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Bally Wiring Harness's (MPU boot issue)

By jonnyinGB

3 years ago


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#22 3 years ago
Quoted from jonnyinGB:

Hi.
New to this, I have a 1980 SI with a mpu remote battery memory type(as opposed to on board battery). The machine is in an un-played state since being delivered to the uk, on assumption. I assume this because there is no trace of playlines (have looked through magnifying glass & nothing). When I turn the machine on backbox,coin shoot (x2), playfield lights (top bumpers x4). To date I have done numerous repairs/maintanence. Still can't get past this or even to the seven self diagnostic tests, yes the green light is locked on. Had the machine almost two tears now with no play, I can't tell you how frustrating it is.
I have started cross-checking the my wiring harness against Downloaded schematics. The first connector I check has a discrepancy, oh bugger. This is well out of my depth.
Does anyone have any idea's where I go from here?
Thanks In Advance
Jon Beardsley ,U.K.

Jon,

To rule out a wire harness issue with booting the MPU you can attempt to boot on the bench.
https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bally/Stern#How_to_make_a_Benchtop_power_supply_for_the_MPU_board

I suspect though that the locked on LED is as stated by @vid1900. There are other sections in the Pinwiki to assist. Hang in there. The group will help.

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#32 3 years ago
Quoted from jonnyinGB:

The LED is locked on constant

Could be a number of things- bad sockets, corrosion, bad ROMS.

You’re going to need to do some board repairs, or if this is something you have not done before, buy a replacement MPU. I suggest the latter so you get up and running.

https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bally/Stern#LED_locked_on

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#34 3 years ago
Quoted from jonnyinGB:

Hi Pinheads,
I removed all socketed chips apart from U6, U9 & U11, powered up & got two flashes (a flicker then flash maybe) on LED.
I want to keep my SI as original as can be, so really want to get this MPU working. Is this possible? an alltek is a last resort.
What do you all think?
Thanks
Jon Beardsley

Sounds like progress. At least not locked on anymore. Here’s the summary from the link provided:

5.5.4.1 Quick summary
Flicker: MPU reset good, program booted.
1st Flash: ROM Checksums OK
2nd Flash: U7 6810 ram OK
3rd Flash: U8 5101 ram OK (U8 & U13 on mpu-200)
4th Flash: U10 PIA OK (see details for caveats)
5th Flash: U11 PIA OK (see details for caveats)
6th Flash: U12 555 Display interrupt timer OK
7th Flash: Zero crossing interrupt detector OK (solenoid voltage present)

So if you have a flicker and one flash- ROMs are good and possibly U7 or it’s socket is bad.

If you actually got 2 flashes- U8 or it’s socket is bad.

#36 3 years ago

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#38 3 years ago
Quoted from jonnyinGB:

Delete my last post/thread? what? be more specific please.

I deleted what I responded. I don’t know the answers to your questions.

#43 3 years ago
Quoted from jonnyinGB:

Hi,
I am going to buy replacemnt chips for my board U9, U10 & U11. Can anyone suggest where to get them from and what alternatives I could use.
Thanks In Advance.
Jon

Don't know where you can order but for a couple bucks you may want to purchase U7 and U8 too. With getting one or two flashes that may be where you're stuck.

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