Correct.......

SLE = $10k by Xmas

I think these machines look good and have a great art package, but the prices are absurd. And I sure don't see the $5k price difference in the LE and SLE. Looks to me like all you are paying extra for is bragging rights. There sure isn't $5k of upgrades.

So much they could have done with this theme and I see all the villains three/four times on the LE on a flat background. Same drawing but mirrored or enlarged.

On the SLE the drawings on the topper are repeated on the front under the coindoor !

Very creative stuff. Why did they not ask the artist that made the originals of these to do some coherent artwork especially for this machine?? It is beyond me why they made the decisions they did. Either they are tasteless or clueless.

edit: do not get me wrong, I think it looks nice, just think it could have been something special

What are the $5000 in differences between the LE and the SLE. ...or even between the Premium and the SLE?

Probably late to the party on this, but jump to about the 32 second mark and this shows you:

It's called a Veblen good.

Amazing and I congratulate all SLE owners who bought what is most likely a grail pin for themselves, at 80 or 200 who cares, it looks beautiful, look forward to playing this.

Don't worry... when it comes to Stern, their spelling mistakes usually aren't that noticeable, anyway...

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I had to look three times to see what you did there.

Cash grab indeed. Very sad where this hobby is going.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if JJP announced their Lawlor game is $6999 tonight? Stern would be shitting themselves.

There are a lot of dopey hypocrites on here that will scream about what a great value a $10k TronLe is at the same time.

Or an 11k AC/DC Bible.

I'll take my BM66LE and know Lyman will make it great

It will be interesting to compare and contrast with Lawlors game and that pricing.

I won't be getting one no matter what. JJP will have 3 different LE versions at 1000 each

I thought you had bailed on Stern recently.

Good to see you back in form.

Agreed.

I'll say this again and you know it's true

If Stern priced this pin at $8500 street with that topper you'd have people street brawling to grab as many of the 240 LEs they could get their hands on

One reason only. Flip it to make a quick $1k. Am I wrong?

That's the worst part of hobby and why I'm paying more now. Can you blame Stern?

Next up Jjp. Whatcha got for us

I don't think they would at all, I'm looking forward to seeing JJP#3 but its no threat to Stern, JJP is not even close to Stern as a company yet.

Love BM66 still don't like the sleazy practices that they all do!

I'd probably head down to the bank and apply for one of those reverse mortgages.

George Gomez said its an actual topps trading card that can be removed if you want to read the back. Some will be landscape orientation some will be portrait. The first 500 games built will be signed by Adam West so im assumimg all SLE an LE games will have them then whatever is left goes to the premiums.

The Fonze did.......

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Haha, this looks wonderfully campy.

He wants his Nip-It back.

How to stop people from flipping pins like GBLE quit making limited edition have a striped down pro and premium they have optional upgrades like art packages, glass Trans, invisiglass, armor etc

Yep. We are our own worst enemies. It's the collectors that allowed this situation to get out of control. Stern is just capitalizing on it. I'm not saying that I necessarily condone their price gouging, but it's kind of hard to blame them.

Aside from the reskin and removal of the teeter totter, seems like a moderate BDK reskin. What does the crane have to do with any of the vintage batman episodes? Nothing. It was the best (only?) liked feature of BDK, but that's it. Sticks out like a sore thumb on a Batman '66 theme.

For 15K I will find a BBB.

Sorry there is nothing on that machine that Justifies 15k even the fact that there are only 80 and will possibly have a different backglass and art changes on each.

No, we all blame JJP for current prices.

This $5 batsignal shown below and the hotwheels batmobile, boat, cycle, and batcopter are on the SLE version. So all easy mods to make your own ghetto SLE.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0762445262/ref=mp_s_a_1_3

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I said this before the pictures and videos were released. It doesn't take a genius to realize it was going to be a BDK VE. And Stern is asking for how much for this game?

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Probably cause they used 4 artists instead of 1 or 2 max. more artists means more artistic styles - where one style is king - if you get it right. Too many bat signals shown if you ask me. Should have used one in right rear of playfield and one on topper. No need to paste them all over.

