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Banzai Run Playfield Set Swap

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3 years ago


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#1 3 years ago

Documenting a Banzai Run playfield set swap for 80spit machine. He has a really nice playing machine and is having me swap the playfields he got from Mirco a few years back. They look really nice and will go along with their new plastic set. It’s in good shape and pretty clean. There’s a few issues we’re aware of but nothing major. A couple of brackets are wrong so he has correct ones we’ll be installing.

He’s giving me carte blanche on it. So we will replace anything broken or wear items. I will go with new targets and switches and try and add some subtle color changes here and there. The main ramp looks to be replaced and in good nick so will be reused. I love to use TaylorVA rails and would use them if he was doing them right now. The ones here are good so will get reused.

Gerry will be redoing his cabinet while these are getting swapped. It should be a really nice restoration when he’s finished.

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#2 3 years ago

Here’s some of the parts that need to get removed from the ends to mount to rotisserie.

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#4 3 years ago

Karolina was checking it out as she’s the quality control supervisor. She must’ve had a hard day sleeping as usual.

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#5 3 years ago

Top side tear down pics 1:

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#6 3 years ago

Top side tear down pics 2:

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#7 3 years ago

Top side tear down pics 3:

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#8 3 years ago

Top side tear down pics 4:

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#9 3 years ago

Top side tear down pics 5 of 5:

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#10 3 years ago

Here's the post heights. Detailed locations at this post: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/banzai-run-playfield-set-swap#post-6156808

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#11 3 years ago

The top side is mostly cleared. Actually I ran out of time so this was a good stopping point. This is the second square drive screw I've found and there's been a few more I've spotted such as the ramp sign. Either some of you Canadians had this or someone worked for SMED? Wonder if anyone even heard of them.

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#14 3 years ago
Quoted from 80spit:

Dave
Man you didn't waste any time, Your right, I bought this from a nice Canadian fellow, brought it down to Allentown about 4 or 5 years ago. I knew you were ready for a challenge on this one, don't make me hurry up and get the cab done LOL

LOL, very cool! I was looking forward to digging into this. It won't go nearly as quick as some others. That's for sure!

#15 3 years ago

Bottom side tear down part 1

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#16 3 years ago

Bottom side tear down part 2

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#17 3 years ago

Bottom side tear down part 3

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#18 3 years ago

Bottom side tear down part 4 of 5

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#19 3 years ago

Bottom side tear down part 5 of 5. All stripped down.

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#20 3 years ago

T nut count is (4) 8-32 for top side (hinges) and (34) 6-32 on the bottom.

I use old tumbler bearings (one of many tumblers that died) with felt on and a large washer with a hex screw to run in T nuts. After a few playfields it’s time to trash the felt and screw for new ones.

In this case the 8-32’s barrels were a touch too large to fit so opened them up. I use kruzman clear kit drill gauge to measure the barrel and found I needed a 15/64” drill.

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#21 3 years ago

Here’s one minor difference. There is three separate holes in the new one here to adjust. I’ll skip the t nut and go with a washer and nut.

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#22 3 years ago

Light boards are dry after ultrasonic and get mounted. Holes for these look great.

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#23 3 years ago

First batch of parts are ready. I try and organize the parts when they’re done to speed up assembly. I can see why the pros use new hardware. Taking all the time to pick thru and dig out the screw holes takes a lot of time. So progress is light today.

Hinge plates and trough wire form installed on the bottom. Original rails are cleaned and reinstalled.

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#24 3 years ago

My process of prepping holes is the same. These were a bit too small so had to open them up slightly. I use Ron’s clear kit to prep any playfield

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#25 3 years ago

Getting some parts ordered and I have for pop bumper body options Zitt that I really like. Not sure which yet or what color skirts either. I also have plain white and opaque white.

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#26 3 years ago

I’ll be going with new bats of unknown colors yet but still throw parts that look good in ultrasonic. Sometimes they’re good for spares or projects that I give back to the owners. Here’s one that hit the trash.

I have all the wire management on. Yeah some will come off for the GI braid...

A few Comets going in before a make a list.

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#27 3 years ago

Mechanism assemblies part 1. Gerry brought over the brackets needed so they’re all right now. You’ll see in the sling pics showing a good replacement and the wrong one. He also brought the knocker over so it can get cleaned up too.

I’m going to do the lower playfield first so that’s what you’re seeing now. When the lower is mostly populated or at least mostly ready, I’ll start on the upper.

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#28 3 years ago

Mechs part 2. Both the lower flipper 11630’s coils are really tight pulling out the sleeve. And the crispy cookie wrappers that crumble shown it’s seen some heat in its life. Will see if he wants to get new or has some good used 11630’s.

Not many parts will stay with the flippers. They’ll get the new WPC style springs too.

