(Topic ID: 253009)
Victorville, CA
Quoted from e3thomas:Ball will not eject from both "collect bonus" holes on playfield, bonus value continues to run.
Likely this score motor sw.
Capture (resized).PNGThis is the score motor. Numbering starts at the left, and lettering from the bottom up. Easiest thing to do is the loosen the screws a bit and clean the contacts with some 91# rubbing alcohol and a swab, then lightly sand with 600# paper. Be sure no threads from the swab get left behind.
Bally (resized).jpgWith respect to my good friend, currieddog , I don't recommend getting into the motor unless you're more experienced, or certain it's absolutely necessary.
If you'd like to try a phone call, send me your cellphone number in a private message and I'll make a first reply with a text message.
FWIW, read what another Sea Ray owner had to say here
https://pinside.com/pinball/community/pinsiders/howardr/feedback
Quoted from HowardR:I don't recommend getting into the motor unless you're more experienced, or certain it's absolutely necessary.
I don't think the score motor is something to get nervous about as long as care is taken, but I do know that HowardR has a very good rep for problem solving via phone and it would be a good idea to take him up on the offer.
I did, waiting for a reply
I little background on me, I have done fairly extensive work on pins, replacing and cleaning contacts, coils, drop targets, playfield parts, light sockets, etc.
However I am poor on diagnosis, Pinside folks have been very helpful, give me direction with a pic or 2. We have fixed everything so far. I have 3 EMs, love 'em!
Quoted from e3thomas:I little background on me, I have done fairly extensive work on pins, replacing and cleaning contacts, coils, drop targets, playfield parts, light sockets, etc.
Take a look at the score motor contact then. It's 6A. and check 6B while you're at it.
Capture (resized).PNGWe found that the problem was that the step down arm on the Bonus unit had broken, which allowed the step down solenoid plunger to fall out.
This kept the Bonus unit zero switch in currieddog 's above post #2 from ever closing.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bally-sea-ray-1971#post-5243155
pasted_image (resized).pngQuoted from HowardR:which allowed the step down solenoid plunger to fall out.
Well, that'll do it!!
1 week later
Hi guys, more problems with Sea Ray, when the ball hits anywhere on the playfield the up-post pops up, will not go down.
When you roll over the down post button, the post tries to go down but pops right back up.
When the ball exits the post goes down as it should.
Also, 2 bonus lights are lit in stead of one below the up-post mushroom.
I noticed the up-post relay coil is very burnt as will not energize when I move it manually.
Sea Ray (resized).jpgI would look at the switch on your yellow "Up Post" mushroom bumper. If it's stuck on, it's going to constantly raise your post. The post might be going down after losing a ball because of the ball index relay opening. Then as soon as you score any points the ball index switch closes. Then a stuck switch on that mushroom bumper would cause your post to always be up until you lose the ball again. Just speculating without looking at a schematic
Just noticed that there is an "Up Post" rollover in that left squiggly lane. Since it wasn't the yellow mushroom bumper, a stuck switch in that rollover lane could have the same effect.
Does that yellow mushroom bumper score points or does it just trigger the up post?
If it's not supposed to score points that might be why it's not triggering the up post while everything else does. It takes a score (10, 100, or 1000) to trigger the ball index. I'm not sure if the ball index needs to be activated in order for the up/down post to work though.
Breaking news!
I was doing a visual inspection and noticed a screw laying on the up-post relay switches, removed it, now the up-post problem is solved!
Next problem, 2 bonus lights are lit occasionally when only one should be lit.
Bonus lights flicker also.
These are under the yellow mushroom bumper.
Also extra ball light does not light and trigger in the left lane.
Here are pics of the playfield and relays involved.
IMG_5991 (resized).JPGIMG_5992 (resized).JPGIMG_5993 (resized).JPGIMG_5994 (resized).JPGQuoted from e3thomas:2 bonus lights are lit occasionally when only one should be lit.
Check the 00-90 disk. And check the bulb and socket for the Extra Ball lite.
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Good call curriedog!
I looked at the 0-90 disk, the wiper fingers were touching 2 contacts, I aligned them and tightened the center screw which was loose.
As far as the extra ball light, I think I looked at it when it was not supposed to be on, seems to be OK now.
What do I owe you?
The Pinside folks have been invaluable to me as I have been unable to find a good tech in my neck of the woods.
Thanks so much!
Ron
IMG_5999 (resized).JPGQuoted from e3thomas:What do I owe you?
Two free plays on it, next time I'm in CA!!
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