Does anyone have a feature matrix showing the differences between the 3 models? Is the premium the same as the others without the bling? Is the playfield toys the same etc?

Gary gotta eat, 1000 hamburgers. Yes I can blame them, it is sad. For that money we at least deserve a machine designed from the ground up.

People who keep claiming this is a BDK VE are likely Ironman owners who claim Austin Powers is shitty game.

Probably if they didn't have a 500 limit on GBLE people would have hung back and waited to see the code progression

I mean XMLE sold *mainly* because there were no premium and so people got scared if they missed it, could be like missing Bible or Tron LE. The threat of scarcity helps goose sales.

Also if they threaten to not release a premium that's another tactic Stern has employed or have a horrendously ugly premium option.

Stern wrote the book on sales tactics

Also I'd hope that small LCD is interactive like tspp or TH not just video loops.

Nothing that justifies it to you, I just watched another video and the cab art on the head is some kind of raised plastic in spots, who knows what else is extra for sure as it does say these are production games so while I doubt it will reach 5K worth of a difference I also don't care, Geez are you guys the same bunch who would key a Ferrari because you can't afford one , I can't and feel nothing but admiration and envy towards all those who can, don't buy it.

Ever play BBB - I bet BM66 is way more fun.
BBB is way over hyped due to limited availability - really nice looking machine, but it just is not that much fun to play at all.

Most likely true.

Ha!

How ironic...

Again, like I said earlier, the crappy Joker coffee can is gone, replaced by a rotating platform that will provide different interaction. Code changes no doubt along with that.

A decent change from TDK. Not a quick re-skin like Spiderman.

And I have no issues with the crane staying. Of course it has to be there. It's a great toy.

As an LE buyer, I'm happy with what I've seen so far. Considering that so many people in this thread are wailing about the price, the game's TDK backbone, etc, I'm interested to know how many LE buyers are unhappy they bought already or will ask for refunds from those distributors who offer them. I just want to know if all of the complaining is from people who didn't buy or never intended to buy for whatever reason, or are there a lot of unhappy BM66 purchasers out there.

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Tripling*

Well, I will say that BBB is a much better player than BDK. So that being said, we will see how BM66 plays.

I'm gonna say zero.

Funny how different opinions can be when it comes to art. Lots of love for this one, but it's definitely not for me. Tomdotcom's picture that he posted earlier sums it up nicely.

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Ummm.....I'm honestly trying to remember what a crane has to do with the batman movies, and I cannot think of anything. Is it really just there begins Scarcrow's name is "crane?" I mean that's not exactly a compelling link to begin with

They got Catwoman right, so all is right with the world.

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So, I'm not in on this (yet) for the simple reason I'm still waiting on my GB Premium and RZ. I wasn't sure what to expect since I watched all the shows growing up, but hey there wasn't much on. It's not like these are my favorite shows of all time.

After seeing the pics, they did a great job on the theme, colors, art etc. Since the only one I could possibly get now is the premium (later after I sell something else and save up money) I'm curious to see if it truly has everything the LE has. If it's stripped down in any form for gameplay then I would never buy it on prinicpal (would make it a PRO right?). If it's the exact same on gameplay and if that gameplay looks great later with solid code this could be a fun game.

I won't make a decision until after I get my other games and see how all this shakes out. Oh and Stern really needs to sell the topper as an addon for the premiums. That just looks great...

I think $7600, $9600 and $15,000. Correct me if I'm wrong.

This guy is happy

Now, IF you assume that the minute you open the box on this LE it drops immediately to $8500 on the secondary market because a 240 LE pin is so "overpriced" then everybody else better start grabbing ankles because it's all relative

The rest of our shit is going down too

And you had 400 people who wanted an SLE at that price

Do you price policemen really think demand ain't gonna be there on the secondary market

Better think again

so, I have never played TDK, but comparing the images side by side there really is not much of a difference. Is this really how Stern is marking their 30 years, with a a rehash of a generally unpopular game. Very minimal effort, no original art, a few toys anyone can buy from amazon, and a 20 dollar lcd thrown in. I have pretty much bought into all things stern, but this one bites my bat nuts.

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