The outlane kicker has some wear. Will clean it up as a spare but will get a new one.

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#29 3 years ago

Good news from Cliffy ! He had some templates for the flipper frames and I was able to match them up for him. We were going to send them out to him but doesn’t look like we will need to.

He’s made improvements too hence some differences.

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#30 3 years ago

Star posts going on. Experimenting with different colors of posts and Titan_Pinball ring colors. I’m liking the black post at flipper and white ring. Will likely go with black flipper bats at least the lowers.

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#31 3 years ago

The back panel has a chip out so using some Quik Wood for the repair. Not that little blue pill kind but it is Valentine’s Day.

The new front hangers from Gerry look much better now and installed.

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#32 3 years ago

I’m using a clear and black star post at the lower areas near the slings to complement the checkered pattern in the playfield. I originally just had plain red which was fine but this is looking better to me.

The top side metal is all cleaned and regrained. Thankfully all the holes on the Mirco have been perfect to this point.

Test fitted the sling plastics.

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#33 3 years ago

While waiting for the rest of the lamp holders, I started to run some braid and staple in.

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#35 3 years ago

The first order came today from Marco. New targets and a lot of metal parts. I got him all new trough metal as they never clean up really nice. New targets and sticking with the Pringle colors as they’re matched to inserts and look correct as they are.

Going with the more opaque pop bumper bodies as it will still give a lot more light snd will have the nice LED rings. I think the clear one here would be too much light.

Unfortunately, the shorted me one pop skirt and missed one of the spinner decal sets. No big deal as they always fix these rare issues and immediately responded. They’re going to put them in my next order which will be very soon.

They sent this cool new keychain they have.

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#36 3 years ago

The rest of the bulb holders came today too so I finished stapling and soldering them all in. Some of the yellow GI cross-wires were transferred over as they were in great shape once cleaned.

This is the Unicatch upholstery long nose stapler I use. It took a little over a full sleeve of staples. It’s been flawless for the 5+ years I’ve owned it. I do keep it lubed at every use with Amsoil air tool oil.

Couple pics of top side with pop bumpers, new metal trough parts, and full overview as of today.

The new stand up targets are all installed and the holes all lined up. Even the new sling hardware was perfect. Very happy so far.
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#37 3 years ago

Today was soldering in the six bank stand up target harness, reflowing the light boards, stapling/soldering in the one rear GI bulb holder, and assessing the needed and missing Titan rings and LED’s for both playfields.

LED’s in GI are Comet sunlight 2SMD’s. Other than red, green and blue, the inserts will be sunlight non ghosting.

I’m going to use the amber pop bumper caps as they’ll complement the plastic above it well. They have some color but fairly translucent to help light the plastic up.

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#38 3 years ago

Lot of parts ordered today. We have Titan rings and Comet LED’s coming along with another Marco order and they’re sending the missing parts from plastic order. Starship Fantasy subway ramp for upper playfield showed up today.

I laid in the rest of the harnesses. Micro switches will all be replaced.

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#39 3 years ago

Most micro switches have been replaced. While there, I replaced the old badly yellowed tubing for the trough diodes and shooter lane switch.

All the stand up targets are soldered and installed.

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#40 3 years ago

All the playfield micro switches are installed. There’s 9 of them on the lower and two on the upper for subway. There’s 3 for the ramp for 14 total.

Some of the mechanism are installed. Waiting on some coil labels held up in the mail. The kicker has the wrong bracket so will try and locate one.

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#41 3 years ago

Karolina is getting her laser eyes ready to supervise the upper playfield portion.

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#42 3 years ago

New spoons are installed along with the coil labels. I have all the mechanisms installed but the shooter lane feeder. Need to order one piece that has a loose stud.

Also the kickback dimples were too far left as the armature was hitting the side rail. So far that was the only simple issue and that was only slightly.

Couple of pics of progress:

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#44 3 years ago

The ramp is a recently replaced new one so I’m just dissembling for cleaning. The wrong Canadian square heads will be replaced. Nothing wrong with them but trying to stay with correct hardware.

The harnesses are being ultrasonic’d, new switches will be installed (to replaced these flattened ones), and tumbled hardware. Some Comet LED’s will finish off the flashers.

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#45 3 years ago

The upper playfield flipper bats all have cracks. So placed order for lower playfield using all black and uppers all yellow (limited by small flipper on available in yellow).

Top side mechs/coils soldered in. Will be adding in a sunlight strip light at apron to light up below the flippers. I’ll add a socket when the order comes so it’s easy to remove if not wanted.

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#46 3 years ago

Placed the plastics on but can’t finish as the Titans are delayed in the mail.

Comet order came so any orange, yellow, or clear insert got sunlight non ghosting. Color matched NG on the red, green and blues. Flashers are cool whites flat top with exception of 25,000 point flasher which got a flex cool white.

