm? Multipliers or hmmm..... he's big so.... big points mode

Some fun trivia to ponder and lighten the mood regarding code.

This is every word/text that has appeared during BM66, I wonder if we will see them all in the pin, would be pretty cool to eventually have them all appear through the modes or randomly in multiballs.

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Do the SLE's use a different speaker panel? Or are they also not aligned in the centre??

Speaker itself isn't even centre, in which case Yelobird managed to replicate Sterns factory look down to every detail

Seems like a simple fix though if someone was really that bothered, pretty sure the alignment/mounting could be changed on the back if someone's OCD pushed them that far, either way Yelobird speaker mod is superb!

Now if only someone was close to creating SLE cabinet art

As soon as I saw your shooter lane mount I mentioned you doing the Atomic Pile, specially with your good lady pinstriping/painting the edges like she did on the Batmobile/Boat mount, pretty certain it's going to look awesome and very much looking forward to the reveal this weekend!

Any chance you could also do a new mount for the Batmobile spinner? The factory organgy/red mount looks like sh*t, something show accurate or something like your Batmobile/boat mount with red edging and the Batmobile bat symbol cut out in the middle with more red edging would look awesome!!

It will come, the fact Lyman is doing it means it will come and it will be completed and from the little teases and leaks we know, he is trying to get it right and if he does it how he wants, will knock the theme integration out the f##kin park!

Unfortunately the wait for BM66 to potentially be a top 5 Stern is going to be a long one that we are going to have to wait out and more than likely continue to be lied to and fed a load of shit by Stern unless they change their ways, until Lyman is happy with it and feels its complete to his satisfaction, which as much as the wait suck I will wait for.

He has never let me down on a pin I have brought that he has had his name on before #In Lyman I Trust!

Yeah its mad to think how many of these mods should have been factory, Stern must of had a lot of reddish orange acrylic lying around the factory collecting dust and used it on BM66, the Atomic Pile and Batmobile Spinner would have looked 100x better and so much more show accurate in clear or smoked with the red edging Yelobird pulled off on his Batmobile/Boat mount - really looking forward to see what Yelobird comes up with for them both this weekend!

I would normally agree about the lockbar button surround, but I actually like the decal as it matches the style of show where Batman labelled everything with named labels. Something a little more hard wearing would be good though and ideally using the correct Bat Symbol, as the armour is supposed to represent the Batmobile on the LE and SLE, using the Bat symbol off the Batmobile makes the most sense and seems the perfect fit imo.

Did a couple of mock ups a while back:

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Text cut be cut out so the black powder coat makes the text show up as black, would help with the limited space around the button and on the lock bar

I posted some ideas previously:

Mr Freeze - Freezes your timers or a specific timer of your choosing with the action button?

Shame - Randomises a modes shot pattern?

Bookworm - Could force you to make mode shots a set number of times to light up shot multiplier inserts

Tut - Changes up the number of shots required on a particular shot in order to progress to SJP

A perk/bonus that matches the villians personalities from the shows would be cool which is why I thought of the things above to best match their characters.

Seasons would be great as mini wizard modes and would be awesome if the main villain modes changed up their shot requirements and patters season to season similar to how ST modes work/change from level 1, 2, 3.

SW maybe getting a lot of code drops but the one thing I keep noting is a lot of it is tweaking and optimisation.

The only real adding of content has been to the LCDs - video mode, light saber duel, loads of extras focused on the mini LCD, once code on BM66 is level with SW, it's going to blow SW away, BM66 will be able to have all the mini LCD stuff SW has plus the physical stuff like the crane, 3 sides of the turntable and the villian content on the screen.

I'll take the turntable and crane over the mini LCD 3 bank any day! Which I think is another reason why SW is progressing faster than BM66, SW is all LCD LCD LCD, BM66 has a lot more physical real estate in my opinion and far more physical coding opportunities plus it can have all the mini LCD stuff SW has plus all the villian vision specific features like villian taunts etc.

