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Bally Playboy Too Racy For Public Family-Oriented Setting?

By Dooskie

7 years ago


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“Is it a bad idea to have a Bally Playboy pinball machine at a family-oriented public golf course?”

  • Yes! You want the kids going to the course to play golf, not drool in front of the pinball machine all day. 6 votes
    6%
  • No! Kids see lots worse every day on the Internet. 19 votes
    18%
  • No! Don't be a prude. It's only a pinball machine. 31 votes
    29%
  • Yes! It's a family-friendly business, not a strip club. Have some common sense! 51 votes
    48%

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#38 7 years ago

If you've got a problem with Bally Playboy then it's probably safe to stay away from most 70s/80s SS pins. Skateball and Future Spa have sexy images all over and Centaur and Gorgar have satanic images all over.

Bally Playboy is probably the least offensive of the early SS pins. I don't remember the sounds but they probably won't arouse someone like Xenon.

If it was me, I would put it in there and deal with the complaints if there were any (which I imagine there wouldn't). You'll just have to decide for yourself.

#42 7 years ago
Quoted from Electrocute:

Name the pinball machine who's theme was based on a porno mag from the 70's? How difficult was that question.

Name the pinball machine who's theme is based on a non-porno, lifestyle mag from 2016? That was probably pretty difficult.

#45 7 years ago
Quoted from GotAQuestion:

Playboy is the world's most recognized name in pornography.

No, my fine sir. That is the Internet.

I'm curious do parents monitor their kids' use of the internet? It seems they give their children a phone at a younger age than I saw porn. I think I saw my first porn on Cinemax in 6th grade at a friend's house. Never looked at a Playboy till College and that's probably the only one I've ever looked at. I've seen more SI Swimsuit mags.

Playboy has become irrelevant and has been so for many years. I do like their new redesign though. Very stylish.

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#49 7 years ago
Quoted from BrewinBombers:

Is Bally Playboy a wise business decision for OP?

This should be changed to "Is pinball a wise business decision for OP?"

I mean why even put the machines in public. It's just depreciating the condition and worth of the machines and I would imagine the return isn't covering that.

Pinball is inherently offensive. From the days it was considered gambing and illegal, to the heydays of arcades when they were corrupting the younger generation, to today when the themes of yesterday must be shielded from our children despite the fact they hold all of that and more in the palm of their hand.

Honestly pinball's seedier nature is what brought most of us into the community. The feeling as a kid of doing something that might be considered wrong by our parents. Most children will rebel against their parents. It seems like the older generation understood that providing mild forms of rebellion was better than letting them find their own and possibly more destructive ways

In fact I kind of want to rebel against the people on here, find a Playboy and put it in a Family Fun Center.

#51 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

The only thing I had a problem with is the old lady in the grotto.

She's my favorite.

#54 7 years ago
Quoted from BrewinBombers:

I believe that pinball's "seedier nature" is widely unknown or forgotten outside of this community. I've always lived in pretty socially conservative areas of the US and I've never heard a single objection to a pinball machine.

No objections really but a sidewards glance. It happens with video games as well. Video Games have become a little more acceptable but still aren't on par with movies or books in critical circles. Just watch a morning show talk about a video game. Or watch a network show that has someone playing a video game of today with the beeps and boops of Pac-Man.

#55 7 years ago
Quoted from Electrocute:

I believe they still have some nice stories, cartoons and some exciting toys in the 2016 playboy magazine. Maybe slip one into your kids stocking if it's no longer offensive.

Good idea. I was looking for a good stocking stuffer.

#61 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

A 1972 Playboy magazine issue included an article about the history of pinball and shortly after the sales of pinball machines started to skyrocket.
Included in this article was the first printed discussion of having pinball machines in the home as opposed to an arcade setting and shortly after many did.
Some excerpts pinball historian Russ Jensen wrote in regards to that article.
"The article itself began by saying: "Despite all the blather about airplanes and racing cars, the ultimate commingling of man and machine still takes place at the silk smooth flipper buttons of a well tuned pinball machine. No other human endeavor so involves skills of mind and body with the challenging intricacies of a mechanical toy. Nowhere else are the rewards as rich, or the sorrows as devastating."
"The last part of the article dealt with the use of pinballs in the home. The first comment made was that "the absence of recent innovations makes flipper machines especially attractive toys for individuals who want to buy one for their own apartment or game room". The author then remarked that home games should be set for non-coin operation, since to use coins could make them in violation of the law in some localities.
Buying home games was said to be fairly easy; more and more people doing it than ever before. The process of buying a pingame was then likened to that of buying an automobile, with pinball having its own "big three": Bally, Gottlieb, and Williams."
"Included with the Playboy article was a two page "centerfold" depicting three typical pinball machines of the current time. These were Williams' single-player game SUPER STAR, Gottlieb's two-player KING KOOL, and Bally's four-player, the now "classic" FIREBALL."
"

That might be a cool issue to have along with those centerfolds.

Quoted from Luzur:

This pretty much a America/Nudity question.

