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Batman 66 by Stern new info


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#2651 4 years ago
Quoted from rai:

I really don't mind paying a large sum of money but not if the code sucks for a year and may or may not get finished but probably still have some missing features.

You can buy when its complete Rai, or just buy Lyman or Keith pins. No stress that way

#2652 4 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

The pop acts that would do it are just miming to tape anyway.

Yes, tape is often used nowadays.........

#2653 4 years ago

What Vid was referring to earlier with respect to certain companies giving artists a limited number of images and/or looks that they're allowed to use is what's called a Style Guide.

I'm a graphic artist by trade and often I do work for Disney, Dreamworks, and a few other big names with huge, huge properties. They all have them and they all supply them. These companies are extremely strict about the use of their imagery, IP, and copyrighted material. You either use it according to their rules, or not at all. It also helps them identify counterfeit products easier. That being said, they do allow some leeway for customization based on the product it's going on. They do allow certain liberties to be taken by the packaging or label artists, but they still must approve the final product before going into production.

There is a very, very good chance that these images Stern is using were either suggested by the contracted artists, the only ones with high enough resolution to be used in such a large area, or the only ones Stern is allowed to use according to the rights holders. There are plenty of artists out there that could've hand drawn something completely new just for the B66 pin. That much should be obvious. It also simply could've been a cost cutting measure. I'm certain getting new custom artwork for each of the characters would've cost well into the five figure range and most likely around the six figure range. Given the limited number of pins Stern is making overall of the B66, that cost wouldn't have been recouped very well. The added cost per unit would've taken out a huge chunk of their profit. And I'm sorry, but all businesses need to turn a decent profit to stay IN business. They're earning a lot of warm fuzzies for making the B66, but warm fuzzies don't put food on the worker's tables.

Those images shown so far indeed used the same source images seen elsewhere on the model kits or whatever they were. It is extremely easy in Photoshop to take even a finished "uneditable" image and modify it the way they obviously have for their playfield art. They probably had to do most of those modifications simply because of the playfield printing process and the way it processes colors and shading. I've had to do those things with artwork I've received from Disney many times and they're always ok with it.

While it is fantastic art, it would've been nice to see something game-specific, meaning it could've ONLY been used with the game because of a layout feature or something. Batman running around with a pinball over his head, like the bomb from the movie, tucked away in a corner or in the entry to a loop would be super easy to do...

#2654 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Well he did, and they did. Yo Yo

Alex Horley did original art for cab and PF and 2 translites for 300 Rob Zombie games (at Rob's request).

#2655 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

They are selling the 30 SLE's for $15k and people are lined up to buy it.
They have sold all 240 LE's for $10k.
This is a boutique, special anniversary offering. You don't like it, plenty of others do. The "unjustified" price increase?

Yeah, this. If my math is right, that's 2.85 Million of "unjustified" or people aren't going to buy anymore at these prices, etc.

Most of these posts of disappointment in the price are understandable, but doesn't change the fact they all got sold at those prices.

The post about pros would have sold alot at $5k pricing, well, yeah - its $4k less and a much broader buyer group then.

Hell yeah, every one wants a cheaper price. Did Stern make a mistake? Apparently not, they all are selling at those $. Is there less chance of flipping forat profit? Guess so - if all the posts are saying $10k is too high, I doubt those posting are buyers above $10k.

#2656 4 years ago

The fact that you have pages of back and forth on whether it's a photoshop or original is quite telling. The point is if someone is paying $10k-$15k for BM66 we shouldn't be arguing whether or not this is original artwork.

You should look at it and say "Dayyyyuuuummm I ain't never seen that befo in ma life, dat shit is tiiiiight yo!!!"

Not

"Yeah I saw that before on a model kit on Amazon for $31.99"

And yes that's the actual price.

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#2657 4 years ago

I can't wait until they show the other $14,998.00 worth of this machine.

#2658 4 years ago
Quoted from MinusWorlds:

The fact that you have pages of back and forth on whether it's a photoshop or original is quite telling. The point is if someone is paying $10k-$15k for BM66 we shouldn't be arguing whether or not this is original artwork. .

You mean like paying 2-3 grand more than the going price of a new pinball machine to buy a pinball machine that was made 20 years ago?

Maybe some people see value in things besides 'unique'... like value in things they just consider GOOD.

#2659 4 years ago

Love how we have a music producing thread running alongside a b66 thread. And now for the segue........what music will they use for b66? The theme song is great but will get tired. What else is there from the series?

#2660 4 years ago
Quoted from cooked71:

. What else is there from the series?