I really do hope Lyman knocks this one out the park it will certainly be his crowning jewel in just how damn good he is at taking layouts and turning them into the best stern have to offer.

Why not? We all have games we prefer more than others, imo BM has the potential to blow a lot of Sterns recent releases away.

I'm also hoping JJPs POTC has given Stern a kick in the ass to up their game.

So have you joined the BM66 club Hazoff with your first post here? Prem? LE?

The final BDK update Lyman did was pretty good, no way near as bad as people make out, the code suffered due to the lacklustre layout specifically the single ramp leading to the tedious upper playfield and flow stopper teeter totter ramp, I actually enjoy the drop target and lock under the joker can, the fact the drop didn't make it onto BM66 in some way was a shame.

Yelobird holy mother of mods batman!

That is awesome, even better than I expected

Puts Sterns Atomic Pile to shame!

By the time we get code these games won't look anything like they did when they left the Stern factory, some game changing mods rolling out for this game!

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Just looking through Batman 66 Atomic Pile on google and discovered some episodes had an extra floor on the atomic pile while in others its either missing or goes into the rock face as such covered.

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Okay this needs to be shared here, just stumbled across this on google, maybe a couple hundred dollars less I would be all over one of these.

https://www.factoryent.com/Batman-1966-TV-Series-Batcave-Desktop-Sculpture-p/408958.htm

Oh hell no, like I said a few hundred dollars less, plus the advantage of the exchange rate I wouldn't mind one of those in my gamesroom but $800 is insane, although if you look at that as a topper, compared to the $500-$600 Stern are charging for the Premium BM66 topper its bargain

Yeah I am quite observant/obsessive when it comes to the smaller details, I think we share a common problem - extreme OCD, its as much a blessing as it is a pain in the ass, but having said that you have certainly raised the standard/quality of mods around here big time!

No need now we have @yelobird, making the Batcave side of the turntable look badass.

Do you have any other games? I notice you don't display your collection on Pinside. Reason I ask is, I am hoping you own some more of the games I have for future mods

Looking forward to seeing the spinner mod you have, so far every mod you have made for BM66 has been a homerun!

I'll take a disc without a Batmobile will screw with locktight, haven't had any need to use my riveted replacement since using new screws and locktight.

Maybe offer both versions?

Did you use the original screws Vire? I found they where too short and the thread was only just getting into the bottom of the car.

If something doesn't drop this week I hope Gomez addresses it, although at this point he's almost become a compulsive liar when it comes to BM66 and it's code.

Without knowing all the facts I don't want to call him a flat out liar, it certainly appears that way though, we will have a good idea soon enough and things usually slip so the truth often comes out.

One thing that is certain at this point is Gomez has ruined all his credibility and faces a massive up high struggle if he designs or promotes any future titles.

Is this an option/additional mod you could create and offer?

Ain't looking good for code this week, so much for "2 weeks from now" at Expo

Yeah I think your right but I ain't holding my breathe on our code being released tomorrow.

Another week gone, another broken promise, missed deadline, lie, whatever you want to call it from Gomez.

All this hope for code is like flogging a dead horse or in this case trying to make humour out of this shitty situation flogging a shark.

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EDIT: Well Holy F##kin sh#t Batman, finally a code drop! Thank you Lyman for your hard work!

THANK YOU LYMAN! This update looks and sounds awesome!

George you ain't off the hook, moving forward maybe just keep it zipped and let Lyman drop a post or two about the code moving forward!

