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Bally / Stern Lamp Driver Board Tester

By AlanJ

2 years ago


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#1 2 years ago

Hello and greetings from the UK.

I've been thinking for a while about building a bally lamp driver board tester for the Bally Lamp driver boards ( AS-2518-23, AS-2518-14, Stern LDB100, Alltek replacements etc.)

Up to now, I've always tested a board in a game, but the problem is that not all games use all the circuits (especially the older games) and also it's a pain opening up a working game and swapping the boards around just to test a different board.

I've got a pile of old boards, and I wanted to test then and find out what needs fixing. So, I set about designing and building a stand-alone tester - Connect it up to a board and it will test all the 60 circuits in one go, quickly and easily.

It can test each circuit one at a time and show you the SCR Number and Driver chip number, so it's easy to figure out which ones to replace if not functioning correctly.

After several months of prototyping and building, I now have a working system, and willing to build a couple more if anyone is interested. Here are the details:

Introducing the Bally / Stern Lamp Driver Tester :

Introduction:
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I got a bit sick and tired of chasing my tail when trying to figure out why controlled lamps in a game were not working, so I designed and built myself a tester:
The Bally / Stern Lamp Driver Tester, “LDT” is a quick and easy way to test and diagnose problems with the Bally AS-2518-23 (or AS-2518-14) and Stern LD100, Lamp Driver Boards found in many Solid State Pinball Machines from the late 1970’s until the mid-1980’s. It will also test modern replacement boards such as the Alltek lamp driver board. These boards can control up to 60 feature lights in a game, and have 60 separate circuits, and are prone to common failure. It is often a time-consuming job to locate the correct circuit, needing reference to the game’s schematics/circuit diagrams to locate the correct circuit. The LDT eradicates all this and quickly identified which circuit(s) is at fault, without needing to dig out the schematics.

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When trying to diagnose a problem in a game whereby one (or more) of the feature lights are not working, there are several possibilities for the cause:

1. Blown/faulty bulb
2. Corroded or loose lamp socket
3. Wiring issue: loose or mis-connected
4. Connector issue
5. Header Pin issue
6. Lamp Driver board faults:
a. Locked on SCR’s
b. Blown open circuit SCR’s
c. Faulty MC14514 Multiplexor IC’s – U1, U2, U3, U4
d. Broken traces
e. Faulty resistors
f. Cracked or non-conducting (dirty) header pins
7. Disrupted communications between the MPU board and the Lamp Driver Board

Often you can waste a lot of time going round in circles trying to figure out what the issue is. The LDT speeds up and simplifies the process by helping you identify board issues, blown SCR’s, faulty U1-U4 IC’s, cracked header pins, etc. It also ensures the J4 header connector (the one that connects to the MPU) is working correctly. The LDT will show you which of the 60 circuits are faulty very quickly.

It is a nice feeling to know that your lamp driver board has been fully tested, and, where necessary repaired to fully 100% working order. It is then easy to diagnose any remaining non, working lamp issues because you know the board is 1100% working, and so can look at issues 1-4 above.

With the LDT, a board can be tested either in-situ, without having to remove from the machine, or can be removed from the game, and tested on the bench. The LDT provides its own power source and also provides power to the Bally or Stern Lamp Driver board that is being tested, so is a complete stand-alone test rig.

Details:
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The LDT is a micro-computer controlled test system, utilising an ESP32s processor system which sends power and test signals to the Lamp Driver board, and performs a variety of different tests which enable you to quickly identify any faulty components. The main board consists of the ESP32s processor, a power regulator board, an LCD display and some drive components, along with a header connector to connect up to the lamp driver board (J4) and the 3 Led display boards. Each of the Led display boards, connects on to the relevant J1, J2, J3 header on the lamp driver board. Each board is labelled J1, J2, J3, so it is easy to identify which board should go where.

Testing – In-Situ
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There are two ways to test a lamp driver board whist installed in a game:

Using the game’s in-built lamp test:
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We can use the games in-build lamp test (in the system self-tests), to check if the lamp driver board is fully working.

1. Remove the J1,J2,J3 connectors from the lamp driver board. Leave j4 connected
2. Install the 3 LED display boards onto their named header pins
3. Connect up the fly lead to a common controlled lamp point (e.g. on the back of the insert door)
4. Power up the game and go into self-test, then lamp driver test (i.e. press the inside coin door self-test button once).
5. All the leds on the 3 boards should flash on and off. Any locked on, or non lighting leds indicate an issue, note the SCR “Q” number printed on the left hand side of each board next to each Led – this is probably at fault.