The bottom side is mostly complete and soldered in. Flipper bases are polished and waiting the new coils. All 6 flipper coils will be new. Most were way too tight so we decided to go new. More and more I think new coils, especially flippers, should go new when you’re going through this much trouble. I had one that wasn’t too bad getting the sleeve out but the new one wouldn’t go all the way in. TWSS

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#47 3 years ago

Post locations. Note not to scale but will give the general area.

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#48 3 years ago

Top playfield tear down top side. Part 1

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#49 3 years ago

Top playfield tear down top side. Part 2

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#51 3 years ago

You have some time. I have a few parts to order and waiting until I get the upper torn down to make a list. I can’t wrap up the lower as the rings are stuck somewhere in Texas since the 19th. Hopefully everyone down there is safe.

#53 3 years ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

No shit. 2 pages in and I'm the first one to say it.
Baaaaaannnnnnnnzzzzzzaiiiiiiiii!
Looks bad ass as usual dmacy. You do absolutely beautiful work.

Will do a “Where’s Waldo” of a Golden monkey for you to find.

#55 3 years ago

Upper tear down on the bottom side. Some more Canadian screws found on the subway. I’ll get the correct hardware when installing the new subway. Someone spent a lot of time strengthening the old subway. Not pretty but was fully functional.

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#56 3 years ago

Upper tear down on the bottom side part 2.

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#57 3 years ago

Upper tear down on the bottom side part 3.

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#58 3 years ago

Spinners were ultrasonic’d, sanded, painted and now new decals.

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#59 3 years ago

The upper playfield mechanisms. They’re all in good nick. Just needing cleaning, rebuilt and new wrappers.

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#60 3 years ago

The ramp parts are cleaned and finished tumbling so the new switches were soldered in and adjusted after the ramp was assembled.

The new targets are installed. All but one red and one yellow aren’t installed. I missed one and the red is in the way of mounting on the rotisserie.

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#61 3 years ago

Karolina is supervising the harness. She said I need to clean it.

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#62 3 years ago

I started populating some lamp holders and the GI relay. New T nuts are installed. There are (3) 6-32 and (47) 8-32 (Includes 8 on topside) t nuts on the upper playfield.

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#64 3 years ago

I made it too easy lol!

#65 3 years ago

Here’s the LED pop rings. I am testing cool white, warm white, and pink in that order. Pink is if ally nice but in this case is way too pink. I personally like the warm white the best but cool white isn’t bad.

One day I’ll put these in my own machines.
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#66 3 years ago

I’ve wrapped up the stapling/GI lamp braid, wire managers and the 4 through posts.

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#67 3 years ago

The Titans came as a welcome surprise so was able to finish up plastics after putting them on.

Not sure what looks best as they all look good for the lower flippers. Tested black, white, red and gray.

The ramp is fitted and looks to work fine. I need to Mylar under the ramp entry/drop. I’ll tidy up the wiring better when it’s installed for the last time.
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#68 3 years ago

Some more parts today including the ball shooter section and some lamp holders. And the Enhanced Cliffy frames we fitted look to be perfect. Not sure when he’ll have these for sale but I’ll ask!
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#69 3 years ago

Here’s them installed:

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#70 3 years ago

I added one of the tree plastics by the right spinner. They include several extra tree plastics. Hoping to find a few more spots for the spares.

GI tested and ramp fitted. Mylar at the left ramp drop, ball return and ramp flap.

The pop caps look yellow but they’re actually an orange/amber in person. I have a warm white here. I wired up the strip behind the flipper and both ball ejects. I changed them to clear so they can be lit differently. The center eject is a fast color changer with the GI. The left eject is wired to light red along with the red “Banzai Hill”. Wanted this to stand out when lit.

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#71 3 years ago

Cliff confirmed the flipper frames are for sale and ready to go!

#72 3 years ago

Missed six 8-32 T nuts on the top side of the upper playfield. This takes more attention and using Ron’s kit will help prevent chips. I use a sharpie but if you’re careful you could use a hand nut driver and let the t nut make slight indentations.

Then use one of the bits Ron includes and seal it.

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#73 3 years ago

Some new and some good ultrasonic’d Star posts now installed with tumbled hardware. There’s a bunch!

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#74 3 years ago

More progress today. The mechanisms are wrapped up on the upper playfield along with the GI jumpers that are all over the back.

Ring choices match the playfield art.

Some more wood repairs to side rails.

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#76 3 years ago

Heads up if you have a Mirco. Two holes are far off. I made new holes using kruzman kit again.

Most of the metal is installed on the top side. I need to get a few TIG’d as they get a beating.

Karolina approved the lower playfield completed.

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Hand me the zip ties, I'm going to clean up this harness quick.Hand me the zip ties, I'm going to clean up this harness quick.

