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Batman 66 by Stern new info


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#951 4 years ago
Quoted from rai:

Yes but is Scarecrow in the Batman TV show? What's your point *this pin* is about the TV show and Dr Crane is not in the TV show and the Penquine (not Dr. Crane) is driving a crane/wrecking ball?

You need to find more important things to worry about.

#952 4 years ago

Does anyone know if BM66 will be on the Sam or Spike system?

#953 4 years ago
Quoted from thundergod76:

Does anyone know if BM66 will be on the Sam or Spike system?

Spike 2.0
Sam and Spike can't run LCD

#954 4 years ago
Quoted from rai:

I'm interested but with this being the first Big LCD game from Stern I want to see it in action and hope it's great but I'm also looking forward to what Alien and JJP #3 look like.

It's going to be interesting... since it would have been impossible for Gomez to downplay the LCD anymore than he did. I'm not really expecting more than what we have w/ColorDMD of existing titles. They can take their existing rendering model they use.. and just output in color and higher res and call it a day.

#955 4 years ago

Thanks for the info. So LCD upgrades on older titles will probably never happen?

#956 4 years ago
Quoted from thundergod76:

Thanks for the info. So LCD upgrades on older titles will probably never happen?

Yes. I asked that exact question at a show and was told "No" it is not going to happen.
At least not by Stern.

#957 4 years ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

It's going to be interesting... since it would have been impossible for Gomez to downplay the LCD anymore than he did. I'm not really expecting more than what we have w/ColorDMD of existing titles. They can take their existing rendering model they use.. and just output in color and higher res and call it a day.

I'll be shocked if the pinball doesn't take a lot of content from the slot machine. I expect it to look a lot alike, as far as the graphics go.

#958 4 years ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Yeah, that comment made no sense at all.
As soon as the game is ready to ship, it can be sold. For whatever price.
Deposits, if anything, make the flipping even worse, because people can't get a machine (because they are all sold) it demands a higher price.
Basic FOMO in action. FOMO drives the collector market in everything.
rd

I've also been struggling to figure out the logic behind that statement. The only angle I could come up with are those flippers that put a few hundred down on LEs and then sell their place in line so to speak, thus making a quick grand or so with no real skin in the game. Maybe $2K deposits and no pictures might short circuit that a little. With these big deposits and only giving a few LEs to each distributor, Stern may be trying to preclude distributors from allowing the usual suspects to use small deposits to cock-block several LEs each.

That said, the extra scarcity of the pin alone will lead to quick flipping at some point if it's really awesome, just maybe at a later date.

Limiting the game to one per person would probably be more effective, providing Sern and numerous distributors could pull that off.

#959 4 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

I'll be shocked if the pinball doesn't take a lot of content from the slot machine. I expect it to look a lot alike, as far as the graphics go.

Good point..

And on a side note I was in Vegas just the other week.. and noticed a severe lacking of the themed games compared to the past. 80% of stuff was this stupid animal generic themed stuff. WTF is this wild buffalo stuff, etc?? Now I was only in the same 3-4 casinos most of the week, but it was very stark how much generic 'multi-cade' kind of stuff there was. Brands like Hangover, The Big Bang Theory, TWD, WoF, I can recall... but it was almost HARD to find a slot that was something interesting to check out.

#960 4 years ago

Check out the slot machine video assets for Batman. They have a ton of material to work with.

As for why would anybody jump in before you see it?

1) Read the flyer, what's not to like?
2) My last 3 Stern pins are AC/DC prem, TWDLE and GBLE

I'm pretty happy!!!

#961 4 years ago
Quoted from BillySastard:

Or, perhaps, you could talk about pinball?

Done that before and got shotdown

#962 4 years ago
Quoted from Arcade:

Spike 2.0
Sam and Spike can't run LCD

Well, they CAN, just not natively. Color DMD works fine. Stern could do that if they were so inclined.

#963 4 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

Well, they CAN, just not natively. Color DMD works fine. Stern could do that if they were so inclined.

Color DMD is not Full motion video being run fully in game code either.
I asked the question myself and was told by Stern that the current Spike system could not do what they needed.
It had to be upgraded to a Spike 2.0
I wish they were fibbing, but I doubt it.
I'm sure someone will come up with a work around some day.

#964 4 years ago
Quoted from Arcade:

Color DMD is not Full motion video being run fully in game code either.
I asked the question myself and was told by Stern that the current Spike system could not do what they needed.
It had to be upgraded to a Spike 2.0
I wish they were fibbing, but I doubt it.
I'm sure someone will come up with a work around some day.

Talking about adding color to recent Sterns retroactively, given the coarse resolution of the screen, relatively speaking, a color DMD solution replacing frames as they come would work, even on full video, so the SAM/Spike limits don't really matter. And, since Stern has the source for all these (some of the recent ones were probably created in color, then made monochrome) it wouldn't be like they'd have to color each frame.