Surfy, Jazzy, cool stuff:

#2661 4 years ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

You mean like paying 2-3 grand more than the going price of a new pinball machine to buy a pinball machine that was made 20 years ago?
Maybe some people see value in things besides 'unique'... like value in things they just consider GOOD.

I'm not even sure what you are saying but I think it's something to the point of "it's not broke, don't fix it" ? Maybe...

Sure that artwork is good. Not what I would expect from a five figure machine but let's leave it at that for now. I hope they will have some mind-blowing toys then not some reworked already been done crap. Oh wait...that's right. Nevermind that point too.

Good is a relative term, but typically includes the quality of build. In that sense Stern hasn't built a "good" product all year. No argument there. They have major issues.

You see where I'm going here?

Everyone enjoy your $10k-$15k BDKVE.

<mic drop>

#2662 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Surfy, Jazzy, cool stuff:

Nelson Riddle also did the theme song for Route 66. Now wouldn't that be an awesome pin!

#2663 4 years ago
Quoted from cooked71:

And now for the segway

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#2664 4 years ago
Quoted from cooked71:

The theme song is great but will get tired.

I would not mind some new music added to the television soundtrack, but if Stern uses Autotune to produce it - I'm out.

#2665 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Surfy, Jazzy, cool stuff:
» YouTube video

Ok, I can pretend the artwork wasn't stolen from a $10 model box, with that soundtrack I'm in.

#2666 4 years ago

The lego movie Batman theme was dynamite

#2667 4 years ago

Maybe?

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#2668 4 years ago
Quoted from MinusWorlds:

I'm not even sure what you are saying but I think it's something to the point of "it's not broke, don't fix it" ? Maybe...

People paid a premium for MMR not because it was unique... but because they thought it was a good product.

You on the other hand are already discounting a product purely because you think they should have been more unique... instead of deciding if the actual product is any good or not. And by that logic, people shouldn't have been paying top dollar for MMR... considering it's just a copy of existing stuff.

You have this predisposition that because it's expensive, it needs to be more one off, unique, different. How about you actually see the game and the sum of its parts before you think you are gonna drop the mic.

#2669 4 years ago
Quoted from MinusWorlds:

Good is a relative term, but typically includes the quality of build. In that sense Stern hasn't built a "good" product all year. No argument there. They have major issues.

Whatch you talkin bout Minus! They have built a GREAT product in GB. The PF issues are way overblown and being handled as they say "on a case by case basis"

Getting ready to pull the tarp off, grab a beer and flip me some awesome GBLE.

As for the artwork, you haven't seen the whole package and "not what I'd expect from a $10k pin"? You'd like the artist to hand paint every pin, separately, and that ain't gonna happen.

You could probably hire Yeti to create your own one off if that floats your boat. Leroy Neiman is dead so he isn't available.

#2670 4 years ago

As cool as the Batman theme song is, there is one other 60s TV intro song that would make me push play over and over again.

#2671 4 years ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

How about you actually see the game and the sum of its parts before you think you are gonna drop the mic.

Minus ain't dropping any mic, he might drop a load in his pants after he sees the entire package though

#2672 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Surfy, Jazzy, cool stuff:
» YouTube video

I used to have that on vinyl when I was a kid. I like the fact that it has dialog and sound effects from the show in it. But at the same time I wish some of the tracks were music only without the sound effects on top of it.

If you like that CD you should definitely seek out this one:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/cdid/75/batman/

This is a full soundtrack from the 1966 Batman movie by Nelson Riddle. This was put out by film score monthly and is 65 minutes of audio gold for classic Batman fans. I think its out of print so youll have to look for used ones.

If the Stern game doesnt have enough Nelson Riddle in it I will be adding it (assuming pinball browser will work with spike 2.0).

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#2673 4 years ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

People paid a premium for MMR not because it was unique... but because they thought it was a good product.
You on the other hand are already discounting a product purely because you think they should have been more unique... instead of deciding if the actual product is any good or not. And by that logic, people shouldn't have been paying top dollar for MMR... considering it's just a copy of existing stuff.
You have this predisposition that because it's expensive, it needs to be more one off, unique, different. How about you actually see the game and the sum of its parts before you think you are gonna drop the mic.

It's already been dropped, sorry. I can't just go back and pick it up now. I'll look silly.

Quoted from iceman44:

Whatch you talkin bout Minus! They have built a GREAT product in GB. The PF issues are way overblown and being handled as they say "on a case by case basis"
Getting ready to pull the tarp off, grab a beer and flip me some awesome GBLE.

I hate you.

I factor in build quality when I talk about whether I believe a product is good. I disagree it's blown out of proportion. I think it is a major short-term issue (as do many others) and the potential long-term issues are scary.

