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Banning Pinball Museum to auction their collection

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#4651 2 years ago
Quoted from Neal_W:

Bidder 1660 Identified:
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Gatlinburg pinball museum was mentioned in the article, so I went looking for more info. They are currently closed for improvements and hope to open by mid/late December.
From their Facebook-
We definitely bought a few and can’t wait to reopen to share them with you! We kept as many in the United States as possible during this Banning auction.
However we did not purchase a $5,300 Stargate video game...ever. We have been in this business since the release of Space Invaders. We know the pieces we can locate and those we consider rare. Stay tuned!
Sincerely, Bidder 1660

Nice, glad another public pinball house got some of them

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#4652 2 years ago

Watching Captain's auction now, with some of John Weeks' other games in it. Prices are NOT at Banning levels, have reverted to closer to normal. Will post list once complete.

395 THE MUNSTERS PINBALL MACHINE STERN 2019 $5,500
396 DR. DUDE and HIS EXCELLENT RAY CLASSIC BALLY PINBALL MACHINE 1990 $2,800
397 PLAYBOY CLASSIC BALLY PINBALL MACHINE 1978 $1,800
398 MR & MRS. PAC-MAN PINBALL MACHINE BALLY 1982 $1,500
399 DING DONG CLASSIC PINBALL MACHINE WILLIAMS 1968 $400
400 PAT HAND PINBALL MACHINE WILLIAMS 1975 $700
401 SHARP SHOOTER II CLASSIC PINBALL MACHINE GAME PLAN 1983 $900
402 CHECKPOINT PINBALL MACHINE DATA EAST 1991 $2,400
403 Tales from the Crypt Pinball Machine Data East 1993 $5,700
404 TORPEDO ALLEY PINBALL MACHINE DATA EAST 1988 $2,400
405 THE STAR WARS TRILOGY SPECIAL EDITION PINBALL MACHINE SEGA $3,800
406 VERNE'S WORLD PINBALL MACHINE SPINBALL RARE IMPORT $3,200
407 FLIP FLOP EM CLASSIC PINBALL MACHINE BALLY 1976 $1,000
408 STRIKES & SPARES CLASSIC PINBALL MACHINE BALLY 1978 $1,700
409 EIGHT BALL CLASSIC PINBALL MACHINE BALLY $1,400
410 ROCKMAKERS CLASSIC BALLY PINBALL MACHINE 1968 $1,400
411 Airborne Avenger Pinball Machine Atari 1977 $1,000
412 METEOR PINBALL MACHINE by STERN CLASSIC $1,600
413 Alien Pinball Machine Heighway Pinball 2017 $10,500
414 AC/DC LUCI Pinball Machine Stern Premium Title!! 2013 $9,700
415 Demolition Man Widebody Pinball Machine Williams 1994 $3,700
416 Corvette Classic Bally Pinball Machine 1994 $4,000
417 Pinball Magic Capcom Pinball Machine 1995 $4,100
418 Theater of Magic Pinball Machine Bally 1995 $7,500
419 Mary Shelley's Frankenstein Pinball Machine Sega 1995 $4,000
420 Black Belt Classic Bally Pinball Machine 1986 $1,800
421 Viper Night Drivin' Pinball Machine Sega 1998 $2,000
422 EIGHTBALL DELUXE CLASSIC PINBALL MACHINE BALLY $3,100
423 Transporter Pinball Machine Bally Classic 1989 $4,100
424 Star Trek Pinball Machine Data East 1991 $3,800
425 HOT FIREBIRDS PINBALL MACHINE NSM IMPORT $900
426 Dialed In Limited Edition Pinball Machine Jersey Jack 2017 $8,300
427 Judge Dredd Widebody Pinball Machine Bally 1993 $4,200
428 Transformers Limited Edition Pinball Machine Stern 2011 $6,200
429 X-MEN WOLVERINE LIMITED EDITION PINBALL MACHINE #47 of 300 STERN 2012 $7,000
430 THE FLINTSTONES PINBALL MACHINE WILLIAMS 1994 $5,000
431 THE SOPRANO'S PINBALL MACHINE STERN 2005 $4,600
432 PLAY BALL WEDGE HEAD CLASSIC PINBALL MACHINE GOTTLIEB 1971 $1,200
433 Jackpot Classic Pinball Machine Williams 1971 $800
434 HOT WHEELS IMPORT PINBALL MACHINE ZACCARIA 1979 $1,100
435 FLICKER CLASSIC PINBALL MACHINE BALLY LAUREL & HARDY EDWARD G. $800
436 OH BOY! CLASSIC PINBALL MACHINE PROJECT WILLIAMS E.M. $450
436a HALLOWEEN COLLECTOR'S EDITION PINBALL MACHINE #55 SPOOKY PINBALL 2021 $9,600
436b ULTRAMAN COLLECTORS EDITION PINBALL MACHINE SPOOKY PINBALL!! $8,300
437 Guns & Roses Pinball Machine Data East 1994 $4,700
438 Wizard of OZ Emerald City Limited Edition Pinball Machine Jersey Jack 2013 $10,200
439 Netflix Stranger Things Limited Edition Pinball Machine Stern $10,100
440 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Premium Edition Pinball Machine $7,100
441 Lost in Space Pinball Machine Sega 1998 $3,700
442 Al's Garage Band Goes on World Tour Pinball Machine Alvin G. 1992 $2,500
443 Batman Forever Widebody Pinball Machine Sega 1995 $5,500
444 Time Machine Pinball Machine Data East 1988 $3,200
445 The Shadow Pinball Machine Bally 1994 $4,500
446 Pharaoh Classic Pinball Machine Williams 1981 $2,000
447 Black Knight Pinball Machine Williams 1980 $2,900
448 Jungle Lord Classic Pinball Machine Williams 1981 $2,700
449 Flash Pinball Machine Williams Classic 1978 $1,500
450 Alien Poker Williams Pinball Machine 1980 $1,600
451 Cosmic Gunfight Pinball Machine Rare Williams 1982 $3,500
452 The Phantom of the Opera Pinball Machine Data East 1990 $4,500
453 MARS GOD OF WAR PINBALL MACHINE GOTTLIEB 1981 $1,400
454 Pool Champion Pinball Machine Zaccariah 1985 $1,200
455 Butterfly Pinball Machine Sonic 1977 $800
456 Super Straight Pinball Machine Sonic 1977 $900

