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Batman 66 - Official Club Thread

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#17251 2 years ago
Quoted from Citizen69:

I didn’t “re-seat” but I made sure all the connections that I saw were pushed in and seated. After inspecting the underside of the play field. I powered the game back on. The crane and turntable seem to be working but don’t last an entire game. Powered off the game. Gave the game several minutes to deplete the capacitors. Powered back on. Turntable starts to reset itself back the start position. Play another game. Crane and turntable functions still can’t last a whole game session. Powered off again. Several minutes later, powered back on. Turntable goes back to start position.
Check me if I’m wrong but this is starting to sound like a main board issue or code. Thinking about reinstalling 1.06 but not a quick install this time.
Thoughts?

If you're the only one with the problem it's probably not code.

Check for operator error messages in the service menu after things glitch out. You could have a bad node board, which you can troubleshoot by swapping similar node boards and setting dip switches on them accordingly (it's a bit of work but worth it if that's the problem). A full re-install of code might be a good idea with this type of quirkiness before heavy experimenting. Your initial errors sounded just like what my friend's game was doing when the carousel was out of alignment and couldn't turn, so I would try to verify that for sure before you do much else.

#17252 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballHaven:

If you're the only one with the problem it's probably not code.
Check for operator error messages in the service menu after things glitch out. You could have a bad node board, which you can troubleshoot by swapping similar node boards and setting dip switches on them accordingly (it's a bit of work but worth it if that's the problem). A full re-install of code might be a good idea with this type of quirkiness before heavy experimenting. Your initial errors sounded just like what my friend's game was doing when the carousel was out of alignment and couldn't turn, so I would try to verify that for sure before you do much else.

Not sure how to check alignment issues. I did check if the screws in the three brackets were tight and they were. The service menu is saying the motors for both the crane and the turntable are showing errors. The original node 4 error I had was resolved from the 1.06 update. There are no other node errors. This is not isolated to the turntable. I did reinstall the code (non-quick method). Problem still occurs.

#17253 2 years ago

Gomez shared some great pictures of Lyman. This pic has two legends that are gone now.

https://www.morizzofuneralhome.com/m/obituaries/Lyman-Sheats/media/viewer/27025577/58d1c720-b184-4225-be55-65f6b725df22

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#17254 2 years ago

Finally after a few years, I have been waiting this machine and now I finally have one, I am in the Batman 66 club! Love this machine! especially the rule set

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#17255 2 years ago
Quoted from TonyScoots:

Love this machine! especially the rule set
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Indeed, it's Lyman Sheats at the top of his game (as he always was), but wow.. if you grew up with Batman 66 as I did, this pin is pure gold!

#17256 2 years ago

Are cliffy’ s really needed on Batman 66 premium or no?

#17257 2 years ago
Quoted from Beez:

Are cliffy’ s really needed on Batman 66 premium or no?

They’re never “needed,” but definitely worth it. Penguin scoop takes a lot of hits, as does the mystery saucer. I guess you could wait until you start to see wear and then get some, but they’re so cheap (compared to most pinball mods/parts) I’d say just get them now.

#17258 2 years ago
Quoted from JStoltz:

They’re never “needed,” but definitely worth it. Penguin scoop takes a lot of hits, as does the mystery saucer. I guess you could wait until you start to see wear and then get some, but they’re so cheap (compared to most pinball mods/parts) I’d say just get them now.

Not bad at all, Just bought a full set, total $86 shipped

#17259 2 years ago
Quoted from Beez:

Are cliffy’ s really needed on Batman 66 premium or no?

For Penguin scoop and shooter lane I'd say yes, the other areas not so much.

#17260 2 years ago

Think it’s time for an update!

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#17261 2 years ago
Quoted from Citizen69:

Not sure how to check alignment issues.

If the carousel is turning at startup and then doesn't 'return' (as I think you described earlier) you might have the same problem we saw. You can run the motor test from the menu with the playfield upright to observe the alignment issue I'm talking about, or put it upright and the power cycle the game if it's errored out. I think you can also disable one or the other motor in the game specific settings menu to trouble shoot one at a time.

