I am routing for you to be right Zen, it would be great to see some Gameplay or a promo video of some kind before the holidays.

details details...

Only one man can know for sure...

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Stern is opulent, pay after release, why would they be in a hurry AFTER they have your money? Stop paying them then you might get service or the company will go away as it should.

what is the problem with the cat women art

The ramp flaps on the play field cover her head

Pics are buried in the thread somewhere

There are some other pictures, but this is one I found. I believe the other ramp flap is even worse.

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nice legs, a good full hip is always appreciated, her head being cut with the flap needs to be fixed

is it just me or does Catwoman have a banana in her pants?

I wouldn't turn that artwork in on a 7th grade paper.

Stern is so arrogant and people are buying the pin either way, they could just as well say we are not fixing the art and so many people would still buy the pin.

Look at the BG ramp on TWD LE, Wolverine on XMLE, Hulk on Avengers (so many little details Stern just doesn't give a darn about).

I got burned on XMLE. It was a decent game, but there was ZERO reason to preorder that pin. (I can say that about every Stern release since) basically the only LE that has been worth ordering was Tron and AcDc and on AcDc you still have to contend with the cloudy window.

Maybe she is just happy to see you

Unreal what Stern gets away with. Stop buying games like this. I can't believe someone would spend this kind of money sight unseen or without even playing a single game. Wow, just blows my mind, I guess if you earn easy money then easy go right. Not me, I work hard for every cent and I'll be damned if I'm giving any of it to Stern for these weak ass efforts. Peace out to all you rich MF's, enjoy your games.

Sad... The artwork is comparable to something I could whip up as a cheap collage of crap I found on the web using Photoshop for maybe an hour half blind. Will leg levelers be an extra upgrade option on these as well? Or is that just for the Pro models? Why no gameplay video yet? It's ridiculous. Especially since they've made a Batman game how many times now? Should have been a walk in the park for them. Then again, so should non-ghosting play fields, after 30 years in the industry.

Can we wait to see the production games before we get our titties in a twist about ramp flaps?

Absolutely not. (Sarcasm)

If they fix the issues, people will still whine about something. Anything.

It's the nature of the internet, not just pinball.

Much too logical......doesn't belong in this ( or any non-tech) thread....

True. But if stern Gets the right to raise their prices beyond belief, then we deserve the right to critique it; whether it's for the good or the bad. They've put their own microscope on themselves with these price increases and playfield issues. So for the most part, the criticisms on this title have been spot on.

The criticisms of non-flipping prototype game shown 3 months ago that was filled with 3d printed parts?

All I'm saying is temper the outrage, it gets embarrassing that these are our problems.

I think it's embarrassing they don't have a flipping prototype, they've made Batman and Spiderman pinball games so often over the years they could probably do it blindfolded in their sleep overnight if they wanted to.

Catch-22. If nobody complains, Stern assumes that there is no issue and releases things without changes. If people complain about something, fanboys whine about the complaining and their complaints get passed off as an extreme example of Internet whining. I think that those complaining would rather that Stern fix the problems, however. Fanboys aren't interested in a better product as much as going into white knight mode.

If you're spending $15,000 on something that is arbitrarily far more expensive than it should be, then I think that you have a right to complain about every bit of sloppiness.

I specifically remember the Stern Facebook guy replying to someones comment about the misspelling of "reinforcment" on the playfield of GB. The reply was that those were prototype playfields and that error would be corrected on the production version.

We all know how that worked out, right?

Funny, I don't see the guys who actually spent the $15k on this pin that you make reference to complaining much at all.

I'm lmao right now.

The ramp flap partially covering the top of Cat Woman's head! Omg, the horror, I'm not sure I can enjoy the pin now.

When you get your game just cut off the bottom portion of the ramp. Problem solved.

Of all the things to cry wolf about, this ain't it imho.

Like how about Stern putting a 2017 price hike across the board, including "existing inventory" in the warehouse and distributors hands now.

Are any of them them saying anything at all? I'd be quiet about that decision too...

True. But the incessant whining has been going on wayyy before Stern put the prices up. Some people just aren't happy unless they're complaining about something.

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While we wait for video here are some photos of the SLE I took at Expo. I really liked embossed foil cabinet and head decals.

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Looks amazing!!

Nothing to complain about here. Just waiting for it to show up so I can set it up and see my customers playing it.

I don't get excited until a game hits the floor. ( learned patience as a test operator )

Depending on when it gets here, I was thinking a small private launch party. Give my regulars a treat.

LTG : )

It looks phenomenal! They did a great job on the art package.

I'm really excited about this pin. I think Lyman knocks it out of the park again.