#4653 2 years ago

Thank you for the post there.

#4654 2 years ago
Quoted from Neal_W:

"You can take that NFT to the marketplace where you can sell it or trade it or do whatever you want with it,"

LMFAO

#4655 2 years ago

Sorry.... deleted.

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#4656 2 years ago

Bought a few interesting projects at the auction last night.
Although I'm 99.9% certain these were consigned from another collector (not Banning stuff).

Both of these are PSE cabinets and use the same hardware as Bazooka (which I have).
Should be able to test the board sets in that cabinet and go from there.
Pretty darn rare games from a short lived company that didn't make a lot of games.
I thought they were a bargain, but then again they are going to take a bit of work.

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#4657 2 years ago

If we were to judge from the quantity of posts here (and certain other cues), I'd have to say that there was some major auction burn-out going on, with a lessening of interest. Some closing prices remained over the rainbow, but many more seemed to have sunk back to earth. With a clear price-shock hangover for auction weekends 1 & 2, along with the usual auction-master descriptive hyperbole, and not being able to be there to see pin conditions for myself, I simply hesitated and kept to the sidelines. There were a few lots I might have bid on but for that, and particularly if I had known that the prices would not reach those prior levels.

I'd like to learn a lot more about the cocktail table pins -- which of them are most highly regarded -- as that is a real gap in my knowledge.

#4658 2 years ago

The worm is turning. I think Banning was the peak. I know this board is mostly cheer leading never-ending price appreciation (just like in housing), but the correction is inevitable due to demographic and financial changes. I always get this premonition just before reaching out to catch falling knives.

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#4659 2 years ago

Oh good, the bubble is popping!

Ha, a guy can dream, right?

#4660 2 years ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Worth noting that the big buyers didn’t come from Dubai.

they were definitely from 'do buy'.

#4661 2 years ago

I just want that EM gun+pinball game

#4662 2 years ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

I just want that EM gun+pinball game

I've fixed one of those before! They're so weird and cool, but unless you're competing, they get a little stale after you get it locked in.
The playfield is in the bottom of the cab, tilted backwards, with a 45 degree mirror set up.

#4663 2 years ago
Quoted from fireball2:

I've fixed one of those before! They're so weird and cool, but unless you're competing, they get a little stale after you get it locked in.
The playfield is in the bottom of the cab, tilted backwards, with a 45 degree mirror set up.

Uh, what title is that ? (I'm gonna guess it was low production . . . )

#4664 2 years ago
Quoted from fireball2:

I've fixed one of those before! They're so weird and cool, but unless you're competing, they get a little stale after you get it locked in.
The playfield is in the bottom of the cab, tilted backwards, with a 45 degree mirror set up.

It's the perfect kind of 'new people are over come check this out..' kind of piece.