Loads of little Lymanesque touches to overall theme integration:

- The Cliffhangers
- Added video clips, sounds, light effects, and speech.
- Added custom speech from Adam West and Burt Ward.
- Batcave sequence and police headquarters take priority over primary shots for major villains.
- Added villain vision effects - really want to know if this is the early foundations for the Villain Taunts....?
- Added Batgirl animated intro to attract mode. This is displayed whenever Batgirl is seen anywhere in the previously played game (Villain Escape).
- Added episode-specific batphone hurry-up video clips.
- Reworked the batphone hurry-up so the hurry-up clips are retrieved from the individual episodes.
- Added rules to pre-batcave sequence (gordon target hit before making
the first shot in a major villain mode):

Just some of the highlights that jumped out at me, but the bonus of the update has to be the added topper light effects to the parts of the game where Batman and Robin are in the Batmobile.

I will say it again "THANK YOU LYMAN" this update oozes passion and your clearly putting a lot of thought into making the game play out like an episode of the show would which is simply awesome!

Don't let Stern or George off the hook this quick Ice, this update reads and looks to be awesome with a tonne of theme integration only Lyman delivers, but Stern and Georges with his constant code promises have made the whole code wait a dumbster fire, moving forward I hope they give Lyman (providing he wants to) the chance to post teases and updates about the code, literally communicating from this point forward in any shape or form will stop owners feeling so pissed off again.

That reminds me Yelobird any ETA on when you will reveal the new Batmobile spinner mount? I am going to be taking my game back out the box soon so I'll be after your stuff in one bulk order

I am stuck at work, if you or anyone can report what the - Added Villain Vision features are that would be great, its one of the things I have been most looking forward to.

Thanks for the info Doc that certainly adds a lot of confidence to that projected timeline.

Just to confirm is his plan to be complete and done with BM66 at the end of the year or simply feature complete by years end, with more updates to follow?

Biggest problem at Expo was George again saying next week/2 weeks

I think we all know that with Lyman he tries various approaches with his code, that's obvious with BM66 with how he is slowly building the shows format into the way the code plays out modes like an episode from the show, which is pure Lyman brilliance. It has simply been George and his over eagerness to promise code time and time again with those dates passing by without a whisper that has been the cause of all the code related frustrations. As always Sterns inability to communicate has been the eye of storm.

But this update is certainly substantial and Lyman has proved once again that he is Sterns MVC - Most Valuable Coder)

Exactly this, it's all any of us want, to just have abit of an idea what is going on, especially when so many previous promises/dates have been missed.

Stern would gain so much from communicating more fluidly.

I think this update speaks volumes where Lyman is taking the code and also the fact he wont be abandoning this game, this release could have been v0.90 or v0.95 with just minor villains and Villain Vision taunts left to add and left there, but the fact he has titled it v0.80 IMO is away of saying there is loads more to come, loads more I have planned, just bare with me! Which I am more than happy to do I would just like Stern to communicate it better through their social media.

Yeah we are definitely paying for Lyman, he was the sole reason I took the risk on this title and this update shows just how much thought he is putting into the theme integration, like MK6PIN said above this new update has now made the pin play out like an episode of the show which is cool as f##k and exactly what I was hoping for from this game. I just hope he can get the Villain Vision taunts in that George promised/sold as a feature back at the reveal, that feature alone would tip this title over the edge into greatness!

Are you talking about the mini LCD - Villain Vision?

If so maybe they are place holder for the Villain Taunts??

Do hits to the crane, have more of a show to them now?? I played BDK & BM66 back to back the other weekend and the hits to the crane on BDK have a lot of fanfare, GI dips, flashers pop, shaker motor rumbles just a great visual/physical pay off to crane hits on BDK. A hit to the crane on BM66 (prior to this update) just doesn't seem to have much fanfare, has the new update changed that?

I would like to have the crane hit sound effect from BDK replaced with the Penquins QWAUK, would be so much more fitting and an awesome little touch to the audio/crane hit.

Well I just emailed Lyman, well hopefully I guessed his email, just wanted to personally say thank you and ensure he was aware anything he read on Pinside or other forums was in no way shape or form aimed at him and that his time and effort on the code is truly appreciated and just a big thank you for all his work to this point on the code in this latest up.