Going forward, they could have done a colordmd type thing without upgrading spike, even with a screen 3 or 4x as pixel-dense, and it still wouldn't have been a problem. If they're going the JJP route with a giant screen, then I can see why they just made spoke 2.0 and called it a day. That's too many pixels for a colordmd type solution.

#965 4 years ago

It's already been stated they are using a 15.6 inch display in the speaker panel so it will be the same size as a atman forever display . I am curious what resolution they will be able to display with the spike 2. Probably something like 384x192 max

C

Quoted from vireland:

Talking about adding color to recent Sterns retroactively, given the coarse resolution of the screen, relatively speaking, a color DMD solution replacing frames as they come would work, even on full video, so the SAM/Spike limits don't really matter. And, since Stern has the source for all these (some of the recent ones were probably created in color, then made monochrome) it wouldn't be like they'd have to color each frame.
Going forward, they could have done a colordmd type thing without upgrading spike, even with a screen 3 or 4x as pixel-dense, and it still wouldn't have been a problem. If they're going the JJP route with a giant screen, then I can see why they just made spoke 2.0 and called it a day. That's too many pixels for a colordmd type solution.

#966 4 years ago

It'll either be 1366x768 or 1920x1080.

#967 4 years ago
Quoted from benheck:

It'll either be 1366x768 or 1920x1080.

At half height? Seems strange.

#968 4 years ago

Why revealing a new game for november with no pic? Still conception time?

#969 4 years ago

You can make a LCD monitor work on any pinball, even early SS. all you need is a processer (Raspberry Pi) and collect the data from the display output port and generate a video output based on the data you receive. the Raspberry Pi will give you up to 1920x1080 video resolution. If Stern is truly going to a Spike 2.0 then they are just adding a video processer on the main board to facilitate this process. Based on most of the spec's of video processers they will be able to drive multiple video displays with one processer.

#970 4 years ago
Quoted from RocketPin:

You can make a LCD monitor work on any pinball, even early SS. all you need is a processer (Raspberry Pi) and collect the data from the display output port and generate a video output based on the data you receive. the Raspberry Pi will give you up to 1920x1080 video resolution. If Stern is truly going to a Spike 2.0 then they are just adding a video processer on the main board to facilitate this process. Based on most of the spec's of video processers they will be able to drive multiple video displays with one processer.

You (or someone) should make a plug and play adapter.

Using a LCD would be cheaper than a new DMD and would provide an option to the Sega guys with the large unobtainium DMDs.

rd

#971 4 years ago

I will look into it in between rocket launches. we have had a busy year. of course with the mishap things might so down (not).

#972 4 years ago
Quoted from colonel_caverne:

Why revealing a new game for november with no pic? Still conception time?

I guess to beat JJP #3 for the big fish dollars.

#973 4 years ago
Quoted from rotordave:

You (or someone) should make a plug and play adapter.
Using a LCD would be cheaper than a new DMD and would provide an option to the Sega guys with the large unobtainium DMDs.
rd

http://www.drpinball.co.uk/dmdextender.htm

#974 4 years ago

Perfect!!!

#975 4 years ago

Well, there you go!

rd

#976 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

My last 3 Stern pins are AC/DC prem, TWDLE and GBLE

And the other side of that coin was Badbilly who bought AVLE, XMENLE and then said I'm done NIB!!

Love my HOU AC/DC premium & HOU TWDLE though with Met Premium on the way. I've opted to wait based on past stumbles.

But love this theme!

#977 4 years ago
Quoted from rai:

I'm interested but with this being the first Big LCD game from Stern I want to see it in action and hope it's great but I'm also looking forward to what Alien and JJP #3 look like.
It's going to be an interesting end of the year pinball season.
I'm sure Stern is glad GB was so well received after people had been looking for a LCD for a while, ST is almost 3 years old and some were hopeful that would have had a LCD display

JJP#3 won't hit the docks until 18 months from now.

#978 4 years ago
Quoted from Methos:

JJP#3 won't hit the docks until 18 months from now.

Are these Earth months or some other month with which I am unfamiliar?

#979 4 years ago
Quoted from Methos:

JJP#3 won't hit the docks until 18 months from now.

You know something I don't know ?

LTG : )

#980 4 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

You know something I don't know ?
LTG : )

He knows many people are still waiting on their pre-ordered Hobbits for 3 plus years. I believe that fact alone warrants the 18 month estimate.

#981 4 years ago
Quoted from GravitaR:

He knows many people are still waiting on their pre-ordered Hobbits for 3 plus years

A lot has changed in the last year. And Hobbits are really rolling now.

LTG : )

#982 4 years ago
Quoted from GravitaR:

He knows many people are still waiting on their pre-ordered Hobbits for 3 plus years. I believe that fact alone warrants the 18 month estimate.

No insider info, just a guess based on historical patterns.