If any faults are found, remove the board to work on the bench and follow the “Testing – on the bench” procedure below.

Using the LDT Controller:
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1. Remove the J1,J2,J3,J4 connectors
2. Install the 3 LED display boards onto their named header pins
3. Install the header connector from the LDT controller to J4 on the lamp driver board
4. Power up the LDT (but leave the game switched off).
5. Follow the instructions for “Testing – on the bench” below.

Testing – on the bench:
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This is the preferred method of testing, it takes very little effort to remove a lamp driver board from game, remove two screws and unplug 4 push on connectors.
With the board out of the machine and on the bench:

1. Install the 3 LED display boards onto their named header pins
2. Install the header connector from the LDT controller to J4 on the lamp driver board
3. Power up the LDT.
4. Perform the 3 tests: “Lock on”, “Auto SCR” and “Single SCR” tests. These are described in detail below.

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Power Up

On initial Power the LDT controller will display an opening message on the LCD display, along with a version number. After a second or two this will disappear, and a message asking you to press start for the next test.
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Lock On Test
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The first test is the “Lock On” test, Press start to commence the test. The system will apply flashing power to the board, and any faulty circuits that are “Locked on” will show up, as their corresponding LED will flash. For a perfect board, no LEDS should light at this stage. If any Leds flash, note the Q number which is printed on each LED display board to the left of each Led.

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Locked on issues are normally caused by a faulty SCR which has short circuited, so test or replace the SCR’s you have identified by their Q numbers. All SCR’s on the board are clearly labelled with their Q number. It is sometimes possible to get a faulty drive chip (these are the MC14514 IC’s at U1-U4). It is much easier to replace a 3 pinned SCR, rather than soldered in 24-pin IC, so I generally replace the SCR first, and if the problem persists, it’s more likely to be the IC.

All locked on issues should be resolved first, before carrying on with the other tests.

Press Stop to move onto the next test:

Auto SCR test
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Test 2 is an automated run through each of the 60 lamp driver circuits, starting on J1 , pin 28 down to pin 1; then J2 pins 23 down to 1 then, J3, pin 27 down to pin 1 (note there is no led connected to pin 28 on J3).

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This is a very quick way to spot any non-working circuits. I use it to quickly spot any circuits that are not working.

The test can be repeated as many times as you like, or move onto:

Single SCR test
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Test 3 is an individual step through test of each circuit. the Fwd (Start) and Back (Stop) buttons are used to move to the next or previous circuit. The LCD display shows the Q number of the SCR as well as the chip number and pin output, these are all needed to easily and quickly fix and non working circuits. The Q# is also printed on each led pcb next to the led.

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This is the most useful test because you can step through each circuit one at a time and check they are working. For any non-working circuit, you are presented with all the information you need to further diagnose the issue, the LCD display shows:

• SCR “Q” number, so you can check out (or just) replace that SCR
• The IC Number, U1 – U4 – If you get a lot of non working circuits, that all relate the the same U IC, then you can probably assume it’s an issue with the IC or the signals to / from that IC.
• The IC Pin number – which output pin of the U1-4 IC is responsible for this circuit. Use a logic probe to test to see if that pin is correctly switching to high from low when the circuit is activated.
• The IC Logic output #. The MC14514 IC’s each take 4 inputs and convert into a binary multiplexed output 00-15, 15 is not connected to any lamp circuit, so 00-15 gives 15 lamps circuits that each IC can control. 4 X 15 = 60 circuits in total. If several circuits are out and they are all on the same logic output #, then suspect an issue with the control signals – usually a cracked header pin on J4.

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To exit the tests, either press Fwd at the end of J3 (Pin1) or press Back at the start of J1 – (Pin 28), you can either repeat the tests, or the system returns to test number 1.

You can switch the tester off at any time.

Other information
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I will be making a limited number of these for sale, each item will be fully built and tested and will include the wiring connectors to connect the controller to the lamp driver board J4, and the common feed to the 3 led display board.

For UK customers a UK plug power supply is provided. (for overseas customers, please provide your own DC power source. (You can use the on-board power jack (centre positive), or can connect directly to the inputs of the power regulator board – the power regulator is capable of receiving any DC voltage from 7-30v, it then converts this to 5v required by the tester and the lamp driver board.)