The big white gear that the carousel motor engages with will move one direction, but will be out of alignment when it tries to return the other direction and the motor arm won't enter the gear properly.

We were getting the game set up for a tourney and didn't have time to disassemble the entire carousel, so we added washers to the motor mount screws (4 spots) to basically create the clearance the motor arm needed to engage the disc properly.

EDIT: was looking for a picture in the thread to mark up for you and see that someone else used the same fix I did:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/batman-66-official-club-thread/page/262#post-4952941

Hope this helps!

#17262 2 years ago

Hi. Crossposted this in another forum. Brand new Batman 66 and pinball owner. Started to update to 1.06 and the update stalled at 2414GB. Hasn't moved in about an hour. I have no idea whether to turn it off or what. Help.

#17263 2 years ago
Quoted from serranot:

Hi. Crossposted this in another forum. Brand new Batman 66 and pinball owner. Started to update to 1.06 and the update stalled at 2414GB. Hasn't moved in about an hour. I have no idea whether to turn it off or what. Help.

Mine took a few power cycles to complete the update.

#17264 2 years ago
Quoted from gorditas:

Mine took a few power cycles to complete the update.

Mine took one power cycle after hanging up.

#17265 2 years ago
Quoted from Rum-Z:

Mine took one power cycle after hanging up.

Same here.

#17266 2 years ago

I would go to Best Buy and get a new 16gb SDHC class 10 card and do a fresh install.

#17267 2 years ago

Can Batman 66 still be purchased NIB?

#17268 2 years ago
Quoted from Jimmyd044:

Can Batman 66 still be purchased NIB?

No. I believe they did a last run in December and it was fairly limited. I do not think they are doing another production run for the game again but maybe someone has better information than me with that.

#17269 2 years ago

Batman production is done … Final run was in December however … IM IN THE CLUB!!! I have a NIB as of today … still haven’t opened it ))))

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#17270 2 years ago
Quoted from rai:

I’m also wanting to see how to fix the crane alignment, there is a feature adjustment called crane lag (I think it’s #173) but it didn’t do much. I’m still off on the first two inserts.
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Did you find a solution to this? It's not a deal breaker for me but my obsessive compulsion is whispering inside of me.

#17271 2 years ago
Quoted from Citizen69:

Did you find a solution to this? It's not a deal breaker for me but my obsessive compulsion is whispering inside of me.

Not yet, I was hoping someone would walk me through the adjustment, there is a post that shows a screw at the bottom of the crane assembly but I didn't see any instructions on what to do.

#17272 2 years ago
Quoted from DeathHimself:

I would go to Best Buy and get a new 16gb SDHC class 10 card and do a fresh install.

Thanks for all the responses. Two power cycles later and all is well.

#17273 2 years ago

Added the bat signal and magnetic bats above the speakers that docquest sells. Highly recommend. The kids get a real kick out of the bat signal!

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#17274 2 years ago
Quoted from rai:

Not yet, I was hoping someone would walk me through the adjustment, there is a post that shows a screw at the bottom of the crane assembly but I didn't see any instructions on what to do.

There really isn't much to walk through. That screw holds a tab that moves with the assembly through the optos. If you loosen the screw, you can adjust the tab side to side. That controls when the tab enters the optos relative to the entire crane assembly. If you adjust one way, the tab will enter the optos earlier, the other way, the tab will enter the optos later. You'll need to experiment to figure out which direction you need to adjust to center your crane on the inserts - I don't recall offhand.

I did it with my crane - this, combined with adjusting the lag in the menu settings, did the trick.

#17275 2 years ago
Quoted from chewiec:

Does anyone else have an issue with the Ball Saved coming out during play post the update? If I drain one of the balls it ejects after the Ball Save activiates the game will continue playing so I am wondering if it is a software issue that was released in the newest code drop.

For all of those on the most recent update do any of you have this issue? Easiest way to tell is when you get to the minor villain selection screen and you scroll from left to right you should hear the drain or have robin or the villains give you their drain callout. I’ve reached out to Stern but haven’t heard back.

#17276 2 years ago

I’ve joined the CLUB with a New Dec build with the Insider Connected installed from the factory! Very excited about this pin.

