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Bally Zipper Flipper Club .. AKA .. All Hail Ted Zale

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3 years ago


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#151 2 years ago
Quoted from Kickout:

Picked to RockMakers. Never had a zipper pin so this is new to me. Looks like to will be a fun restore.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

If you need any help with the Zipper mechanism, please let me know (PM me). I sourced replacement bushings and other things when I rebuilt my zipper last year. I guarantee it will be gummed up at minimum and will require a good cleaning.

We are not too far away from each other too.

Dave

#152 2 years ago
Quoted from Skidave:

If you need any help with the Zipper mechanism, please let me know (PM me). I sourced replacement bushings and other things when I rebuilt my zipper last year. I guarantee it will be gummed up at minimum and will require a good cleaning.
We are not too far away from each other too.
Dave

I've got a cosmos and a 4 queens I want to bring back to life this winter. Can you share where to order the replacement parts you used for your flipper zipper rebuild?

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#153 2 years ago

1969 Gator arrived today and is up and running. This game will be for sale, in the near future.

I am seeking a better backglass of any Gator version, crystal glass, plexi, USA or German Aligator version. Also, the 1 point bell appears to be absent so I'm looking for one of those. Third, I need a "palm corner cap" for the canopy frame (which I imagine are scarce). Last, I need the proper scorecard (I haven't yet checked the online scorecard database).

This example has what I suspect is a prototype head because it has a 5th digit dummy reel. I have seen 5 digit dummy reel examples with squared-off score windows. This one has rounded score windows like the 4 digit production version, which is interesting. Perhaps it was a transitional/alternate prototype.

Below are photos of the game, upon arrival, with its decades of dirt and degraded rubbers. The playfield will likely clean up very well. The plastics are intact. Two of the pop bumper caps somehow escaped burn stains. All inserts are level.

The aprons, legs and door are all in good shape. The leg bolts are correct.

The cabinet graphics are bright, even before cleaning. This game has one of the best overall original cabinets of the 9 zipper flipper games I've had in my line-up.

The canopy is nice (save for the missing corner cap) and the top glass is good.

After I complete the cosmetic restoration, this game will be for sale.

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#154 2 years ago

I just got a gator home as well, so excited! Such an awesome game. I saw BGResto does the backglass, is it available anywhere else?

#155 2 years ago
Quoted from Chalkey:

I just got a gator home as well, so excited! Such an awesome game. I saw BGResto does the backglass, is it available anywhere else?

No silkscreened ink versions are available. If I can't find a better original, I will opt for the BGresto.

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#156 1 year ago

I just got my freshly acquired Bazaar up and running. I did not expect to be this drawn in!

Here are a few "just got it home" pics.

Surprisingly, the playfield is in pretty decent shape. Everything works as is, old rubber and all. Only thing that truly needs tweaking at the moment is a weak flipper. I guess I'm about to get a crash course on Zipper Flippers, , ,
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#157 1 year ago

Bally 1968 RockMakers
Picked this up about a month ago, just started working on it.

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#158 1 year ago

Ok I want to test the waters. I took a complete set of clear plastics out of Fireball to a shop and asked for a price for 25 sets. I did complete sets and not just the two pieces that break because my guess is most Fireball clear plastics are yellowed like mine and the difference in cost was only about $15. Why not get a complete set. You will need to transfer the small bell shaped stand offs but a post in this topic covers how to do that. It does not look hard once you know the tricks. If someone finds that before I do please repost that here. Cost for the 6 piece set will be $50 plus shipping. I'm new at this so I'm not sure how to deal with the shipping part. The plastics will be made of a material that will stand up to any type of shipping so it may be possible to use bubble wrapped envelops. Not going to get rich with this project but it should be some fun helping out other Bally and Fireball Fans. If this works out I may do other Bally games from this time period. Let me know what you think and send me a PM if you want to get on the pre-order list. Thanks

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#159 7 months ago

Does anyone has a Rubber Ring list for Bally Dixieland

Gonna start shopping it out but was unsuccessful in located a ring list

Any help appreciated

#160 7 months ago
Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:

Does anyone has a Rubber Ring list for Bally Dixieland
Gonna start shopping it out but was unsuccessful in located a ring list
Any help appreciated

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#161 7 months ago

Thank you so much !!

#162 7 months ago

Anyone have a nice high resolution Dixieland Backglass scan

Mine is super roached out

Anything beats nothing
Appreciate anyones help

#163 7 months ago
Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:

Anyone have a nice high resolution Dixieland Backglass scan
Mine is super roached out
Anything beats nothing
Appreciate anyones help

https://www.pinballartusa.com/product-page/dixieland-1967-bally-backglass-53-pba

#164 7 months ago
Quoted from Kickout:

Bally 1968 RockMakers
Picked this up about a month ago, just started working on it.
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I don't own any zipper flipper Bally's yet but that lower playfield is very interesting. It's the closest thing I've seen to the William's Olympic Hockey table design. It's very well implemented on the Hockey pin and had wondered if it had been used elsewhere. Didn't expect to see it on the Bally.

https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/olympic-hockey

My first pin was a Bally Space Time 10 years ago, had moved it along as we do in this hobby. Recently got a Time Zone and forgot what a silly blast this thing is to play. The pops are just off the charts at 50V but I had forgotten how poor the flippers were compared to Gottlieb's for example.

Does the 2" zipper flipper assembly have better strength and control than the early 3" Bally design? Would love to try a zipper one day.

#165 7 months ago
Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

Something that has not been seen often in the pinball world in over 45 years since factory production, and may not be seen again for a very long time. THREE Four Million B.C. EM pinball machines (Bally, 1971) side-by-side together once again. My game is the one in the middle, in "purist" non-LED colored form. All three games were originally owned by a single collector who seemed to *really* like this title.
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If one is for sale, I'd love to have it!!

#166 7 months ago

I have Joust.
Would *love* to have Four Million BC!

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#168 5 months ago

Is there a tutorial about how to service zipper flippers anywhere? Here's what I'm starting with and it doesn't look very pretty. There is a lot of play in the mechanism, especially on the side of the left flipper.

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#169 5 months ago

I'm a long time Zale guy, and I already had 4 in the collection (Gold Rush [AAB], Hay Ride, Cue Tease, and Happy Tour... yeah, I like the add-a-ball games). My first Zipper Flipper game arrived on Saturday -- Joust. The playfield is in fantastic shape, the backglass is pretty much shot, so I'll be looking for a replacement. Already got it sort of running... but it needs some work. The score motor just runs until you manually trip the ball return relay, then it will play through that ball and score correctly. When the ball drains, the score motor runs until that relay is tripped again. Probably no big deal, but I wasn't in the mood to tinker last night.

Quoted from DanMarino:

Is there a tutorial about how to service zipper flippers anywhere?

http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#zips

#170 4 months ago

For those interested in technical information regarding Dixieland.

Listed below is the documented 800+ hour restoration to restore the game to complete factory specification quality.
The topic thread discusses various professional tips used when working with Ted Zale "zipper flipper" titles.

Additional photos regarding this specific game can be found on IPDB which were provided to Jay Stafford.
IMHO, one of the finest examples in the world, not specifically from the restoration, but original quality baseline.

After completion, I compiled a Tutorial Video detailing history, features, and gameplay on YouTube.

Dixieland (Bally, 1968) - A Restoration Journey
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/dixieland-bally-1968-a-restoration-journey

Dixieland (Bally, 1968) - Tutorial Review

-TBK

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#171 19 days ago

I’ll give it a shot.
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#172 18 days ago

Garrett, that 4 Million BC looks to be in great shape. Looks like an easy project and should clean up really nice.

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