@ 5:05 Crane multiball is started - notice the GI drops out and flashers go crazy.
@ 5:28 Crane is hit - again GI drops, flashers pop a couple times.

Obviously BM66 is a much brighter style and feel than the DK trilogy, so maybe use the RGB inserts and flash them multiple colours, a bit like the fight text was always different colours, plus have the flashers go nuts on successful crane hits??

Would also be a nice touch if Lyman could replace the "crane hit" sound effect and put the Penguins Qwackk in there instead.

Lymans last couple of TWD code drops where game changing, it was almost like the code change the layout it went from a clunkfest to a very fluid game requiring you to shoot all areas of the playfield, it's like Lyman coding it with one hand while playing the game with the other each shot sets up the next required to advance current mode or to start next mode all while complimenting the sometimes awkward layout, genius coding.

As per Stern facebook which docquest and MattS have confirmed was what Lyman said to them at Expo, so hopefully it was posted on Facebook as per Lymans request the next two updates he has planned are thanksgiving and just before Xmas!

I imagine one of these will be a polish and bugs update and the other adding content followed by another update or two in the new year. If both updates this year add more content BONUS!

Yeah there are a couple of fixes in this thread, search for them they are there.

One is using some dead foam to pack out the targets and another I believe is a new bracket - I think Stern can send you these if you ask and request one.

EDIT: Here you go courtesy of PinMonk https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/batman-66-official-club-thread/page/39#post-3639700

I agree it needs to attempt to hold the ball every time, there are times I have hit the batphone target so fast that the magnet hasn't got much time/chance of grabbing the ball, but when possible it needs to grab and hold.

Not only does it give you a moment to enjoy the Batphone clip (I am hoping Lyman adds in as many as possible) but that grab and drop to the flippers in my eyes is part of the choreography of the game to set up the "to the batpoles" combo.

Dialled In is pretty special, I played one a few weeks back and it totally blew me away. BM66 will be better than great once Lyman finishes the code, the update we just got makes it clear, that he has all the right ideas and things in place/in the pipeline for this game to achieve TWD levels of greatness.

Give Stern a call, your the guy they need in their QC department

Sounds like a lot of the bugs in the code where known but the code was released anyway, probably to give us all something and a boost which I think was a great decision and one I am certainly pleased with.

Code could have done with a couple more days to debug but they are hard at work on that now

Great write up, I always appreciate simple rule/shot walkthroughs like this, so thank you.

Oh and that score is insane, nicely done.

Have you managed to confirm the "to the batpoles" bug appearing in some modes?

Haha that is awesome! It's stuff like that in the hands of Lyman that will hopefully see this pin as one of Sterns best!

Post this over in the bugs thread if you haven't already, bugs are being worked on now and it's more than likely Lyman is taking a look at this thread and the bugs thread.

Like taz says above this isn't your typical non stop return to the flippers flow you get from a Ritchie game, it also wouldn't fit the BM66 theme if this was a layout like SW.

However it does have a lot of flowing shots, the ramps are lighting quick, the shot through the batmobile spinner and out into the left lane is a rocket on my game, the right orbit (providing the diverter to the Batcave isn't open) rips round out of the left orbit straight back at you.

You also have slower areas of flow, the penguin VUK isnt by any means stop and go it's almost an instant return with the only delay being the ball triggering the VUK switch, once it's on the ramp it's quickly back to the right flipper. It's also worth repeating the Batmobile spinner shot into the left orbit, as slower shots will pass through slower, but it's such a satisfying shot it's never a problem.

You also have the crane to take into account its more speed than flow, but if you hit the crane dead on in the wrong position the ball will come back at you and the flippers fast!! And often unpredictably. Oh and the magnet can also add a little more unpredictable speed.

Hope that helps...

Brilliant posts! Both spot on, it's nice having that game in the collection that scratches that itch none of your other games quite get.