Any original Powder coat colors out there or has everyone stayed with black on their armor?

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#17277 2 years ago
Quoted from Beez:

I’ve joined the CLUB with a New Dec build with the Insider Connected installed from the factory! Very excited about this pin.
Any original Powder coat colors out there or has everyone stayed with black on their armor?
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I bought aftermarket armor, and powder coated it with ink black/Rockstar sparkle.

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#17278 2 years ago

Getting this tonight, upper half of playfield is dead!

Any help will be appreciated

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#17279 2 years ago
Quoted from TonyScoots:

Getting this tonight, upper half of playfield is dead!
Any help will be appreciated [quoted image]

Most likely a loose Ethernet cable, which is pretty easy to check. See if there is a cable that isn’t snug around the Node 9 board (diagram from the manual attached)
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#17280 2 years ago
Quoted from JStoltz:

Most likely a loose Ethernet cable, which is pretty easy to check. See if there is a cable that isn’t snug around the Node 9 board (diagram from the manual attached)
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I tried updating from version V0.95.0 to the newest update and I am getting this
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#17281 2 years ago

That’s related to the same problem (node 9 is unreachable).

Going from 0.95 to current s/w requires the node board firmware to be updated which can’t be done if node 9 doesn’t have power or otherwise can’t be found.

Fix the node issue and try the update again.

#17282 2 years ago
Quoted from TonyScoots:

I tried updating from version V0.95.0 to the newest update and I am getting this

Forget about updating at the moment.

Do your node boards have the stabilization kits installed? If your game is old enough, it might not?

https://sternpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Stern-SB189.pdf

If not, the diode may be the issue on your board. The legs are very weak and can break from vibration. It could also be just a loose connector.

The diode is circled in yellow. It looks like a transistor, but 2 legs I think..

Rob

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#17283 2 years ago

From past experiences it looks like your Node 9 is blown and needs replaced. Welcome to Spike 2 ownership.

#17284 2 years ago
Quoted from rai:

Not yet, I was hoping someone would walk me through the adjustment, there is a post that shows a screw at the bottom of the crane assembly but I didn't see any instructions on what to do.<

There really isn't much to walk through. That screw holds a tab that moves with the assembly through the optos. If you loosen the screw, you can adjust the tab side to side. That controls when the tab enters the optos relative to the entire crane assembly. If you adjust one way, the tab will enter the optos earlier, the other way, the tab will enter the optos later. You'll need to experiment to figure out which direction you need to adjust to center your crane on the inserts - I don't recall offhand.
I did it with my crane - this, combined with adjusting the lag in the menu settings, did the trick.

There is also an Allen nut on the back of the crane head that can be loosened and the crane realigned on the motor shaft, if those two adjustments don’t get you where you need to be. I found centering the tab underneath and then bringing the head into position was the only way to get it correct and not trapping balls in the first stop spot.

#17285 2 years ago

Just wanted to post an update on my Batman 66. After speaking with some of you, I was able to fix my issues with both turntable and crane not working/responding properly.

Issue: Turntable and Crane not operating properly. Turntable will stop rotating during game session. Crane also not functioning by not hovering over the correct shot location. After a cold start (Capacitors drained) Turntable will operate initially, but wont last a complete game session. Service log errors showing motors for both turntable and crane throwing errors.

Tried the following: Updated code from 1.05 to 1.06, Checked all cable connections on all boards, Looked for missing/loose screws around turntable mech. Confirmed turntable brackets were flush and level.

Solution: After getting the blessing from Stern (Still Under Warranty), Swapped Node Board 9 and Node Board 8. Made sure node board switches were set based on their new location.

Conclusion: After several days of testing, and many game plays later. The turntable and crane are working.

I appreciate everyone's help on the matter. I intentionally purchased a later (actually last) production game to avoid issues first adopters had on this forum but it looks like they didn't improve on everything.

Thanks again everyone on this site. This is truly an awesome forum.

#17286 2 years ago

Glad to hear that you got it figured out and working.

Enjoy the game!

#17287 2 years ago
Quoted from thundergod76:

From past experiences it looks like your Node 9 is blown and needs replaced. Welcome to Spike 2 ownership.