#4665 2 years ago

These prices were back to normal average Captains Auctions.
No New York Times Story's telling the world Pinball/video games for sale!

That Desert Patrol looked cool, love all the early era Video games, most of the early pre Space Invader history has been lost and forgotten.

#4667 2 years ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

That Desert Patrol looked cool, love all the early era Video games, most of the early pre Space Invader history has been lost and forgotten.

You should try to make it out here for ZapCon this year.
https://pinside.com/pinball/events/zapcon-8-2022
I’m planning on bringing a bunch of this era of games to the show and running two “Bronze Age” arcade tournaments.

The first one is going to be Land, Air and Sea.
It’s a head to head, player against player double elimination tournament.
My plan is to bring SUBS, TANK 2, Biplane and Guided Missile. Trophies for first, second and third place.

Second tournament is going to be a general Bronze Age tournament where you compete on a variety of games like Sea Wolf, Stunt Cycle, Sky Diver, Blue Shark, Sub Hunter, Video Pinball, Space Invaders etc. Each game will be based on score. Highest score per game gets 4 points, second highest gets 3, third gets two and you get 1 point for just playing a machine and putting up a score. If two people tie on a machine, they both get the points allocated for that bracket. For instance two people tie for first on Stunt Cycle, they both get 4 points. The most overall points at the end determines 1st, 2nd and third place and there will be trophies for that as well. In the event of a tie, the two players are challenged to a duel at Gunfight.

The great thing about it is it’s mostly time based skill games. I.E. anybody could win. I would not be surprised if someone’s kid walks away with a trophy. Should be a lot of fun.

#4668 2 years ago
Quoted from HighVoltage:

1242 Man Eater Classic Upright Shark Arcade Game $21,600

Another Man Eater just sold for under $4k with buyer's premium
https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/PROJECT_SUPPORT_ENGINEERING__MAN_EATER__ARCADE_GAM-LOT516195.aspx

LOL

#4669 2 years ago

There's a Man Eater in CA on eBay for $25,000. This is FISHY.

#4670 2 years ago

Hope to make it to Zapcon, ill head strait for the Black and White games.
I'll buy the first round of Drinks.

#4671 2 years ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

Hope to make it to Zapcon, ill head strait for the Black and White games.
I'll buy the first round of Drinks.

I'll get the 2nd round. Gotta talk Sabbath and solid states.

#4672 2 years ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

Hope to make it to Zapcon, ill head strait for the Black and White games.
I'll buy the first round of Drinks.

Quoted from sunnRAT:

I'll get the 2nd round. Gotta talk Sabbath and solid states.

Third round it is.

#4673 2 years ago
Quoted from Heretic_9:

Also listed were a couple pins I never heard of: Ultraman and Halloween. Sounds like they would have to be licensed themes, so no home brew Ultracab type deals ?

These are the 2 most recent Spooky Pinball releases. Halloween is licensed from the 1978 film, Ultraman from the classic Kaiju series. Both have the same playfield layout, just with different themes/assets.

436a HALLOWEEN COLLECTOR'S EDITION PINBALL MACHINE #55 SPOOKY PINBALL 2021 $9,600
436b ULTRAMAN COLLECTORS EDITION PINBALL MACHINE SPOOKY PINBALL!! $8,300

#4674 2 years ago
Quoted from Betelgeuse:

These are the 2 most recent Spooky Pinball releases. Halloween is licensed from the 1978 film, Ultraman from the classic Kaiju series. Both have the same playfield layout, just with different themes/assets.
436a HALLOWEEN COLLECTOR'S EDITION PINBALL MACHINE #55 SPOOKY PINBALL 2021 $9,600
436b ULTRAMAN COLLECTORS EDITION PINBALL MACHINE SPOOKY PINBALL!! $8,300

Ultraman code or lack of is pure garbage. That was a guy I knows machine at Captains that sold for 8300 without fees. He was pissed rightfully so after he unboxed and started playing it. The new owner is gonna be even more pissed dropping 10k on that turd.

#4675 2 years ago
Quoted from PinBallPeteFromSD:

Ultraman code or lack of is pure garbage. That was a guy I knows machine at Captains that sold for 8300 without fees. He was pissed rightfully so after he unboxed and started playing it. The new owner is gonna be even more pissed dropping 10k on that turd.

Yeah Spooky needs to get UM in a better place. Playing it with current code is really lackluster and compared to Godzilla makes it even worse.

#4676 2 years ago

Spooky figured out they don't need Danesi, Priepke, Kerins, or anyone to sell games. Theme alone sells out the entire run instantly. Buyers made their bed, now they gotta lie in it.