The first ghosted insert or cracked clear on a BM66 better result in someone's head exploding.

I know I've been pretty aggressive toward Stern lately but I'm a consumer. I believe in being critical in any product I'm spending money on. Let's just say this isn't their year. Even tho they had the audacity to let everyone know August has been their busiest month ever or whatever. Between the quality control, pricing, Hilton's Stern Army BS, lack of communication, KISS code, Facebook Nazism, etc. they've lost a lot of customers.

But Gary keeps giving us the finger...I hate him for making GB. It kills me giving him money. It's like every time I buy a Kanye song. I just want to hurt myself after. I disgust me sometimes. I need to go take a shower with a Brillo pad now excuse me.

#2674 4 years ago
Quoted from MinusWorlds:

It's like every time I buy a Kanye song.

You don't think that all the bad things that happen to you are karma for buying Kayne songs?

#2675 4 years ago

Wow all of the complaints, and how many sterns do you own?

#2676 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

You don't think that all the bad things that happen to you are karma for buying Kayne songs?

I can't help it Vid. He sounds so great with that autotune...

It's amazing, so amazing, it's amazing, I'm amazing, I'm amazing, I'm amazing...

#2677 4 years ago
Quoted from Banker:

Wow all of the complaints, and how many sterns do you own?

One. That's why I'm not complaining.

#2678 4 years ago

Batgirl appearances were special and few. I hope there's a batgirl multiball or batgirl cycle video mode. I wonder if she ever fantasized about sliding down the batpole.

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#2679 4 years ago
Quoted from MinusWorlds:

But Gary keeps giving us the finger...I hate him for making GB. It kills me giving him money. It's like every time I buy a Kanye song. I just want to hurt myself after. I disgust me sometimes. I need to go take a shower with a Brillo pad now excuse me.

Well well, that really disappoints me, you actually buy Kanye's crap! The wardrobe, shoes, everything.

It's good to be critical, no problem, but my last two Stern pins TWDLE and GBLE are kick ass. I hate that others have some PF issues but my GB is excellent quality.

I have a Woz sitting on the other side of the room that looks great, oozes quality and I still like it but its running a bit behind the other two in fun factor.

Quit screwing around and get that GB pin you want!

And F Kanye that POS.

#2680 4 years ago
Quoted from Pinstein:

Batgirl appearances were special and few. I hope there's a batgirl multiball or batgirl cycle video mode. I wonder if she ever fantasized about sliding down the batpole.

I wonder if she slid down Adam's pole?

Batgirl is in plenty of the scenes on the slot machine. I think Cat woman is in there too. There is a new slot with Batgirl and Cat woman!

#2681 4 years ago
Quoted from Banker:

Wow all of the complaints, and how many sterns do you own?

10 + 1 on its way

#2682 4 years ago
Quoted from Banker:

Wow all of the complaints, and how many sterns do you own?

Me? I own one. TRON. And a GB Premium on order. I've owned STLE and METLE as well. STLE was fantastic but didn't get played much and had some issues. METLE I never got into and the clear cracked. It was a pain in the ass getting that taken care of BTW. Never fixed, I think they sent me a promotional item or some BS after like 2 months.

Like I said, as a consumer I have every right to question a product. As much as Stern might not like it. How many of those products I currently own is irrelevant. I have enough experience with pins to know when there is an issue.

I've owned a bunch of Bally/Williams pins too. Out of all the pins I've had you want to guess which was the most trouble free? TRON. I love my TRON machine and besides normal shopping it's been completely maintenance free. So I know that Stern is capable of making a quality product. That's not where they are at right now. Turn a blind eye all you want.

Also most of the people here know me well enough by now to know I'm like 30% serious with my posts and criticism. Maybe 40% if its about BM66.

#2683 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Well well, that really disappoints me, you actually buy Kanye's crap! The wardrobe, shoes, everything.
It's good to be critical, no problem, but my last two Stern pins TWDLE and GBLE are kick ass. I hate that others have some PF issues but my GB is excellent quality.
I have a Woz sitting on the other side of the room that looks great, oozes quality and I still like it but its running a bit behind the other two in fun factor.
Quit screwing around and get that GB pin you want!
And F Kanye that POS.

Just his music and admittedly did watch his wife's porn tape

And I did order a GB Premium, I'm weak Doug, I'm weak!

#2684 4 years ago
Quoted from MinusWorlds:

Just his music and admittedly did watch his wife's porn tape
And I did order a GB Premium, I'm weak Doug, I'm weak!

