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Bally Reproduction Playfields that will never be?


By erozens

7 years ago



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#1 7 years ago

Bally KISS, Rolling Stones, Evel Knievel

I'm lucky to already have a reproduction playfield installed on my KISS, I assume it's an IPB but I'm not sure. I've been told by numerous others that licensing is the biggest hurdle for certain titles and for that reason Stones or EK will probably never be reproduced. Is that true or is there any hope for these old Bally's?

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#2 7 years ago

Kiss has been done a couple times.

There are still NOS Evel playfields kicking around.

The only one I hear will never be remade is Space Invaders because Taito wants too much coin for the little space buggers on the inserts.

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#3 7 years ago

Fireball.

#4 7 years ago

BAA only sold out of NOS Fireball Classic & II playfields sometime last year.

There were NOS Fireball Classic playfields at the OH show last month.

#5 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

BAA only sold out of NOS Fireball Classic & II playfields sometime last year.
There were NOS Fireball Classic playfields at the OH show last month.

I'm talking about the real deal. I'd line up to get one.

#6 7 years ago

i know of a fireball classic nos pf but its not for sale..maybe at some point he will sell it

#7 7 years ago
Quoted from D_Graunch:

I'm talking about the real deal. I'd line up to get one.

They were the real deal.

NOS = New Old Stock.

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Reproductions made by companies other than the original Bally are considered taboo by many collectors.

#8 7 years ago

LOL...you guys are so in for some surprises.....

#9 7 years ago
Quoted from Stu:

LOL...you guys are so in for some surprises.....

Cool, surprise us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

#10 7 years ago

We've had an arrangement for EK stuff for some time now ... so playfields, backglasses for those are possible ...

#11 7 years ago

I have a NOS Captain Fantastic playfield that I'll sell for the $500 I have into it.

John P. Dayhuff
Battle Creek, Mi.
269-979-3836

#12 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

They were the real deal.
NOS = New Old Stock.
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Reproductions made by companies other than the original Bally are considered taboo by many collectors.

You said Fireball Classic and Fireball II. I'm talking about the EM Fireball. Man, say it ain't so!

#14 7 years ago
Quoted from Stu:

LOL...you guys are so in for some surprises.....

Oh sweet, so Future Spa is getting done?

#15 7 years ago

I guess for me seeing the work like CPR does, how could a brand new, state-of-the-art, beautifully clearcoated playfield EVER be a bad thing? I can truly appreciate "NOS" but isn't the tecnology and manufacturing of today's reproduction playfields far superior? Even if an NOS playfield is crispy white, is it really "Old" anymore if it gets a modern day clearcoat to help protect it? I guess it's like everything else, some people like to keep it original and I respect that. I really do.

#16 7 years ago
Quoted from D_Graunch:

You said Fireball Classic and Fireball II. I'm talking about the EM Fireball. Man, say it ain't so!

Fireball EM is probably the best EM there is!

#17 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Fireball EM is probably the best EM there is!

There are easily a 1000 banged up Fireball playfields that could use a swap.

#18 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Fireball EM is probably the best EM there is!

Can you tell me what the difference are between FB and FB Classic? I'm interested in your opion here!!

Apart from the EM and SS, some of the plastics and Zipper flippers they appear very much the same. I have the classic, but not had an opertunity to play the FB 1971 version.

Come to think of it, i don't think i have ever played a zipper flipper machine at all

#19 7 years ago
Quoted from Chrisbee:

Can you tell me what the difference are between FB EM and FB Classic?

Zipper flippers and you can choose electronic sounds as an option.

#20 7 years ago

Classic has a playfield bonus and dreadlocks, as well.

#21 7 years ago

Both EM and Classic have the hardest skillshot in pinball.

#22 7 years ago

I would buy the EM Fireball playfield if they were remade... back glass was repro at one point. I bet if CPR did the plastics, playfields and back glass they would sell out fast....

#23 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Fireball EM is probably the best EM there is!

Agreed, we love Fireball. I think Fireball is my wife's favorite game.

