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Bally Paragon 1979 | Bottom Pop Bumper won't activate

By Zatherdon

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

Hey everyone,

I've been working on my Bally Paragon for a little bit now. It was in secure storage for a few decades, but it's in pretty good shape despite that. I've got everything working except the bottom left pop bumper.

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Here's a picture of the coil

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And heres a picture of the solenoid driver board diagram

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What I've tested:

1. I put the machine in switch test mode and tested the bumper switch, it read it with no issue, and I double checked that it was displaying the correct switch number on screen

2. I put the machine in solenoid test mode, the bumper coil does not fire.

3. I manually fired the coil by grounding the Q2 transistor, the coil does fire reliably.

4. I removed the driver board and tested the transistor with a multimeter, diode reading was between .4 / .6, and was about the same as the rest of the transistors.

5. I did a quick test of the related diode and resistors, I came up with similar results to all other resistors and diodes. However, I wasn't able to find concreate information on how to do these test, so they may have been done incorrectly.

Additional Information:

After I removed the board to check the Q2 transistor, when I put the board back in, the bottom bumper coil was suddenly working. It fired in both sensor and solenoid testing modes, however, when I started a game it stopped working. When I rebooted the machine, it was no longer firing at all.

This is the last major issue this machine has, so please help me anyway you can so I can play a nice game of pinball.

#2 1 year ago

I'm wondering if there's a connector issue.

If you follow those wires to the board and wiggle the connector and what-not, will the coil fire when you press the switch?

If so, you may need to replace a connector (hopefully not the pins).

#3 1 year ago

Is there a disc capacitor still attached to the pop bumper switch? if so, clip one of the legs and see if the switch starts working.

#4 1 year ago

Messing with the connector doesn't seem to change anything.

The capacitor was still attached, I clipped a leg, but unfortunately it didn't fix the bumper.

#5 1 year ago

You'll get better replies on one of the Solid State forums. This is Electro Mechanical.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-efficiently-ask-for-pinball-repair-help-em

#6 1 year ago

Oh so you are right, sorry hadn't realized that Paragon was a really early SS system. Thank you for letting me know.

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