It's amazing to me that in my short lifetime the religious censorship of sex/nudity has turned into the woke/enlightened censorship of sex/nudity. I don't let others beliefs bother me I just find it interesting.

#64 7 years ago
Quoted from trunchbull:

Would you say the same if it were an Out Magazine pin?

I don't think they would make an Out magazine pin. Not enough interest.

Why would we have a problem with gays or lesbians on a pin if we don't care about boobs and demons?

#74 7 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

The problem with all the anti-PC ranting is this...
It's a simple question. Does having a Playboy game at a golf course frequented by kids and families have the potential to offend or annoy customers?
The answer is obviously, strikingly, 100 percent yes. So why bother with it when there's plenty of other games to choose from? To strike a blow against political correctness?
Pretty petty battle to fight, especially when there's customers involved.

I'm not really fighting anti-PC. I'm just confused as to why Bally Playboy is any more offensive than the DE Star Trek, Bally Star Trek, or Jungle Lord that are found in the same location. It doesn't have any sexual sounds. It doesn't show any more skin than the other three games listed.
If you're afraid having the game will tip kids off to the existence of Playboy, that's interesting. I'm not sure where I would go today to be able to buy a Playboy magazine and I'm sure kids would have the same trouble. I don't think the new mag even comes in a bag. Playboy just doesn't have the same name recognition as when the game was produced.

#81 7 years ago
Quoted from trunchbull:

I think it's really just the theme - Star Trek sort of gets a pass because it's "about" something else, even if Uhura has massive jugs, but Playboy is a straight up porn mag. Star Trek is a friendly pin that got a little fucky, while Playboy is FUCKING: THE GAME, only tamed down enough to be publicly appropriate. It's probably just a matter of intent when you consider objections.

You'd be shocked, haha. I still want to see a mod of the Stern Playboy where the foldout reveals an article, though, I think that'd be hilarious.

How can it be Fucking: The Game when there is none of that? Not even in the mag. I think you're letting you're imagination run wild. Playboy is not a porn mag. It has been in the past but that's not what it was in the beginning or now. It was known for it's short stories from noted authors and cartoons by renowned cartoonists besides the nude pictorials. I'm not a fan of Playboy at all but to make generalizations based on your limited knowledge isn't right. By your definition I guess Robert Mapplethorpe is a porno photographer that makes Fucking: The Picture.

If you want to imagine a story for Playboy, it's about women who have hot tub business meetings. The elderly lady is the receptionist and the guy is the janitor. Problem solved.

#82 7 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

You don't understand why some moms or super sensitive liberal type dads might not like to see a playboy game?
I think you are playing dumb. I don't care, I like the playboy game. But we live in the real world not some weird rhetorical question world where people can't figure out why a Playboy game might be offensive to some.

You make a fair point but I just say screw those people.

#106 7 years ago
Quoted from Jjsmooth:

Don't think they'd hit that number today.....

For sure but it isn't because of one reason but many.

#112 7 years ago
Quoted from Dooskie:

So this is off-topic, but it's still about Playboy. I saw this joke in a Playboy magazine back in the late 80's. Thought it was funny enough to remember it, and it's clean enough to be able to tell in mixed company. Hope you enjoy it as much as I have over the years:
This guy walks into a bar around 3 in the afternoon. The place is empty, and he slides up to the bar and orders a beer. The bartender serves him the beer, then heads back over to the corner behind the bar to continue reading his newspaper.
The guy starts sipping on his beer, and he reaches into this bag he brought with him, pulls out a miniature grand piano, and sets it up on the bar. Then he reaches into the bag and pulls out this miniature grand piano bench. The bartender glances up over the top of his reading glasses at this, but is more interested in his newspaper than the goings-on, and goes back to reading.
Pretty soon, a little man jumps out of the bag, hops up on the bar, sits down at the piano and starts playing this beautiful music. Well, this is more than the bartender can stand, so he strolls over to the guy at the bar and says, "What the hell? This miniature piano, this little piano player, what's this all about?"
The guy looks at the bartender and says, "I was at the beach this morning and I found this magic genie bottle. In fact, I still have it," and he reached down in the bag and pulls out a genie bottle. "Do you want to try it?"
The bartender is skeptical, but gives it a rub. Poof! Out pops a genie. The genie says, "I grant you one wish." The bartender is no dummy, and says, "I'll take a million bucks." The genie puts his hands together, bows his head to the bartender and says, "Your wish is my command," and is gone in a puff of smoke.
As soon as the genie disappears, the bar is full of ducks. There are ducks everywhere. On the bar, under the tables, flying around the room....there must have been a million of them.
The bartender looks at the guy and says, "Hey, is your genie an idiot, or deaf or something? I said I wanted a million bucks, not a million ducks!"
The guy takes a long sip from his beer, looks up at the bartender and says, "Pal, do you REALLY think I'd wish for a 12-inch pianist?"
Okay, okay, that's the best I've got. Now back to pinball.

I'm committing that one to memory.

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