How would CPR make that playfield? Thinking about the skill shot portion and the way the wood curves up. Would they just ship it flat and then the customer bends that piece of the wood? I wonder how they did that at the factory? Isn't 4 million BC similar, and I remember that Cybernaut has a raised portion, too.

I would definitely get in line for a new Fireball playfield, no doubt.

#24 7 years ago
Quoted from Stu:

LOL...you guys are so in for some surprises.....

I hope it's the game I heard about at the Ohio show. Still a lot of work yet to be done on it... But I heard it's in the works.

-Steve Ridge
Louisville, KY

#25 7 years ago

Frontier?? Backglasses, PF's and Plastics would rock.

#26 7 years ago
Quoted from robotronjohn:

I would buy the EM Fireball playfield if they were remade... back glass was repro at one point. I bet if CPR did the plastics, playfields and back glass they would sell out fast....

I picked up a set of repro Fireball plastics off of Mr. Pinball. I believe they were from a small batch that David Gersic ran? If I recall, they're not as thick as the originals, but it was a very nice run and much needed on my end.

Quoted from BrianBannon:

Thinking about the skill shot portion and the way the wood curves up.

This is why it will never get repro'd. I've bent wood before and it isn't easy. It would have to be done before any art was applied to the playfield.

#27 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Both EM and Classic have the hardest skillshot in pinball.

Fireball has probably once of the most rewarding skill shots in pinball. Hitting it really puts you ahead in the game a bunch.

My vote is for WOF as having the hardest skill shot. I think out of two years of ownership I only hit it around 10 times.

#28 7 years ago
Quoted from Xenon75:

Frontier?? Backglasses, PF's and Plastics would rock.

One of the manliest pins ever. I had the pleasure of playing one with a NOS playfield recently. It is on my list.

#29 7 years ago

Thinking about the skill shot portion and the way the wood curves up.

This is why it will never get repro'd. I've bent wood before and it isn't easy. It would have to be done before any art was applied to the playfield.

The whole bent wood Fireball thing is very simple. Very easy to repo.

There is a tiny "shipping tab" that holds the slotted section of the playfield intact during silkscreening.

When you are ready to swap, the restorer cuts out the notch with 2 strokes of a handsaw.

A "Z Plate" screws into the back of the playfield, pushing the slotted section of the playfield upwards. That's all there is to it.

Look at this NOS Fireball playfield I have:

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#30 7 years ago
Quoted from Xenon75:

Frontier?? Backglasses, PF's and Plastics would rock.

Please yes. Probably not gonna happen but I'd be so excited if it did. I just wheeled in a Frontier half an hour ago and it has a trashed playfield, so the search for an NOS begins -- does anyone have one they would part with?

#31 7 years ago

That sure is a pretty playfield Vid, whatcha gonna do with it?

#32 7 years ago
Quoted from erozens:

That sure is a pretty playfield Vid, whatcha gonna do with it?

Clear coat it and drop it into one hell of a great game.

Unless Stu needs it first.

#33 7 years ago

Ive got an NOS Rolling stones PF.

#34 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

The whole bent wood Fireball thing is very simple. Very easy to repo.
There is a tiny "shipping tab" that holds the slotted section of the playfield intact during silkscreening.
When you are ready to swap, the restorer cuts out the notch with 2 strokes of a handsaw.
A "Z Plate" screws into the back of the playfield, pushing the slotted section of the playfield upwards. That's all there is to it.
Look at this NOS Fireball playfield I have:

Nice.. too bad its not the EM playfield....

#35 7 years ago
Quoted from robotronjohn:

Nice.. too bad its not the EM playfield....

I know someone who has one of those too.

He always says he'll sell it to me for $2500, LOL.

#36 7 years ago

I have the older bally rolling stones pf dont know why this site has made it the new stern machine.
the picture on top the early ss one on the left thats the nos pf i have.
for sale if anyone is interested PM me.

#37 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I know someone who has one of those too.
He always says he'll sell it to me for $2500, LOL.

NOS? That's actually good price for "the collector" out there! I'd be willing to bet that it may possibly be the only one out there.

For half of that, he'd have me possibly digging in my couch for some extra change.

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