You are only weak because of Kanye! Please tell me you don't watch the Kardashians. The GB premium was a great move, you will love it, might have a code update by the time you get yours too.

#2685 4 years ago
Quoted from Pinstein:

I wonder if she ever fantasized about sliding down the batpole.

At least she was skinny enough to slide down a pole.......

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#2686 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

You are only weak because of Kanye! Please tell me you don't watch the Kardashians. The GB premium was a great move, you will love it, might have a code update by the time you get yours too.

Jeebus no! I can't stand any of them. I watched the vid years ago. Now I wish it was a knife stabbing her and not Ray J.

#2687 4 years ago

I dunno, with the relative height of the Riddler, it probably would have to be on the backglass if the arrangement the squares were teased from is used, otherwise it'd have to be too far back on the side to give Riddler the relative headroom needed.

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#2688 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

At least she was skinny enough to slide down a pole.......

Those Schumacher costumes are so atrocious.

#2689 4 years ago

Riddle me this... I have four legs, but cannot walk. My balls are handled, sometimes to fault. You power me on to play a game, which may be seen as quite tame. Without seeing my table, you throw down your money to show your able. What am I?

Signed,
The Riddler

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#2690 4 years ago

I think it would also be great if this game had a batcave lower playfield like ACDC. The artwork on the lower pf could be the atomic generator and the targets could be the batcomputer.

#2691 4 years ago

Doesn't it have to have the "bat signal"? Yes it does!

#2692 4 years ago
Quoted from Grg:

I'm with pinstein on this one. Alien will be a great game but the art package does nothing for me at all. However, for those that love sega artwork or a fan of sega starship troopers will think the copy paste look of aliens is awesome.

on a game you havent even seen the finished package? what if bm66 looks great and is mediocre gameplay?

#2693 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

At least she was skinny enough to slide down a pole.......

yeah youd throw her out of bed??

#2694 4 years ago
Quoted from robotron:

on a game you havent even seen the finished package? what if bm66 looks great and is mediocre gameplay?

Sorry Robo, let's just all stop the nonsense. This pin is going to look awesome and will play great. Why?

30th anniversary and Stern doesn't want a POS. And what we know already.

Lyman is doing the coding and it has an LCD. WTF, you guys know 2+2=4. Not that hard to put it together.

#2695 4 years ago

I bought an LE. Art looks great. Why all the fuss?

#2696 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Sorry Robo, let's just all stop the nonsense. This pin is going to look awesome and will play great. Why?
30th anniversary and Stern doesn't want a POS. And what we know already.
Lyman is doing the coding and it has an LCD. WTF, you guys know 2+2=4. Not that hard to put it together.

i dont have skin in this game. hope it is awesome for the people ordering it. i am sitting this one out but watching closely.

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#2697 4 years ago
Quoted from RickThorn:

I bought an LE. Art looks great. Why all the fuss?

What's up Rick Kaneda?

#2698 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Sorry Robo, let's just all stop the nonsense. This pin is going to look awesome and will play great. Why?
30th anniversary and Stern doesn't want a POS. And what we know already.
Lyman is doing the coding and it has an LCD. WTF, you guys know 2+2=4. Not that hard to put it together.

With you on this one Ice, but between this and AlienLE, I'm definitely pushing my allowance ( self imposed) ...bourbon back in the house, however, so feeling good about my decision.....now.....JJP3? ...shit....you have any thoughts?

#2699 4 years ago
Quoted from robotron:

yeah youd throw her out of bed??

When I was 74, I saw Clueless at the theater, and had an instant crush on her.

I had my manager arrange a meeting with her and Bill.

We had some drinks in Bill's apartment and she was all over me.

I became mildly aroused.

Then I was like "Wait a minute, I'm gay!"

Bill says "I wondered what the hell you were doing, idiot".

So we never even made it to bed.

I hit the Strip about 1am, and left her in the care of Mr. Cosby.

#2700 4 years ago
Quoted from MK6PIN:

With you on this one Ice, but between this and AlienLE, I'm definitely pushing my allowance ( self imposed) ...bourbon back in the house, however, so feeling good about my decision.....now.....JJP3? ...shit....you have any thoughts?

This one is first for me. Period. I have been in on AlienLE pre order for a long time, depends on Expo reveal. JJP #3 and Lawlor, no F ing brainer! Any time either Keith or Lyman does the code on any pin it has the chance to be great, the rest is IFFY.

I'll say this though, my GBLE is F ing AWESOME right now!!!

And Vid throws that Clueless pic up and she is the fattest, ugliest batgirl, right? No such thing.

This might end up being a great thread with the bat girls/ladies.

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