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I am still new here and reading a lot but I wanted to x-post this from the Demoman Club since the owners there have probably never seen such a sad machine...
Background:
I have restored an EM Snow Derby with a lot of help from the EM guys, tuned up a Big Guns working really nice, smooth and fast and restored neglected Middle Earth, but this is my biggest challenge yet. An OP had this tucked away for about 5 years in a storage space and we decided to scoop it. Its going to need work but DMD machines up in Canada are $2.5k all day, so we got it at a bargain - Boards light but no one is home.
This is my first WPC based hardware machine and it’s a bit of a head scratcher… so if you guys can be patient with this formerly-routed machine, anything would help
Visual Inspection
1. Cabinet looks good/decent, just really dirty
2. Playfield is really nice, a few cracked plastics but everything appears to be there, just dirty.. ramps could use a good cleaning
Electronic Inspection
1. Game doesn’t boot
2. Initially, boards get power, everything including PF has the red LED,
3. No DMD
4. DMD Controller board is toast but still puts out -126v, -116v, 64v, 12.4v and 5v
5. Noticed there is a Peter Chou PSU inside the cab and it appears to be wired into the 5v section of the MPU board. The PSU has a Williams sticker on it.. is this supposed to be here?
6. Also in the bottom cab, there is a harness going from the transformer and is split with 2 molex connectors.. it looks like it should plug in to each other but the machine seems to work with it unplugged, is it some trouble shooting harness? there is nothing connected to these so they are left disconnected.. What is supposed to connect to this?
I played around with the additional Peter Chou PSU and after reading something about WPC, they need 5v to boot, and I did get the machine to boot!!'
GI lights solid and I have to press the coindoor service buttons to fumble my way past the system errors to get into attract mode. I think im there but the VUk seems to keep kicking every 12-15 seconds.. am I in some test mode? I'm blind without any displays...
1. No DMD
2. Game boots, there are sounds from the coin up and I can get into test mode, but its blind with no dmd
3. Attract mode works
4. Got 5 balls in the trough and credit-up, GAME STARTS!
5. All sounds work
6. MPU board along those 3 leds, the top one goes out and the 2nd one starts blinking like normal Williams games when in play. Anything else I should look at here?
Now the weirdness,
1. The game starts and the launch ball button doesn’t work – the right trigger launches the ball.
2. The ball will launch and a couple coils go off on impact,
3. Sometimes the right side VUK just goes off by itself and repeats after 15 seconds for a while , Sometimes the VUK going off kicks the game to reboot..
4. The right side kickback autofire thing went off for ball 2 and it looks like the power going to the coils ends up resetting the mpu and the game restarts back into attract mode, so the ball is in play, but and a coil reacts and gi lights go out and then come back in attract mode.
5. Coils don’t seem to hold
Uh.. I know this probably reads worse than it is, but I guess first is
1. What’s the loose harness for in the cab? It’s by the transformer, look like 9 pin square molex harnesses,
2. Uh, I have no idea if my dmd is really bad or not, but the DMD controller HV section looks rough.. I could retrace it, but it does get hot when the machine is on but still puts out -126v, -116v, 64v, 12.4v and 5v when tested at the DMD pins after the harness.
If you read this far, here are the pics of the finds!!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bxaUgpZPPaJE7yVm1
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