Will you be offering a single Bat Symbol design or multiple? I'd love one that uses the Batmobile Bat symbol as I always view the armour on the LE & SLE to represent the Batmobile, which is why I am powder coating (black with flake) and pin striping all my LEs armour, lockbar, side rails, coin door, legs, speaker panel etc etc.

Yelobird

As soon as the Yelobird releases their new Batmobile spinner mount I can finally order all their mods

I was told Lyman has one and George plans to get one, which he said himself at Expo.

Well George wasn't the one that told me Lyman had one and believe me the way he has handled himself and BM66 code/in general, I wouldn't listen to a word he says moving forward

I am pretty glad how it has all worked out on the mod front, a lot of the other modders showed their true colours when they realised BM was going to be a low production game, some even abandoned mods mid way through showing off prototypes.

And a lot have let their quality and creativity drop off a cliff face, every time I see a mod thread for the next new release its more often than not, copy and paste mods (backboard, scoop, under cabinet lighting), stuff just rushed through a 3D printer or the dreaded whack an LED in any $1 plastic toy you can find that might loosely resemble anything on the playfield/theme, to capitalise on the new game excitement.

Dave and Darcy, have come to the rescue of BM66 and given lazy modding a major creative bitch slap!

Love the little Bat logos on the rocks that a great touch and typical of your attention to detail.

But does this mean you wont be making a replacement mount? The pink/orange is the whole reason I wanted a new one making to get rid of that silly colour that Stern went with. If it’s something you could do as a custom order let me know.

Thanks for the reply Dave, still plenty of your mods I’ll be ordering, do you have anything else planned for BM66 at this point or is that it?

Reason I ask is I simply want to make one single order with you for everything I want, that way it saves me big time on shipping. Cheers Jon.

Do you have anything else in the pipeline Dave? I have been holding off because you have been pumping out great mod after great mod, anything else coming off the Mod Couple production line?

Could a new bracket be made by the community that would remedy the issue permanently?

I’d say that is a very accurate guess, I think we got the code earlier than planned just to get some code out to us, as Lyman was working on the bugs before we even got 0.80.

As per the Stern of Union:

Batman ’66 – The dedicated programming team has outlined a plan for code.....

Be on the lookout for a teaser pic soon showing some things in the works involving the minor villain mode implementation; some very unique and innovative rules!

Really excited to see what Lyman has in store for us with the minor villains, unique and innovative rules, I like the sound of that!

Here you go, this is November’s:

http://www.sternpinball.com/community/stern-of-the-union-address-november-2017

Pardon my stupidity, but one of the sharp brothers is now doing Sterns Facebook/social media is the other involved in coding? Or game development?

Crane hits needs to loose that BDK sound effect and be replaced with Penguins quack, when I hit the crane I want to know I’ve hit him and hear his reaction, it was always great in the show when he would get annoyed with batman and go into a quacking frenzy

Something tells me if an idea gets enough upvotes and positive responses it will be looked at

Don’t assume anything is the lesson I have learnt over the years, sometimes the most simple of things can be over looked when the focus is on incorporating more complex ideas.

I can tell you this thread is being read and looked at which is why I think it’s in all of our best interests to upvote ideas we like as a group of owners as much as possible to make them standout as something we like and would want.

Maybe that's where the TV modes and Season inserts will come in to add some mode variety, plus another gameplay activated mode like Bat-Turn would be great, bat climb has been suggested and that would be cool! I guess the Bat signal insert and Batman insert are going to be utilised for wizard modes.

I am pretty intrigued what Lyman has in store with the minor villains, the quote direct from the Stern Union update referenced the minor villains as "very unique and innovative rules", if they do in fact at some sort of perk the minor villains could help add a little variety to the main villains by effecting gameplay.

Download the BDK manual it has a detailed page on crane adjustments.

Not seen that but that gives me a cool idea for a mode/shot.

Have a ball locked on the magnet, put a second ball into play with the crane either directly blocking the magnet or sweeping back and forth across playfield (or randomly moving from position to position with no rest period).