#4677 2 years ago
Quoted from yancy:

Spooky figured out they don't need Danesi, Priepke, Kerins, or anyone to sell games. Theme alone sells out the entire run instantly. Buyers made their bed, now they gotta lie in it.

What sort of dolt would drop that extent of change sight unseen ? (Pins are large, heavy machines, not so easily re-sold or disposed of.)

A good friend long ago decided that he wouldn't purchase any game -- and in this case we're generally talking Used here -- without first personally inspecting it for condition, and of course having played it to assess the level of interest. That pretty much limited him to a 2-hour driving distance. Having ordered around 8 pins from long distance myself, with the attendant shipping and its added cost, I sort of took that as an extreme and impractical position to take. (It does take you out of the running, if a title is rare and widely sought after, with a sample not to be found anywhere in the area.) By now I'm starting to see some wisdom in this. But I had always had experience in having played whatever I was buying, and in all but one case was able to do a pretty good job in determining the condition, despite the game being on the other side of the country.

I can't imagine buying a pricey item, by advance order, when you just have nothing known to base this on.

#4678 2 years ago

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#4679 2 years ago

Anyone who has been in this hobby for more than a minute, knows Spooky developes the Code as the game is being built and shipped.

Most Halloween Ultraman owners, 95% of them won't get thier machine until sometime in 2022.

My first 3 NIB were Spooky games, TNA, Alice, and Rick and Morty.
The finished code on all three is great.
Scott D still has cool ideas that he wants to add to TNA.

Anyone who dumps their Halloween Ultraman at this point are tantruming Babys.

Pretty pathetic.

#4680 2 years ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

Anyone who dumps their Halloween Ultraman at this point are tantruming Babys.
Pretty pathetic.

Word.
Bunch of Veruca Salts

#4681 2 years ago
Quoted from Heretic_9:

What sort of dolt would drop that extent of change sight unseen?

Only a couple thousand of your fellow pinsiders.

Quoted from Heretic_9:

(Pins are large, heavy machines, not so easily re-sold or disposed of.)

Not sure if you've seen the market lately but they're pretty easily re-sold.

Unless those comments were sarcastic, in which case you found a sucker. *shakes fist*

#4682 2 years ago
Quoted from PinBallPeteFromSD:

That was a guy I knows machine at Captains that sold for 8300 without fees. He was pissed rightfully so after he unboxed and started playing it.

Rightfully so?!

Who forced him to buy it?

#4683 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Rightfully so?!
Who forced him to buy it?

They were forced at machete point and if they didn’t buy it, they would be murdered in the woods.

#4684 2 years ago

the machetes make this hobby far more exciting

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#4685 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Who forced him to buy it?

He was forced by the enormous power known as FOMOPIN.

The FLAMING ICON on a Pinside thread drew him in closer to his computer screen. “What’s this?” he thought, as he clicked on the mouse.

Through the posts he scrolled, feverishly, to seek the cause of this flaming icon. “20k by Xmas!” a poster excitedly exclaimed. The goosebumps formed on his arms — adrenaline coursed through his veins. I MUST HAVE THIS THING!

Excitedly, he found the purchase link. Hand quivering, he slid his mouse over the available options. “I’M GETTING EVERYTHING!” he proudly exclaimed, out loud to his empty office. He knew that all successful people always got … EVERYTHING.

Quickly he returned to the flaming thread.

“I’M IN ON AN LE!!” he proudly typed. He knew that was what super cool people always typed on Pinside. He knew it was his duty to let everyone know that he had a lot of money to spend on pinball machines, and HE WAS IN.

IN.

“I’M IN ON AN LE”

Again the goosebumps returned. Another adrenaline moment. I’ve made it, he thought. THIS WILL BE BOLTED TO THE FLOOR.

He returned to the Pinside menu.

What’s this?

ANOTHER FLAMING THREAD!!

Another machine has been released!

The process repeated!

I’M IN!!

I AM IN ON AN LE.

