(Topic ID: 248388)

Basic Color Matching Pain Question- Pics Inside

By sataneatscheese

2 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 14 posts
  • 8 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 2 years ago by sataneatscheese
  • Topic is favorited by 3 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

Topic Gallery

View topic image gallery

20190802_194605 (resized).jpg
20190801_064556 (resized).jpg
15645710737167554138634392625596 (resized).jpg
15645332897178645752403100699644 (resized).jpg
ppooll (resized).jpg
20190730_073050 (resized).jpg
20190730_073116 (resized).jpg

#1 2 years ago

Okay, I'm doing my first bit of "mixing" to match a color on a pinball cabinet. I am no artist. I am confused as to why I cannot get the color to match here. I am painting over some mis-matched paint on a slightly faded White Water cabinet, and cannot seem to get the paint "blue" enough. I understand you start with blue and then add white to make it lighter and black to make it darker. Why is mixing a small amount of black paint with the blue not working here? I'm using Acrylic gloss paint from Michaels (it's not going under the glass). Any basic advice would be greatly appreciated.

20190730_073050 (resized).jpg20190730_073116 (resized).jpg
#2 2 years ago

Try this, it will give you a good starting point: https://www.goldenpaints.com/mixer

By screen-grabbing an area from your photo I got RGB of 20 / 49 / 143 and it suggests their ultramarine blue with a bit of titan buff (using "High Flow" colours).

#3 2 years ago

blue is a primary color. So, no amount of mixing is going to make it more blue. For that reason I have several blues, reds and yellows.
That said, you look close to a Cobalt Blue.
You don't need to limit yourself to gloss offerings. You can get a clear gloss to put over any color to make it gloss.

#4 2 years ago
Quoted from brenna98:

blue is a primary color. So, no amount of mixing is going to make it more blue. For that reason I have several blues, reds and yellows.
That said, you look close to a Cobalt Blue.
You don't need to limit yourself to gloss offerings. You can get a clear gloss to put over any color to make it gloss.

Okay... got 5 more blues and some gloss sealer over lunch. Hopefully one of these with a little blue or white in it will make it right. I don't really understand how it will make a difference, but that's why I'm asked you guys.

ppooll (resized).jpg
#5 2 years ago
Quoted from sataneatscheese:

Okay... got 5 more blues and some gloss sealer over lunch. Hopefully one of these with a little blue or white in it will make it right. I don't really understand how it will make a difference, but that's why I'm asked you guys.[quoted image]

Mixing the blues together to get closer to the blue you want is the best bet.
While the theory that adding white will lighten and adding black will darken sounds solid it doesn’t actually work that way on many colors.
As a painter we would tint with similar colors to get the desired shades. So on a blue if you want to darken add a darker blue. If it needs to be more purple add some red.Greener add a little yellow and on and on.
There is an art to it that is hard to convey but don’t get lost in the simplicity of black and white.

#6 2 years ago

I match only using primaries. I find that most colors need yellow added as they get old. I also use a pallette and try a small amount in varying degrees before mixing in any quantity. Patience and you can match any color to be unnoticeable.

#7 2 years ago

most of those blues that you would find at michaels already have some other primary color mixed into them, this is why when you tint with white or mix with other hue of blue you get something unexpected - sometimes greenish, sometimes reddish, seldom just a darker shade or lighter tint of blue

tough to mix with those

#8 2 years ago

You could go to Lowe's or Home Depot or Walmart and grab a handful of paint color chips. Take them home and find the one that matches as close as you can find. Both Lowes and Home Depot will make you a sample size container for around $3.00.

I remember reading on pinside where some one carted in his back box and got color match that way.

#10 2 years ago

Closer...

15645332897178645752403100699644 (resized).jpg
#11 2 years ago
Quoted from brenna98:

blue is a primary color. So, no amount of mixing is going to make it more blue. For that reason I have several blues, reds and yellows.
That said, you look close to a Cobalt Blue.
You don't need to limit yourself to gloss offerings. You can get a clear gloss to put over any color to make it gloss.

Adding the gloss enamel on top makes a big difference. Much closer but not there yet. Thanks for the tips everyone.
15645710737167554138634392625596 (resized).jpg

#12 2 years ago

Often those cheap paints from Michael's don't have very much pigment in them as that is the expensive part of paint. This is especially true with yellows and oranges and they aren't bright enough orbsre too transparent. No amount of white or black will make a color richer, you often need a paint with more pigment load. Blue isn't as expensive to make though so you can often get a good one for less.

#13 2 years ago
Quoted from ArcadeRaid:

Often those cheap paints from Michael's don't have very much pigment in them as that is the expensive part of paint. This is especially true with yellows and oranges and they aren't bright enough orbsre too transparent. No amount of white or black will make a color richer, you often need a paint with more pigment load. Blue isn't as expensive to make though so you can often get a good one for less.

Yes. Completely agree. In my opinion Createx is the lowest quality that is acceptable and what I use. There are better brands available however.

#14 2 years ago

Thanks guys! Backbox looks great!

Before I got it and after my touch up. Gloss enamel top coat is the key.

20190801_064556 (resized).jpg20190802_194605 (resized).jpg

Hey there! Got a moment?

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run thanks to donations from our visitors? Please donate to Pinside, support the site and get anext to your username to show for it! Donate to Pinside