Have it like Vengenance multiball from ST, where you have to hit the captive ball off the magnet with the active ball, could be a hurry up mode and tied into Batgirl having to rescue Batman and Robin from a trap!

EDIT: it could even have the ramps tied to it for more depth and 60s kookiness, have the crane blocking the magnet shot forcing you to use ramps but with a twist so left ramp shots move the crane one place to the right and right ramp shots move the crane one place to the left.

Welcome to the club, was it the code update that finally swayed you? And which model did you take the plunge on, Premium? LE? SLE?

Here you go and in full colour no less
http://www.sternpinball.com/upload/games/batman/batman/439/Batman_TDK_Manual.pdf

It gives you a breakdown/schematic of the crane parts? Page 105 onwards, from that I worked out how to adjust the crane on my BDK.

Yeah its a simple switch design, which is why I think the manual just shows you the schematics of how it goes together, because there isn't a switch as such. When my BDK stopped registering a good % of hits, I used the manual to take it apart and if I remember correctly found the plate that the spring attaches to had shifted slightly, put it all back together and it worked perfectly again. Unfortunately the manual is more of a how to take it apart and put it back together guide rather than here is how you fix it.

Just asked Jack and Mike on the stream if they could ask Lyman if he could replace the BDK crane sounds with the Penguin's "Quack" to crane hits. Mike said he would mention it to Lyman so fingers crossed, he likes the idea and can add it.

No it was the current code released this past week. Not sure where the confusion came from but I asked Jack & Mike and they confirmed it was the same code that was released publicly.

Jack and Mike especially got some nice action going in some of the modes, I managed to ask Mike if he could mention to Lyman about adding the Penguins Quack to crane hits, which Mike said he would mention to him.

Also asked about Villain Vision taunts but unfortunately Mike didn’t know anything about that and couldn’t answer, said BM66 was announced about 2 months before he started at Stern so want fully aware of what was promised/announced.

Really hope they get Villain Vision taunts in the finished code.

4 downvotes? I politely asked because I thought it was something as owners we wanted from the original idea getting 20 upvotes

Seems reasonable to politely ask/request a sfx change that would better immerse the player and add to theme integration, the crane hit sound is very BDK in its sound.

Yeah weird they have all removed now except Chuck but he’s an odd ball at the best of time.

I just thought it odd, as I only asked because of the upvotes the initial idea got, anyway on the positive side of it, I think Mike will pass it on, he was cool with the idea and seemed like he genuinely didn’t mind mentioning it to Lyman so fingers crossed.

Mike and Jack where both awesome on last nights stream answering questions about BM66 and GOTG, can’t priase them enough, they where very interactive answering what they could, great stream!

If your talking about the stream from last night Jack might not have uploaded it yet.

Awesome, now I can finally make my order

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I love the fact Lyman hasnt isolated the modes to their specific shots (something I think BDK suffered from) and has instead incorporated other areas of the playfield in the various modes.

If it doesn’t already exist deeper in the code, I would love to see more of this especially in the Wizard Modes, is it Villain Escape that features all villains?

Have the magnet (joker) catch a ball, crane (penguin) comes out to block the magnet shot, new ball added, now you have to hit the captive ball off the magnet like in ST with the vengeance, but hits to the crane don’t move it in this stage of the mode, ramp shots (cat woman) move the crane but the catch is the villains don’t play fair so a left ramp shot moves the crane one spot to the right, right ramp shots move it to the left (inverted shots - a twist on inverted flippers), once the ball is off the magnet MB starts and the crane then moves to block mode shots and jackpots while the magnet is also active to fight back.

Not sure what purpose the orbits (Riddler) would have, other than maybe an orbit shot sweeping the crane far left or far right (home position) clearing the way for combos and multiple shots/jackpots or have riddler shots active/deactivate SJP at the scoop??

It would just feel great actually battling all 4 areas (villains) of the playfield, having to set them up to get your shot/s in, while they are all working against you.