#78 3 years ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

I love the last picture. It needs a caption. Something like "Hand me the zip ties, I'm going to clean up this harness quick."

Done lol! Now where's that guy that was saying the horrible wiring job and wasn't even that far yet!

#79 3 years ago

I've sent Peter Inkochnito the motor test switch decal so he can add it to the others he has collected.

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#81 3 years ago

New cards for the apron installed. The flipper assemblies are all installed however the one was pretty ugly despite being cleaned so it will get a new plate. For now the upper Freestyle flipper is done. And the correct 15/16” pinball installed.

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#83 3 years ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

GO FOR THE HILL!!!
Looking great dmacy!!!

You missed the GM twice in this page. BTW we were thinking of ya when we at Log Cabin for the fat neighbor’s birthday on Thursday. (Inside joke about my wife).

#84 3 years ago

The ball carrier assembly is installed. Gerry has a new decal for it so I removed the old. I’m starting to lay in the harnesses.

Finished painted of the wooden sides after fixing the chips.

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#85 3 years ago

Took the day off to get my other hobby going. I needed to use up the rest of the fuel in my tank up from October and top off with some fresh fuel and give it a wash. Topped it off with a rear diff fluid change and new diff cover using ARP stainless 12 point bolts. The BMR panhard needs to come off so the cover clears the ring gear for removal.

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#86 3 years ago

Soldered all the targets and the three new micro switches. Still have the coils and flippers to go. The two need flipper frames are in so transferred both rebuilds over. The lamp harness is also laid in following the same LED list as before: (all NG) sunlights for all but red, green and blue that match those inserts.

The wooden rails are also on so it’s all but done other than the TIG work which should be this weekend.

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#87 3 years ago

Shout out to Debbie from Pinrestore. They’re great people and have a lot of things that you need and some things you didn’t know you needed! She hooked me up as always. Thank you guys!!!

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#88 3 years ago

Lower playfield: I added two star post lights to the clear posts. GI tested and working.

Also lower insert lamps all working.

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#89 3 years ago

Upper playfield flippers wired and soldered in. I finished the rest of the GI and solenoid soldering. Just some wire clean up and upper GI and inserts to test.

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#90 3 years ago

GI and inserts all working.

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#91 3 years ago

Cleaned up the wiring. These three pieces need work. I have the TIG worked out this weekend and that should wrap it up.

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#95 3 years ago

Looking great!!!!

#97 3 years ago

It looks great! Hats off for the dry method. I’ve had so many failures doing it myself that way.

It’s crazy just how different everything is on BR. The lower cabinet is even different. It really must’ve added quite a lot to the average BOM for the era.

I wonder what the pricing was? More than an average B/W game of the era?

#98 3 years ago

The TIG work got done today. I regrained and reinstalled. Ended up using some stainless rivets in the holes to replace the aluminum ones someone used to repair many years ago. It got a bead to back it up.

I think it’s about ready.

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#100 3 years ago

I can see why! It’s almost two machines packed into one cabinet.

1 week later
#102 3 years ago

Wow! It looks like new! I have the orange buttons if you want to use them or are you going with lighted?

BTW, that back box is really big when you see it like that. I doubt I could fit one in my low basement.

#103 3 years ago

We should be wrapping this up Friday. Looking forward to seeing it back up and running.

FYI to anyone looking to have me do any swaps: I’m wrapping up a few projects I’ve committed to this year and that’s it. If you’re local and wanting something done please contact me soon.

#104 3 years ago

Good news. Gerry and I got the playfields in and running. What a job getting things plugged back in! He knows my favorite beer and was seducing me with that sweet nectar. Lol but he’s great host and friend.

There to Peter Inkochnito for the updated motor test switch decal we measured up for him. He now has it on his site if you need it.

We had a few issues. One was the left outlane the ball would hang up. The rail despite being the original May be slightly drilled off and kept the ball from going through. He was able to shave some off the Cliffy however that was not the issue but easier solution. Something to watch for if you have so this swap.

One of the two upper flashers needed swapped due to polarity which was no big deal.

While tightening up the right lower flipper bat the bolt broke with hardly any effort. I’ve been having this issue from all the vendors now. You either get them barely tight or bust a bolt.

Lastly there’s some other little things he is working on but we got to put a few games on and it’s playing way fast. I’m guessing the high scores are going to be tougher to reach now.

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1 year later
#106 1 year ago

Hard to believe it has been a year since playing this. Got to play it again. Plays really nice!

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#108 1 year ago
Quoted from Squeakman:

Damn Dave this is an amazing restore. I’ve been away a bit and missed your recent restores. As usual you kicked some ass. Other than the fact that this has two playfields was it any harder than a normal pin?

Thanks. It wasn’t bad at all. A few holes off in the upper was the only major thing which isn’t much of a problem.

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