Ohhhhh Really,.............. B & W? Say it isnt so!
Love the look!
Again, simply amazing work. Just when you think it cannot possibly get better, it does. I assumed the coin door had been chromed like many others but better done because there was no waviness to it. Polished makes better sense. That is a LOT of work.
Regarding your thoughts a few pages back about going after defects VS doing more damage than good; In the last couple of years on Pinside I have run through hundreds of threads and probably thousands of comments. The ONE that has stuck with me is "The enemy of good is better." Sage advice and I wish I could credit the author.
Shawn
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:Ohhhhh Really,.............. B & W? Say it isnt so!
Love the look!
B&W is an homage to twilight zone.
Quoted from Mk1Mod0:is "The enemy of good is better." Sage advice and I wish I could credit the author.
One of the smarties on pinside! If it is good stick with it. If it is poor, you have to make it good.
Quoted from SUPERBEE:I just read this entire thread and i must say that i am speechless!! Unbelievably incredible !!!
Thanks! It has been quite the adventure. The project suffered a few delays along the way which pushed against my need for completion but the end of the tunnel is near.
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:Ohhhhh Really,.............. B & W? Say it isnt so!
Love the look!
The backbox needs some blue touchups and clear as a few edges got nicked during sanding and buffing. If it wasn't for having to prep a new course for the semester, I would have had the time. Hopefully this weekend I can power through it and get some photos of a complete cabinet on here.
Plastics are being made this week! The correct plastic was ordered last week but the incorrect item was sent. New plastic arrived and art is finished so all system are a go.
Stay tuned.
Did the final fitting of the backbox light board over the weekend. Used blue tape to hold the displays and went back and forth adjusting them until they were square in the backglass. Once I was satisfied, I lifted up a portion of the tape and put a screw in the exposed hole. This process kept the display from moving positions.
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Looking sweet! I'm in a bit of crunch time on Alien plastics right now, but I'll finish up those cards when I get out from under deadlines.
Quoted from Tbgolfen:Got the game put back together and now have to hunt down all the wiring issues.
Amazing progression. I hope that you have it working 100% soon.
Quoted from Aurich:Looking sweet! I'm in a bit of crunch time on Alien plastics right now, but I'll finish up those cards when I get out from under deadlines.
Let's be honest, the world needs alien way more than I need frontier cards!
Quoted from Tbgolfen:Let's be honest, the world needs alien way more than I need frontier cards!
But this isn't just any Frontier
Quoted from Tbgolfen:Let's be honest, the world needs alien way more than I need frontier cards!
Actually it doesn't. Frontier is a better game.
Quoted from Classic_Stern:Actually it doesn't. Frontier is a better game.
You haven't heard David Thiel's cricket sounds yet.
What could be better than working on a pinball machine all holiday weekend? Well...until bad luck strikes like 43 volts running through your MPU board! So the knocker for frontier is in the cabinet but since I used a strikes and spares it is in the head. I decided to use a 2 Pin Molex connector to make disconnecting the harness much easier. I have been busy repinning all of the connectors to elimate some issues that I was having getting the game to function properly. During a mid test to see how my work was going the female Molex connector make contact with cap 36 on the MPU board and she went up in smoke! And here I thought I was being safe by having it shielded. It was a perfect shot. Probably 1 and a million that would happen 2x.
Good news is Dave at Alltek answers his phone on a holiday and will be sending me out a new one this week. I would say that is amazing customer service.
On the brighter side..
If you have to do any repinning this is my new favorite tool!! It rachets enabling you to hold the connector in the tool while you grab other things. You can even set it down and pick it back up and the connector is ready to go. It makes perfect crimps every time. This tool is awesome and a major time and frustration saver!!
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The plastics are coming along beautifully! Here is a test print of colors. Colors look more like their samples with 1 pass of color. What was discovered though was 3 passes of color hold up better under back lighting but changes the appearance of the color. Browns almost look black and yellow turns almost orange.
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A test print was made on acrylic before using polycarbonate. The choice between colors looking great under normal lighting conditions (game off) and back lighting (game on) was to go with colors looking correct under back lighting. So if they seem off in the pic they are!
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Polycarbonate is the preferred stock for most posters on this forum because they are cutting with a scroll saw. However it doesn't hold up under laser cutting. It is fibrous and burns. Another lesson learned.
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So we ordered some PET-G to use instead of acrylic (breaks to easy) and poly carbonate (it burns, it burns). Plastics should be complete by the end of the week. Might be perfect timing for when the game will be up and running.