Will be exciting to see what he does with the video assets too

True. But there are also a lot of people going to bat for this pin without seeing gameolay, sounds, call outs, or code. But I totally agree, there are people who will bitch and whine no matter what, and most of those peeps have never night a stern nib.

Me personally, the cat woman head cut off from ramp flap doesn't bother me one bit, but you have to admit it's an oversight. An oversight that shouldn't give the green light on a $7500 mass production pin. But like frolic said, we haven't even seen the final game.

I'm in pretty much at 10k ( still substantial$$$) for an LE, and I'm not complaining. The LE is stunning, as well, in person, and just anxious to play the game. Going to be a good January.....

Ditto!!!

With people like you posting the types of things you do in this thread, many of which are nothing more than trying to shame people who bought the SLE, would you really expect many of them to post in this thread? So you can point out how foolish they are? And tell them how to spend their money?

I have to admit, that SLE looks amazing. Whoever did the graphic design is really proficient at Photoshop, a true talent indeed. The cabinet work looks awesome with the foil decal work. Not to mention the Jensen audio system - that's an audiophiles choice right there. Great job Stern!

Lets hope the fun starts in January. It wouldnt surprise me if the delays stretch out into Feb or Mar.

I think it looks great but the big thing is going to be the LCD and the mini LCD with the villains taunting you during play, I know we have several LCD pins already but this the first theme for me that I'm actually excited to see the video, well until Alien comes out. Congratulations to all the SLE owners its a thing of beauty.

They want to announce Aerosmith and have a full slate for 2017. Gotta believe Jan is it for delivery!

They will use CES as the event to launch Areosmith!

Wow. Tidbits of info and some amazing photos of the game but holy sheep shat! Some people on here need to get over themselves.
I get that not everyone is thrilled about this pin, or maybe the pricing, or whatever. That's fine. Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
Thinking that your opinion is worthy of dominating a 128 page thread, droning on and on, spewing hate, in a thread that's celebrating this pin? It's past sad, all the way through pathetic. Possibly nearing "time to seek help".

Pin looks A-mazing! LE and SLE are out of my price bracket but once Lyman gets his code into it, I could see myself losing sleep, the night before picking up a Premium version from the distributor.

BM66 looks nice, but still waiting to see video of game play. In the meantime, some good deals have appeared on Pinside. Can't help noticing that for the same price of BM66 SLE, a buyer could have chosen three of the following pins (all HUO & most came with mods) - BDK, LOTR, SM, Transformers LE , XMEN LE and IM. Nice to see many full-featured and well-respected titles are still within reach.

If the solution is that easy why hasn't Stern done it?

They may have too but we'll just have to wait till Jan. to find out.

Tell us more about how back in July Stern definitely fixed all the playfield issues. You certainly repeated that enough in other threads.

If Stern wants to change the narrative around this game, they need to get out there with new info, new pictures, and new video to stir up excitement. As it stands now, it still hasn't been played by anybody outside of a very small handful of people, the existing pictures are supposedly only of non-production prototypes, and we know very little about what the game is going to do in regards to code and integration with features. If these things are supposed to be shipping real soon, there's no reason why they can't share a few things to control the message around the product a bit more.

And it's not just a Batman '66 thing. Stern does a pretty bad job at controlling the narrative around their products, especially around game launches. Ghostbusters was launched amid tons of rumors of "something must be wrong" or "Stern is hiding something with this one." They go silent for such long stretches that it shows that they either have a lack of confidence in their product or they lack a basic awareness of how product launching and marketing works. Based on George's enthusiasm, I assume it's the latter, because Jody is a dolt.

Looks like Stern posted a pic of production playfield.. flap still covering the head.. but I think its positive change, and will detract from the small amount of the head you cant see

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Gameplay Video is posted. You have to send in a video to explain why you should be lucky enough to see it... and $25 early SLE viewing fee.

Little shop of games has a BM66.

What ZenTron said. Batman 66 video stream will be Fri., Dec. 30 @ 5pm CST (6pm EST) live from the Stern factory via Dead Flip.

Jack Danger confirmed this again just today.

Jar, the problem in this particular thread is that we BM66 SLE and LE buyers didn't appoint you as our consumer reports representative and you're not Stern's Ombudsman. You've made your same points over and over to help save us from Stern. But, your constant wailing about Stern seems fringe to us, or as Chambahz wrote, "time to seek help." We get it, you're outraged at Stern for a number of reasons. There are some other threads dedicated specifically to that, including one that you started, I believe. However, your efforts in this thread seem purposefully calculated at draining the joy from BM66 buyers.