There are some people who just have to have a certain theme. It means something to them. Obviously the Alien buyers for instance, they pre-ordered because the theme meant a lot to them, they haven't seen any gameplay, and I'm not judging them, to be clear. I'd be a moron to bitch about them pre-ordering, right?
I imagine Batman is the same, nostalgia or big Batman fan or whatever. Plus however many people just love to order the latest game, or get LEs or whatever, plus however many people are playing the speculation game (I think that's a tough one to win personally). That adds up, I get it.
Still, at least on Alien you knew the price, and you could see CAD of the playfield, the features are mostly known. Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am kinda surprised at how many people are putting down money without any further details. I mean, the price at least, before you put down a deposit?
I assume that they wouldn't say "all new layout" if they only changed a couple things, but keeping the crane toy makes it sound like it's going to be at least partially like TDK. Maybe Gomez had a cool idea that was cost cut from the first game and he gets to do it now, maybe it shoots totally differently, or maybe it's like Rarehero says, inserts and bottom and crane are the same, and then tweak some of the shots.
Totally different rules from scratch from Lyman? Or is he adding onto TDK's rules in some fashion instead?
Just a lot of questions that only have guesses for answers is all. If Lyman did new rules from scratch why didn't they put that as a bullet point? This is a game aimed at collectors, they know how much people love Lyman's rules. If it's updated TDK is that cool with you? I have faith in Lyman, but he's supposed to be programming the next game is the word, right? So how much time did he get to work on it?
I dunno, I'm honestly not trying to be down on Stern, or people pre-ordering, it's all good. It's just pinball. But it bothers me a little because it makes the hobby feel less stable when people are throwing money around on such low information. These price increases are feeling out of control. The speculation feels unhealthy. It's not like Batman 66 leaked (well nothing substantial beyond the idea) Stern was the one who put the Batman stuff on the flyer. They're not a small startup trying to get pre-order cash to operate, why ask for deposits before even revealing the price, let alone pics of the game?
This double LE thing, with the Super LEs? That's cool. I hope they're really decked out, I want to see it. But this luxury level pinball pricing feels bubblish. You know? The sky isn't falling or anything, but it feels like $6500 is becoming the new baseline, and the LE ceiling just keeps raising. What's the high end LE JJP stuff cost? I want to say $9,000 is that right? Stern approaching that on this yet? Are the 30 Super LEs really going to be Jpop priced?
What's the street price on a Ghostbusters Pro, anyone mind sharing? I feel like I've heard $5400, can anyone verify my number? No special pickup deals, normal people shipped to your door price. I don't think this Batman thing is the death of Pros. I'd be surprised if Aerosmith didn't have a Pro model, with color LCD. Think the price will stay stable? Or will it go up a couple hundred?
I spent $7200 on my Metallica LE (HUO) I don't want to be a hypocrite. Spend the money if you want it! You only live once, enjoy it if you have the means. But I don't think I feel like repeating that stunt, it's reached a level where it's feeling ridiculous, I can do a lot of other things with that money. Maybe I'm alone in that, and people are down to just keep opening their wallets. How long will that last if prices keep creeping up?
I hope the game looks great. Buy Alien first, and then go get one if it's great. Maybe this Super LE stuff is a one off thing, 30th anniversary. Just starting to feel a little crazy town.