<GOTO10>

rd

#4686 2 years ago
Quoted from Coindork:

Word.
Bunch of Veruca Salts

wait a sec.... spooky's doing a veruca salt pin?!? sign me up

1 week later
#4687 2 years ago

I don't want to put this in the for-sale thread, so I'm using this Banning thread to discuss an auction:
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/117721110_a-pinball-machine
Supreme Pinball Machine
Estimate $20,000 - $30,000

#4688 2 years ago
Quoted from cait001:

I don't want to put this in the for-sale thread, so I'm using this Banning thread to discuss an auction:
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/117721110_a-pinball-machine
Supreme Pinball Machine
Estimate $20,000 - $30,000

everyone should just start retheming project pins as a supreme package and then reap the rewards of selling these 1-offs to the millennials with deep pockets

#4689 2 years ago
Quoted from j_m_:everyone should just start retheming project pins as a supreme package and then reap the rewards of selling these 1-offs to the millennials with deep pockets

Hhhmmm. This gives me a parody idea. I must find out how deep the pockets are…

#4690 2 years ago
Quoted from j_m_:

everyone should just start retheming project pins as a supreme package and then reap the rewards of selling these 1-offs to the millennials with deep pockets

I thought I had (briefly) seen a 4th. stanza of the remaining M of P sell-off via CAW, devoted to projects, parts, and misc. Then it was gone. Or was I dreaming ?

Keep meaning to tell Chris that the "r20___" link he keeps posting only seems to 404 at this end. But regular reaching of the CAW site does get me to whatever the current auction catalog happens to be. Could be some browser issue, not sure.

2 weeks later
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#4691 2 years ago

I interviewed Todd Tucky from TNT Amusements and he was talking about the auction inflating pinball prices. It's happened this side of the pond too.

#4692 2 years ago

Was the auction a cause or a symptom?

I’m leaning way toward symptom. Auction is a distant memory but higher prices aren’t.

#4693 2 years ago
Quoted from KrisGonzo:

I interviewed Todd Tucky from TNT Amusements and he was talking about the auction inflating pinball prices. It's happened this side of the pond too.

"UK's the size of Pennsylvania, guys"
LOL

#4694 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Was the auction a cause or a symptom?
I’m leaning way toward symptom. Auction is a distant memory but higher prices aren’t.

Either way it was a perfect storm…

1 week later
#4695 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Was the auction a cause or a symptom?
I’m leaning way toward symptom. Auction is a distant memory but higher prices aren’t.

I am thinking more of a symptom because it happened during the pandemic and probably more attention placed on it because people were home bound.

1 month later
#4696 2 years ago

And so it begins.

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#4697 2 years ago

Now this, this is a nice HGT

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#4698 2 years ago
Quoted from PinBallPeteFromSD:

And so it begins.
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Hilarious. That sold at at the auction for $3,800 hammer price. With tax and fees would have been $4,779.

#4699 2 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Well, all said and told, the funniest part of the whole thing for me is that I managed to sell my Alien for more than the one at the overinflated Banning auction fetched.
I think there's really four lessons here:
1) Some things just get value by being what they are. Yes, you can buy mirrored balls and make a wall of them for a lot less money. But it won't be the display from the museum, and to someone that history meant something. I'm not judging.
2) More than a few games went to someone who really cared for a reason. It was their childhood game. It was the game they connected with at the museum. Whatever it was, it added personal value. Again, no judgement. I hope they all enjoy.
3) Hype works. I'm sure plenty of people went in deeper than they planned when the bidding wars started and they saw everything going. FOMO kicked in. I know someone who bought one of the overpriced Data East games, and I really think he just got caught up in the moment. Someone else read about it in the NYTimes and now owns their first game and has no idea what they're doing but it seemed like the thing to do now with some windfall they were sitting on. I'll be honest, I'm kinda judgey on this one. It's bad for the hobby.
4) The most important lesson, that explains everything the above didn't cover: when you're rich you don't have to be patient. You don't have to price shop, you don't have to hunt, you don't have to think about if you could acquire a game elsewhere for cheaper. You don't give a shit. The games you wanted were all there, you opened your wallet, you'll never miss the $100k or whatever because you have millions more, and they're all going on a truck. Done. Kinda sucks for the rest of us. They don't care.

All I can say is bingo and well said "More than a few games went to someone who really cared for a reason. It was their childhood game. It was the game they connected with at the museum. Whatever it was, it added personal value. Again, no judgement. I hope they all enjoy."

Ended up with two - the first my favorite machine for 40+ years back, the second my daughters favorite machine she was introduced to at the museum - personal value indeed - and loving them both here 4+ months later...

#4700 2 years ago

I was **flung** out of any reasonable consideration on the bidding for a few MoP auction games -- often early in their respective biddings ! -- because I'm just not going to be reckless or stupid with money. (And Reason 4 of Aurich's post certainly does not apply to me.) But, even though clearly overspending per actual book value on it, I did luck out with the one purchase that went through. A (fortunately) non-licensed, not-really-famous, non-hyped title that was in the likely **minority** of museum games that were in better-than-player-condition. Probably not previously routed, either. Sometimes a relative obscurity helps.

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