Strikes and Spares
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I didn't see a club for Bally Strikes and Spares and since I have a restoration planned to start soon, I thought I'd start one. So who loves this game? I just bought my 5th one. The last one I had was extremely nice but I sold it. The next one will be incredible! Total restore on this one. So, do you love this game?
OK - I call this next thread, "The Python - Dave Christensen Controversy". So I have Python Anghelo at my house in December of 2012. Long story as to why, but he's there and I openly invite all of the Georgia pinheads to come meet him and play my games.
Python is playing some of the EM games I have and walks into my Solid State room and shouts "Wait a minute! That's Dave Christensen!" and he's looking directly at the Strikes and Spares backglass. I'm "No Python, it's Kevin O'Connor" and I'm pointing at the signature. I actually have some of this conversation on video. He's "No, Kevin O'Connor does little S$%^ like this" (pointing to the more cartoon art surrounding the redhead). End of conversation.
This bugged me.
Python knew art like nobody else. What happened here? Was it something that Christensen started and Kevin picked up? I never got the chance to ask him but I think I got the answer (more later on that).
I knew that Stu from CPR did the re-draw for the reproduction glass. I asked him. His answer was that it was Christensen style but older Christensen, meaning that it pre-dated the style he was doing when SandS was released. Cut and paste was looking good.
A bit later and I'm talking to Greg Freres and I bring this up. He says that "That was Kevin O'Connor's Wife" (lucky guy). His opinion was that he copied Christensen's style because this was his first glass. He also had to impress his new boss. I feel that this was the answer. I'll ask Kevin some day. Maybe one of you will. It's still a fun story!
It's my favorite glass of all times.
(Python at my house: http://gapas.net/?page_id=64&wppa-album=2&wppa-cover=0&wppa-occur=1)
Quoted from xsvtoys:I have 2 with Christensen artwork next to Strikes and Spares. After extensive study and analysis, my feeling is that the redhead was not done by Christensen. There is a certain way he draws things, in particular, certain things, and there are differences in the style and details of the way certain things are drawn that make me think it was someone else.
I'll put the clip up on a hidden YouTube and share it here. It's short but I'm planning to use it in my next video.
Quoted from Grnrzr:Sorry I didn't see your questions earlier xzvtoys and Pinplayer1967. The kits are sold by acebathound from his website pinitech.com You need 5 outgassed display boards plus a kit to convert a machine to led. It is a diy kit, so you will also need to be able to desolder the old components and resolder in the new ones. I think they are awesome, especially because you can use white digits with different color 'gels' or filters (basically thin colored pieces of film like they use on a stage to change light colors) and get a lot of different colors. I have yellow filters on mine currently as that is what I liked the best, but it is less than a ten minute job to change them to red or back to white
here is a link to the thread here on inside for more info;
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/interest-check-diy-bally-led-displays-using-old-boards
I just ordered a set of these even though I think most of my displays are fine. I'd want them to be all the same anyway. I might start my restoration before the end of the year. All according to how long Police Force takes since it's next. Thanks for the tip - a lot cheaper than new LED displays and the filters make it easy to change colors.
New playfields can still be had. It's a matter of how much time and money you want to put into it. I have a game, new backglass, new playfield, new plastics, stencils, new displays, and new side rails. All I have to do is put it together!
Quoted from sohchx:Anyone else here prefer chrome legs over the gunmetal factory color? I am contemplating completely chroming out all of the trim and door on my machine. I think it will look amazing
Here's my thoughts. First, it's your game. You can do anything you want to make it look better or whatever. People might criticize you for it, but it's still your game. Now saying that, people need to decide whether they are restoring a game or re-inventing a game.
If you are restoring the game then everything you just said is out. No, you can't do it. And no LEDs either. I just restored a Police Force and took 1st place in restorations at the Atlanta SFGE. It plays like it's 1988 and it just rolled out of the box.
Now the Re-Inventing category. Times have changes since these games were made. Nobody in 1977 would ever see the need to chrome parts that weren't chrome already. Actually, the cost makes it make no sense even today. BUT, it's your game and if you don't care that you might be wasting money to build a game that costs more than it's worth simply because it will look awesome than I think you should go for it. My BOP 2.0 easily has $6K in it with chrome, new art, and MODs. Maybe more. I don't know if I could get it back out but I don't really care because I didn't build it for a profit, I built it to be freaking awesome. It's just like cars really.
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