after spending countless hours pounding away on my TZ trying to perfect the "bangback" i wondered, Has anyone ever broken the glass out by performing bangbacks? I'm hoping its not possible.
Quoted from Whysnow:
can someone explain what a bangback is?
It's cheating , no seriously, its when the ball is draining on the right side and right before it passes the right flipper you press and hold right flipper button and nudge the right corner of the machine to make ball go back in play. It's all about perfect timing for it to work.
Yeah. I personally don't do them nor have I ever tried because I think it is cheating. I will every once in a while deathsave my DE games (when the ball is going out the right inlane, you nudge it right as it hits the metal by the apron to get it to pop back onto the flipper) because they reward you for doing so, but I'll only do it on bad games and usually purposely drain right afterward.
If I did this and somehow was about to set a high score, I flip my machines off quick. In tournaments, anything like this is outlawed, so having high scores that were obtained in not-so-noble ways is not worth doing, I think.
Quoted from goatdan:
In tournaments, anything like this is outlawed...
It wasn't always that way though. And since some games know you brought a ball back from the dead, it's not the worst thing in the world. Using the LITZ code is certainly more "cheating" than a bang back is.
But yeah I think bang backs are a young man's game I used to enjoy doing it on the TZ I played. Of course now I own one I'd be too afriad of hurting it...and quite frankly my aging body.
And it has no place in my gaming anymore.
I've never heard of it breaking a glass though. My brother did hit the lock bar and shattered a glass once. Never heard of that either.
While I never heard of a poorly executed bang back breaking a glass.
Look the the edge of your glass, if it's chipping near the spots where the lockdown bar legs go down, well tempered glass don't like that.
Quoted from TheLaw:
But yeah I think bang backs are a young man's game
Rick Stetta, who's near 50, still does the smoothest bangbacks I've ever seen. I don't think Neil Shatz does them any more, but I once saw him do the smoothest kick save I've ever seen. Not even a scuff on the leg. And Marc Conant's (also 50-ish) slide saves are more like a 3 hour epic movie. Before even attempting the save, he first 'cocks' the game. It has to be seen
To the original poster, TZ is probably not the best game to learn on. From what I've seen, newer Stern's with metal aprons can be very easy.
Quoted from Jeff_PHX_AZ:
...its when the ball is draining on the right side and right before it passes the right flipper you press and hold right flipper button and nudge the right corner of the machine to make ball go back in play. It's all about perfect timing for it to work.
There's an animated video linked below, although the video is backwards (from the left side).
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