I didn't like how the displays sat as much as I was hoping so I spent a little more time today further tweaking to get it just right. Might as well since I am dead in the water waiting for an MPU. LOL!
Here is a pic of the prototype plastics and one original to compare. Slings are new. The wolf plastic order is new (1st pic) and then original (2nd pic). The colors will be adjusted one more time before final production.
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WOW, what a rush! I bet you were freaked when the power struck!
The plastics are really looking nice too!
Quoted from Chosen_S:WOW, what a rush! I bet you were freaked when the power struck!
The plastics are really looking nice too!
Yep! It put a damper on the morning for sure. A couple curse words and a pledge to never work on another machine again. Then I came to my senses and got back to working on it.
Quoted from Pauz21:This is crazy awesome! I wish mine looked like this.
We all do, but I'm jealous of you for even having a Frontier
Thanks for all the compliments! Hopefully I will get my new MPU in the mail today or tomorrow. Looking forward to getting it into the game room and putting some dimples into the playfield and a executing a couple slap saves! It wouldn't be a pinball machine otherwise.
On another note. In case you missed it, looks like PPS has decided to go ahead with plastic production. Here is the link to that thread and how to signup.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ann-interest-in-elektra-andor-frontier-plastic-sets/page/2
http://www.planetarypinball.com/product/frontier-plastic-set/
Quoted from Tbgolfen:Thanks for all the compliments! Hopefully I will get my new MPU in the mail today or tomorrow. Looking forward to getting it into the game room and putting some dimples into the playfield and a executing a couple slap saves! It wouldn't be a pinball machine otherwise.
On another note. In case you missed it, looks like PPS has decided to go ahead with plastic production. Here is the link to that thread and how to signup.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ann-interest-in-elektra-andor-frontier-plastic-sets/page/2
http://www.planetarypinball.com/product/frontier-plastic-set/
are you able to assist them with what they need to get the Frontier plastics made? I assume you have all the scans and ability to confirm fit with the work you have already done?
I am not even a "fan" of this title (not that I have anything against it), but this machine is just absolutely incredible. It certainly opens the mind to the potential every game has hiding under the surface. Tbgolfen, thank you so much for documenting and sharing with us!
Quoted from Whysnow:are you able to assist them with what they need to get the Frontier plastics made? I assume you have all the scans and ability to confirm fit with the work you have already done?
Thanks for the vote of confidence! I do but I am sure they will be fine without me. I do have to say it is way more difficult to get it to "look right" then many might think. Looking forward to comparing them. If they do it properly, they should come out with an overall better product. However, I suspect there will be tradeoffs. Only time will tell us.
Quoted from Tbgolfen:Thanks for all the compliments! Hopefully I will get my new MPU in the mail today or tomorrow. Looking forward to getting it into the game room and putting some dimples into the playfield and a executing a couple slap saves! It wouldn't be a pinball machine otherwise.
On another note. In case you missed it, looks like PPS has decided to go ahead with plastic production. Here is the link to that thread and how to signup.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ann-interest-in-elektra-andor-frontier-plastic-sets/page/2
http://www.planetarypinball.com/product/frontier-plastic-set/
Hey now don't dimple "my machine" too much...well Mega Millions willing tonight. Man that game looks terrific! Yes I am excited about the plastics being ran for all the other Frontiers out there as well.
Quoted from Pinballlew:Hey now don't dimple "my machine" too much...well Mega Millions willing tonight. Man that game looks terrific! Yes I am excited about the plastics being ran for all the other Frontiers out there as well.
For the price your paying, I will redo the clear and take the dimples out.
Followed the thread from the start.Just want to put in my 2 cents and congratulate yourself on a fantastic job.
curious if the center target is supposed to be white faced or red faced? Mine is red, but unsure of what was original.
Quoted from Whysnow:curious if the center target is supposed to be white faced or red faced? Mine is red, but unsure of what was original.
Pretty sure it is suppose to be red.
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:Coming together nicely! Amazing work Tim.
A True museum piece.
Thanks!
The sound card and new harness were successfully completed. Those crickets are loud!
A few things are left to complete the project. I have to find the wiring issue that is dropping some of the display segments. The backglass has a few scratches that need to be fixed. Lastly, the interior of the cabinet took a few scratches from lifting the playfield.
A little surprised no one has mentioned Tbgolfen 's recent interview on the "Launch the Ball" podcast. It was great to hear you chat about your work, Tim. Here's the interview for anyone who missed it:
http://www.launchtheball.com/008-tim-moyers-near-flawless-custom-restoration-of-pinball-machines/
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