Bally Night Rider SS schematics help

http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=mata+hari&sortby=name&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick#4501

I just picked up a solid state Night Rider pin. It works for the most part. I need to replace some resistors and diodes on the solenoid driver board. I've looked all over the net but can not find a schematic for it. I have found ones for other games but the wiring is a bit different. Does anyone have a pdf of them? Thanks in advance.

#2 8 years ago

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practicalsteve

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Did you look at the ones for Mata Hari?

#3 8 years ago

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KenLayton

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Olympia, WA

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You could purchase a hard copy manual from Pinball Resource. It would have the correct schematics in it.

#4 8 years ago

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mochaman

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It's close. I'm trying to find out what the resistors/diodes handle that i need to replace (burnt/smoking).

#5 8 years ago

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mochaman

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Quoted from KenLayton:
You could purchase a hard copy manual from Pinball Resource. It would have the correct schematics in it.

Figured I'd try asking first.

#6 8 years ago

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wiredoug

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OP
Quoted from mochaman:
I have found ones for other games but the wiring is a bit different.

sorry but thats not actually true. exact same sdb in both .. let me guess... R56 right? its burning because you need to replace the HV transistors.

#7 8 years ago

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wiredoug

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anyway i just uploaded it to ipdb seeing it is missing as you said. it usually takes ages to appear so I will pm you a link to it

#8 8 years ago

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joe2012

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Big Daddy Enterprises has rebuild kits with parts and location lists. Joe

#9 8 years ago

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vid1900

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Quoted from wiredoug:
sorry but thats not actually true. exact same sdb in both .. let me guess... R56 right? its burning because you need to replace the HV transistors.

Rebuild the entire high voltage section all at the same time.

#10 8 years ago

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mochaman

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It's actually R30/cr12 & R32/cr11. I needed to know what those went to so I can check and fix the problem.

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#11 8 years ago

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mochaman

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Quoted from wiredoug:
anyway i just uploaded it to ipdb seeing it is missing as you said. it usually takes ages to appear so I will pm you a link to it

Thank you.

#12 8 years ago

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vid1900

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https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-quick-bally-driver-board-repair-bulletproofing

#13 8 years ago

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Validpowerdetect

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Next time you don't have prints, and the resistors are in an obvious array, just decode the resistor color coding of the neighboring resistors.

#14 8 years ago

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mochaman

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Didn't want to start another thread for a simple question. Just got a rubber kit. It has 4 3" rings. Where do the extra 2 go? I know 2 go on the drop targets.

#15 8 years ago

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vid1900

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You probably double up the rings behind the drop targets.

Bally-Night-Rider-Rubber-Chart.jpg

#16 8 years ago

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wiredoug

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Quoted from vid1900:
You probably double up the rings behind the drop targets.

or the manual is wrong.. and therefore the kit is.. could go either way?

#17 8 years ago

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vid1900

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http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Transistor_Mapping_for_Bally_Games

It's pretty normal to double up behind the drops.

It keeps the ball from escaping under the long rubber.

Latter on, games had thin posts factory installed to keep the balls out.

#18 8 years ago

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Mk1Mod0

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Q-11 and Q-12 run your right sling and bottom pop bumper respectively. Replace all components in that chain and check both of those solenoids for grounds/ shorts, etc.

#19 8 years ago

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mochaman

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