Easy Software Updates
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The system comes with built in Wi-fi to enable easy software updates OTA – “over the air”.

As the software evolves (from other user feedback) and we add more tests or better features, we need an easy way for you to be able to update the firmware. I will make available a file for download that can be uploaded to the tester, using a laptop, tablet or phone.

The LDT created its own Wi-fi access point, and connecting your device to this, allows you to perform a firmware update.

Next Steps
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I will be making a small number of these towards the end of this month / early May. Price TBD but around £125 GBP + Shipping, based on parts costs and the time to build and test each one.

Open to suggestions on how to improve in future. I could also expand it to test other Lamp drivers, eg the two aux driver boards (although in my own experience these seem a) more robust and b) far easier to fix, compared to the main LDB.

On a final note. I used this tester to test, diagnose and repair 7 or my 8 broken Bally & Stern Lamp Driver boards, many had faulty SCR's and 4 boards also had blown MC14514 IC's, requiring removal, socketing and replacement. The tester helped my easily and quickly figure out which components to replace in each case. The 8th board durned out to be beyond economical repair, many of the signal traces around the pcb had been completely eaten away by acid damage (I guess from a leaky MPU battery above!). I could repair it but it's never going to look pretty!

Thanks for reading, best regards,
Alan

YOUTUBE video of it in action

PS More images:

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#3 2 years ago

Nicely done!

#4 2 years ago

Super impressive. I want one!

#5 2 years ago

Well done!
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#6 2 years ago

In the video, the first test is the most useful.
Stepping to individual lamps automatically or manually, as is done in subsequent tests doesn't seem that useful to me.

The really useful test to add is blinking every lamp at the same time as is done in a real game. Is there anything that prevents that test from being added?
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#7 2 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Stepping to individual lamps automatically or manually, as is done in subsequent tests doesn't seem that useful to me.

That test is very useful in game though from the test ROM.

I've thought about making testers like this for all the boards but didn't have the gumption to do it. Congrats to the op.

#8 2 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Stepping to individual lamps automatically or manually, as is done in subsequent tests doesn't seem that useful to me.

The brown box tester just steps through each lamp automatically/manually. I've found that helpful.

#9 2 years ago
Quoted from slochar:

That test is very useful in game though from the test ROM.

How so @slochar?
Why would blinking one lamp, that you have to spend time advancing to, be better than blinking all lights?

The stepping reminds of testing WMS System 3-7 driver boards where there is no way to "pause" the test on a particular solenoid drive circuit. When trying to track down a logic issue that might cause this, you have to wait for the test to "come around again" and then it's just the one pulse, and you have to wait again.

On the Bally/Stern lamp driver boards, one of the common failure is fractured solder joints on the SCRs. Blinking all lamps lets you wiggle the SCR to see if that is the issue.

Help me understand.
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#10 2 years ago

individual lamp test would be for finding lamp address or lamp data issues. If a wrong lamp lights up working backwards through the truth table you can figure out what is going wrong on the decoder. Using a logic probe / scope can find the bad address/data though too probably quicker.

#11 2 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Help me understand.

More options=better

Depends on what you are trying to do. Your wiggle the SCR thing? Perfect for all lamps. Looking for shorts on your playfield lamps? Individual. If you see more than one lighting, you have an issue.

Quoted from barakandl:

individual lamp test would be for finding lamp address or lamp data issues.

I should probably add to the test rom the ability to light all lamps on an input data line or outputs. Shouldn't be that involved.

#12 2 years ago
Quoted from slochar:

More options=better

OK. I can buy that.

I've never seen a failed 4514 light more than one lamp. I suppose it could happen.
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#13 2 years ago

It's more for checking the wiring in the game.

#14 2 years ago

What an awesome board!

#15 2 years ago
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#16 2 years ago

I'd love to be added to the list to buy one (if you are keeping a list right now)

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#17 1 year ago

Hey everyone - thanks for the feedback.

I tried running every lamp on at the same time, but we get a current draw issue then - I'm only using a 2N4403 to switch the power to each SCR on.

Having had some pretty nasty board to sort out, I personally found the individual test the best, as it shows you the IC - U1 - U4 and the pin out (logical and physical), and this helps you logic probe and also figure out if its an scr or an IC.