How do I get a replacement??

#17288 2 years ago

Forget about updating at the moment.
Do your node boards have the stabilization kits installed? If your game is old enough, it might not?
https://sternpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Stern-SB189.pdf
If not, the diode may be the issue on your board. The legs are very weak and can break from vibration. It could also be just a loose connector.
The diode is circled in yellow. It looks like a transistor, but 2 legs I think..
Rob

Not sure Rob, looks ok to me, everything is connected good

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#17289 2 years ago
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#17290 2 years ago
Quoted from thundergod76:

From past experiences it looks like your Node 9 is blown and needs replaced. Welcome to Spike 2 ownership.

Yes, agreed - compare the LEDs (including blinking amber) between Node 9 and 8. If 9 doesn't behave the same as 8, you're most likely looking at a new node board. I've had two pop on Ghostbusters, and one on BM66. Also, my CPU node popped on Ghostbusters, losing its 6v. These things are not cheap.

#17291 2 years ago
Quoted from FlippinJB:

Yes, agreed - compare the LEDs (including blinking amber) between Node 9 and 8. If 9 doesn't behave the same as 8, you're most likely looking at a new node board. I've had two pop on Ghostbusters, and one on BM66. Also, my CPU node popped on Ghostbusters, losing its 6v. These things are not cheap.

Yes on node 9 only get the steady red light that stays on and nothing else! On 8 I get the red light and a blinking amber light

#17292 2 years ago
Quoted from TonyScoots:

How do I get a replacement??

If the machine is still under warranty Stern should send you one for free. If not, I get mine from Pinball Life. Like others have said make sure the dip switches are set in the same position as the ones on the bad board.

#17293 2 years ago
Quoted from thundergod76:

Not sure Rob, looks ok to me, everything is connected good
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With the game off, gently(!) push down on the diode then turn the game back on. See if anything changes.

You're going to definitely need to the node stabilizer kit for your other board.

Rob

#17294 2 years ago

Thank you everyone for the help, looks like node board 9 is shot

Emailed Stern, will keep you posted

#17295 2 years ago
Quoted from TonyScoots:

Thank you everyone for the help, looks like node board 9 is shot
Emailed Stern, will keep you posted

Bah! Bad luck good sir, TonyScoots - if only there were ways to diagnose and repair the issue you described (i.e. one red LED lit) then I would be a richer man. Surface-mount technology... hmm... in my earlier days you just soldered in a new TIP102! I'm simplifying of course, but the repair was usually much cheaper than a new node board.

#17296 2 years ago

Can someone please help me out here. In the machine menu Diag, game, turn, does your turn table go to switch 63 and activate? My goes to 64, 65 , 66 but not 63.

Trying to track down what might be a possible issue.

Thanks

#17297 2 years ago
Quoted from FlippinJB:

Bah! Bad luck good sir, TonyScoots - if only there were ways to diagnose and repair the issue you described (i.e. one red LED lit) then I would be a richer man. Surface-mount technology... hmm... in my earlier days you just soldered in a new TIP102! I'm simplifying of course, but the repair was usually much cheaper than a new node board.

There is a guy I saw on YouTube that fixes all sorts of what I think are SMT boards. Wonder if he’d want a shot at a few bad boards?

He’s fixing Nintendo Switches, Laptop motherboards, Xbox’s, PS5s, etc. he just does it for his channel now, but seems to like to do interesting things for people.

https://youtube.com/c/Tronicsfix

#17298 2 years ago
Quoted from DeathHimself:

Can someone please help me out here. In the machine menu Diag, game, turn, does your turn table go to switch 63 and activate? My goes to 64, 65 , 66 but not 63.
Trying to track down what might be a possible issue.
Thanks

Found my issues for switch 63, cold solder joint on one of the pins for the four pin plug. I just heated them all one at a time and let solder flow again for a good connection.

Switch 63 is now working when the table is turning.

#17299 2 years ago

Anyone got a front cabinet decal for a premium for sale?

#17300 2 years ago

Found this on the playfield yesterday. I have looked and looked and can not find where it belongs. Does anyone know where this clear cap goes on the Batman 66 Premium?

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