If I had to bet, I would say it would be greater than 18 months, but I'll throw the stake in the gound at a year and a half.

#983 4 years ago
Quoted from Methos:

just a guess based on historical patterns.

The problem is your historical patterns start two years before the investors came in.

Things have changed.

LTG : )

#984 4 years ago
Quoted from badbilly27:

And the other side of that coin was Badbilly who bought AVLE, XMENLE and then said I'm done NIB!!
Love my HOU AC/DC premium & HOU TWDLE though with Met Premium on the way. I've opted to wait based on past stumbles.
But love this theme!

Thank goodness I didn't like those themes, I've been pretty lucky so far.

I've got all the dust covers off, pins lit up tonight, making the rounds, watching football and throwing back some cold ones. It's heaven!

I'll tell you what, after playing my GBLE for quite awhile and stepping away from TWDLE, holy crap, I'll take the flipper gap ALL f ing day over the outlanes on TWD.

Good lord its a brutal pin, its kind of like the amusement park basketball hoops game where the ball barely fits through the hoop, the inlane on TWD is freaking joke!

Gotta love pinball! And GBLE is a great f ing pin too.

Can't wait for Batman ladies.

#985 4 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

I'll be shocked if the pinball doesn't take a lot of content from the slot machine. I expect it to look a lot alike, as far as the graphics go.

Any pics of the slot machine?

#986 4 years ago
Quoted from TKDalumni:

Any pics of the slot machine?

you tube

#987 4 years ago
Quoted from TKDalumni:

Any pics of the slot machine?

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#988 4 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

The problem is your historical patterns start two years before the investors came in.
Things have changed.
LTG : )

Well, I did that them into account. If #3 was at the mercy of positive cash flow, that would be a whole different story.

#989 4 years ago

Look at the show clips from the slot machine on you tube.

That is a sample of what's going in the pin. Giddy up!

#990 4 years ago

Mr. 68 predicts Pat Lawlor's game, JJP #3, will be unveiled at the Chicago Expo this October.

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#991 4 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

The problem is your historical patterns start two years before the investors came in.
Things have changed.
LTG : )

So it was cash flow?

#992 4 years ago
Quoted from PW79:

So it was cash flow?

That's what they said, "cash flow". Investors followed.

ala Stern, sinking ship, Investors followed.

#993 4 years ago
Quoted from rotordave:

You (or someone) should make a plug and play adapter.
Using a LCD would be cheaper than a new DMD and would provide an option to the Sega guys with the large unobtainium DMDs.
rd

Guys already do this.. both ColorDMD and the MikeD(?) assembled SmartDMD

#994 4 years ago

I was just in Vegas and played the slot. The package is pretty slick even though I'm not big on video slots.

#995 4 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

The problem is your historical patterns start two years before the investors came in.
Things have changed.
LTG : )

Things may have changed, but as the saying goes, the proof is in the pudding.

No doubt that Hobbit's are rolling off the line at a pretty good clip these days, but couldn't the same have been said for WOZ prior to Hobbit?

All we have to go on is history. Based on JJP's history, guessing that JJP's pin #3 won't be shipped for 18 months from now is actually a bit optimistic, if anything.

Having said that, nobody would be more happy to be proven completely wrong than me. I love my Hobbit LE and am really looking forward to seeing Lawlor's pin.

#996 4 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

All we have to go on is history. Based on JJP's history, guessing that JJP's pin #3 won't be shipped for 18 months from now is actually a bit optimistic, if anything.

If that's true Rob, then that's F ed and they better sell a whole bunch more of TH's.

I'm guessing shipping by 1st quarter of 2017.

#997 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

If that's true Rob, then that's F ed and they better sell a whole bunch more of TH's.
I'm guessing shipping by 1st quarter of 2017.

I hope you are right!

.........but I doubt it.

#998 4 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

All we have to go on is history. Based on JJP's history, guessing that JJP's pin #3 won't be shipped for 18 months from now is actually a bit optimistic, if anything.

But we also have the history that PLD is involved and knows how to deliver a finished game to the factory's doorstep to build.

But we also have the history that Jack thought Pat's game could have been revealed LAST fall. If there is anything less than a production ready proto at Expo... people should be praying the hammer doesn't fall. No way they can see the black in the future when every game is going to take 3+ years to get games to production.

#999 4 years ago

Expo is only a month away. I'd have to think there's a decision already about whether JJP3 will be there. My gut feels like it won't be, Hobbit needs more time to sell through.

I'm an interested buyer for JJP3, so I had to weigh when I thought it might be coming against a decision to get Batman.

In the end, I'm betting JJP3 will not be at expo and will not be here anytime soon, which then puts a Batman in my collection.

#1000 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

That's what they said, "cash flow". Investors followed.
ala Stern, sinking ship, Investors followed.

Thats so weird because I seem to recall anyone making that assumption during the years of delays was accused of "libel" commentary & threatened with legal action.

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