I am happy to look at other test or ways to improve this as we move forward. I guess I could flash the lamps on in groups quickly to simulate all on - I'll happily have a look at that tomorrow (getting late here in UK).

I have just added a nice feature to the software - "Over The Air" updates - so I can evolve the software to add additional tests now based on what users ask me for, and I can email the updates out to all users. The new firmware can be installed from your laptop, desktop or phone by connecting wirelessly to the tester - it creates its own Wi-Fi access point (or, if you want, it can connect to your wi-fi network whenever it powers up).

I am not planning on making many of these - it's a limited audience to be honest - i.e. if you only have one bally / stern SS and have a lamp issue - then easy to fix the board the traditional way, but if you have a pile of boards sat there that need testing, or you have lots of machines to refurb (like me), then it can certainly help.

Price wise, £100 (That's 100 GBP) plus £20 tracked shipping to USA.

Each item is fully built and tested with the latest software installed, and complete with the wiring connectors to connect the tester to the lamp driver board and the power feed wire daisy-chained to the 3 led display boards.

I only have UK power supplies with a UK 3 pin plug, so you will need to provide your own power supply - anything from around 7v up to 30v DC will power it. (I use 10v power packs - just cos I have plenty lying around).

Please message me if you want one. I made the first batch of 5 today and will make another 5 in a week or so. If there is more demand I'll order more parts and build more.

Many thanks so far. Pinside is awesome. Ps in the UK we have pinballinfo.com - that's the UK forum, I am well known there as "AlanJ"

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#18 1 year ago

Very cool set. Been interested in doing some Bally stuff, but just don't have the time.

#19 1 year ago

Just another quick update. I have amended the system so the "Auto test" is now replaced with an "All Lamps" test - it flashes all the Leds on at the same time, rather than lighting one at a time - a much better way to test all the circuits.

it was a pretty easy change to make.

Latest s/w is now V2.04.

Pics show the new All Leds screen and a board with the leds flashing.

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#20 1 year ago

Very nice!
I really like what you’ve done.

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#21 1 year ago

Thanks ChrisHibler - much appreciated. Thank you for your suggestion above for the all lamps test. I have managed it by switching on all 4 of the U1-U4 chips. then just run through the 0-14 addresses, and power the scr's for 5 ms each. That lights 4 or 5 leds at once and so the effect is of all the leds flashing really quickly. I tested on a 100% working board and also on a board with several blown SCR's and also a board with a duff U3. it was easy enough to see the faulty circuits.

#22 1 year ago

If I may ask, there looks to be a 750 ohm and a 180 ohm resistor, assumed to be in series with the LED and power.

Why two resistors instead of one 1K resistor.

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#23 1 year ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

If I may ask, there looks to be a 750 ohm and a 180 ohm resistor, assumed to be in series with the LED and power.
Why two resistors instead of one 1K resistor.

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One is for the voltage drop for the LED source. The other is the “bypass” resistor for the SCR load to eliminate flickering. Same concept as my adapters or Altek driver boards.

#24 1 year ago
Quoted from HHaase:

One is for the voltage drop for the LED source. The other is the “bypass” resistor for the SCR load to eliminate flickering. Same concept as my adapters or Altek driver boards.

HHaase can you scribble a schematic for that on a napkin and post it here for me?
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#25 1 year ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

If I may ask, there looks to be a 750 ohm and a 180 ohm resistor, assumed to be in series with the LED and power.
Why two resistors instead of one 1K resistor.

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As someone replied above - one (180R) is to limit the current to the Led, the other (750R) allows the SCR to stay on properly as the Led on its own doesn't draw enough current.

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#26 1 year ago
Quoted from AlanJ:

Hey everyone - thanks for the feedback.
I tried running every lamp on at the same time, but we get a current draw issue then

Quoted from AlanJ:

As someone replied above - one (180R) is to limit the current to the Led, the other (750R) allows the SCR to stay on properly as the Led on its own doesn't draw enough current.

The LEDs you are using appear to be high brightness type. You can likely increase the current limiting resistor value probably up to even 3K and get good enough brightness for an indicator LED. On a 5v supply I generally just go with a 1K resistor and the high brightness greens ones can still be obnoxiously bright. The 20mA LED rating is for the ancient ones.

