I am doing a mini restoration on a Bally Hokus Pokus, and Iam trying to determine if I have an issue with the scoring reel rest function, when a game is started.

When the game is started, the scoring reels will start cycling and properly change to all zeros. But after the reels all show zeros, the "reset Scores" relay and the scoring motor will continue to cycle for what seems to be an excessive amount of time. I am thinking that once the reels all reach zero, then the "Reset Scores" relay should stop cycling. Am I mistaken?

The number of cycles can very any where from two additional cycles, to ten additional cycles. But the game will always reach play state after the "scores relay" has stopped cycling. It does not seem to get stuck in that cycle, and never end.

The switches on the scoring reels appear to be properly adjusted, and I believe they are in the proper states for all zeros on the reals. But there must be an elusive switch somewhere that I cant seem to find. Or maybe all of this is normal operation.

Can someone please point me tell mne f this is normal, or point me in the direction of a solution?

Thanks
B

Hi Harold,
Thank you for helping me out again.

Each drum has three switches. And I have absolutely verified that all 12 switches are in the open position when the "scores reset" relay continues to cycle. I really think the issue is elsewhere from these 12 switches.

So more troubleshooting info:

So if I manually advance every drum to show a number OTHER than zero. Then manually cycle the "scores reset" relay by hand, I can confirm that the drums will rotate to the 0 position, and once every drum is at the 0 position, the "scores reset" relay can no longer manually be toggled. It is now dead for all intents and purposes. This truly indicates that the 12 switches are now all in the open position. Hope thats an accurate statement.

Also if I power up the machine with all drums in the 0 position. I can then manually toggle the "scores reset" relay, but it will do nothing as expected. BUT if I start a game, the "scores reset" relay will indeed start cycling anywhere from 2-12 cycles, of five clicks each per cycle.

Again when this happens, it can very from 2-12 cycles of the "scores reset" relay, then the game is ready to play. The game also will never stick in a position where the "scores reset" relay continuously cycles out of control.

Does this provide any additional insight into the issue? Is there any chance that this is normal and the scoring motor is simply inducing some kiond of "randomness", prior to the game starting?

Okay made some progress. I checked the highlighted switches,and is now mostly working. However I still have an intermittent condition where sometimes...the scoring drums will NOT all reset to 0's at game start, and then the ball will kick out. Does not do it all of the time. So there must be a single switch that is still slightly gapped wrong, but which one?

I am very confident that the switches on the drums, and the SCORE RESET RELAY are gapped correctly.

So regarding 1C/SCM. Does this indicate the #1 cam wheel on the scoring motor, 3rd switch in the array? Trying to understand that lingo there.

So could I kindly ask what all switches in the scoring motor unit, pertain to drum reset. I think the problem is likely there. Is it possible to determine which cam wheel and switch in the array? Any other relevant switches between the scoring motor unit, and the RESET RELAY (not scores reset relay)?

Thanks

More info.
The RESET RELAY (not scores reset relay) needs to make 2 cycles if any drum shows a score value of 1-4, in order to return to 0.
- Intermittently, the RESET relay only does only ONE cycle, thus the drums dont return to 0 as they should, then the ball kicks out.
- What would cause the RESET RELAY to only cycle once when 1-4 is shown on at least one drum? It should ALWAYS cycle 2 time.

The RESET RELAY (not scores reset relay) needs to make only 1 cycle if any drum shows a score value of 0, or 5-9.
-Typical not an issue as long as drums show values of 0, or 5-9

The switches in the RESET RELAY appear to be gapped correctly. SO I am curious as to which scoring motor switches might need to be looked at closer.

Update:
I found a wire off of the switch for a drum solenoid. Seems to have fixed the issue. Will continue to test and post another update tomorrow.

Yep that detached wire caused the issues. Thanks all for the assistance.