#27 1 year ago

barakandl I'm going to fiddle around with some personal use stuff. What SM LEDs do you use?
Thanks!
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#28 1 year ago

I recreated the Stern Spike single LED PF insert boards and used HL-AM-2835 LED beads with an 180ohm resistor. Not the exact match to what stern was using, but at 180ohm current limit they match the brightness of Stern's LED bead. It is a bigger bead with a wide angle, you get a slightly better light spread for a larger insert, less spotlight.

https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Light-Emitting-Diodes-LED_HONGLITRONIC-Hongli-Zhihui-HONGLITRONIC-HL-AM-2835D1W-S1-08-HR3_C210322.html

for just basic indicator LEDs on circuit boards I use 0805 LED with 1K current limit resistor on a 5v supply. Generally I starting to like yellow over green or red, but will sometimes you red/yel/green like on the WPC89 MPU i made the LEDs like a stop light. Green good, yellow alert, red bad is the general idea with multiple colors.

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#29 1 year ago

Thanks everyone, nearly all sold, just one left.

#30 1 year ago

Congratulations on a successful product!
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#31 1 year ago

Finally playing around with the tester I got from Alan. First board I tested checked out 100% (expected), second board has one SCR out (expected), third board had fewer out than expected since it is CRUSTY.
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This one however is throwing me for a loop. Tons of things out on the ALL ON test and when I cycle through the single lamp test, the wrong LED lights up for the SCR it’s supposed to be testing. Maybe an issue with the chips? This board was pulled from Xenon that the seller had hooked the MPU up wrong and blew up.

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#32 1 year ago

I'd check and clean the header pins on J4, a bad connection there can result in weird results.

#33 1 year ago

Thanks! I'll check the solder joints. That board (and pins) was by far the "cleanest" of the bunch. Maybe needs a reflow though.

#34 1 year ago
Quoted from play_pinball:

Thanks! I'll check the solder joints. That board (and pins) was by far the "cleanest" of the bunch. Maybe needs a reflow though.

All Bally/Stern lamp driver boards should have the .100 headers replaced.
The plating wears off the pins, they get bent, and cracked solder joints are always an issue.
2 cents.
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#35 1 year ago

Looking to pick up a Bally SS Lamp board tester. Are any of these still available? Probably a long shot...Thanks

#36 1 year ago

All else fails, you can make one with an AT computer power supply, four switches, a hobby box, and a string of LEDs.

I like mine. Several years ago I posted what I made. It was from Leon’s creative mind.

#37 1 year ago
Quoted from Big_Bob:

Looking to pick up a Bally SS Lamp board tester. Are any of these still available? Probably a long shot...Thanks

Quoted from Billc479:

All else fails, you can make one with an AT computer power supply, four switches, a hobby box, and a string of LEDs.
I like mine. Several years ago I posted what I made. It was from Leon’s creative mind.

ages ago I posted the SCR map which will help get you started on the annoying part, tracing out the lines on the LDB schematic.

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#38 1 year ago

Baraksndl - I think I used your sheet, can’t remember.

I also modified Leon’s tester to include testing the coin lockout and flippers. Five 9 volt batteries gave me the power need to energize the flipper relay, and then just added a circuit to show whether the flippers were going to get power.

I think I posted my tester under the homemade tools thread, but I’m not sure. I’m on the road, so too difficult to search.

#39 1 year ago

Ok folks, I've had two requests for these testers in the last few days (thank you I do appreciate it!). So, I will consider another run of 10 units, assuming we can get a bit more commitment? Anyone else in for one?

Fully built & tested and working, £100 GBP + Shipping £20 International Tracked and Signed.

Kit format - all parts provided, firmware flashed to the ESP32s board (you just need to solder & crimp a few wires), £60 GBP + + Shipping £20 International Tracked and Signed.

Alternative delivery: Economy Delivery (not tracked, so at your risk) £8.

#40 1 year ago

This looks to be the best tester of its type so come on folks and step right up! I want my tester!

#41 1 year ago

Hello

I would be interested in a kit form. I am in Canada.

Thanks

#43 1 year ago

I'd be interested in a kit.

#44 1 year ago

I am interested in kit.

#45 1 year ago

I’d take a tester kit as well.

#46 1 year ago

I would be in for a kit as well.

#47 1 year ago

Mark me down for a kit.

#49 1 year ago

I’m interested in a kit as well.

#50 1 year ago

Count me in for one, Thanks

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