(Topic ID: 220954)

Bally Flash Gordon Restoration and Customization

By Tbgolfen

5 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 197 posts
  • 35 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 1 year ago by zahner
  • Topic is favorited by 57 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

Topic Gallery

View topic image gallery

37A0ADFD-521B-4933-B2F6-646BACF68787.jpeg
09A722D4-C9FB-4326-AC57-FC148A0DC477.jpeg
4A9ECF32-B0FC-417C-9B24-E22B9FD88497.jpeg
0F05C038-F3C7-4C41-B403-FB7FD2C5E38D.jpeg
1D7EFAEC-C8A7-441B-A24C-EF569A69A06B.jpeg
F0260032-7422-440F-8AC0-DD210AA3CEF4.jpeg
D7B8ED67-9D75-48D9-B232-68B72378EB8A.jpeg
3C2BB5A5-DD2B-4AEE-91AF-1ACB4E2773F0.jpeg
A8830E5B-BCED-4932-995D-DF303570EAFC.jpeg
746DDC17-63BC-4A13-986A-96CED39D02C0 (resized).jpeg
B5848C34-B884-4798-B261-465897A74F1B (resized).jpeg
873C1755-5CB6-41AD-BD28-A3515C645237 (resized).jpeg
60923151-967E-4D5B-9ADE-12FB52B6FC94 (resized).jpeg
1C282BC7-1460-4D14-8BA9-9E1A8A98D1E6 (resized).jpeg
40E127E4-4E1B-405C-9A86-6ED2F34B61AC (resized).jpeg
FEA50D0B-EB05-4B7B-953F-37AC3396F4CF (resized).jpeg
There are 197 posts in this topic. You are on page 3 of 4.
#101 5 years ago

Lookin great!

#102 5 years ago

How does the gold leaf work? Obviously most of that must get removed next right? Otherwise he wouldn’t have done so much detailing on the crown and stuff.

#103 5 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Looks great. Terry is a very talented artist.
I like the way it is integrated with the original art too.

Thank you sir! I will pass your praises on to Terry.

#104 5 years ago
Quoted from radium:

How does the gold leaf work? Obviously most of that must get removed next right? Otherwise he wouldn’t have done so much detailing on the crown and stuff.

Good question. Terry preferred this time to do a little more than just a rough outline of the crown and jewelry to work out the spacing and concept. So the artwork is buried under the gold and silver leaf. Artwork will be applied over the gold leaf. Because masking on top of gold leaf is really tricky and can cause delamination, I will put 2 coats of clear on next to lock everything down. Then he will come back and do shading and detail work on top of the gold/silver leaf (actually on the clear coat) much like what you saw. Any mistakes or corrections to the artwork can be sanded off without impacting the leaf. Although time and expense are the cost of intermediate clear coats, I believe in the end you arrive at a finished product quicker because of the potential damage (chips, scratches, delamination, etc) that can occur with so many layers of material. Those accidents can often mean redoing an entire section of art to make it look right.

#105 5 years ago

This is looking....
pasted_image (resized).pngpasted_image (resized).png

#106 5 years ago

Amazing vision, stunning work. Alex ross doesnt have those chops. You're at a skill level that is quite rare.

#107 5 years ago
Quoted from Tbgolfen:

Good question. Terry preferred this time to do a little more than just a rough outline of the crown and jewelry to work out the spacing and concept. So the artwork is buried under the gold and silver leaf. Artwork will be applied over the gold leaf. Because masking on top of gold leaf is really tricky and can cause delamination, I will put 2 coats of clear on next to lock everything down. Then he will come back and do shading and detail work on top of the gold/silver leaf (actually on the clear coat) much like what you saw. Any mistakes or corrections to the artwork can be sanded off without impacting the leaf. Although time and expense are the cost of intermediate clear coats, I believe in the end you arrive at a finished product quicker because of the potential damage (chips, scratches, delamination, etc) that can occur with so many layers of material. Those accidents can often mean redoing an entire section of art to make it look right.

Oh I get it. Very interesting, thanks for the explanation!

1 week later
#108 5 years ago

These next few updates might cause concern that this project has lost its way. The cabinet artwork is all in "place" but far from finished. These pictures are of the front cabinet. They are not complete but needed to get the gold done on them.
IMG_4782 (resized).jpgIMG_4782 (resized).jpg
IMG_4783 (resized).jpgIMG_4783 (resized).jpg
IMG_4784 (resized).jpgIMG_4784 (resized).jpg
IMG_4785 (resized).jpgIMG_4785 (resized).jpg
IMG_4786 (resized).jpgIMG_4786 (resized).jpg

#109 5 years ago

The gold leaf is finished on the cabinet. These are the first pictures of the back box that I have shown. The art is original with gold and silver leaf added. These pictures are of the cabinet being prepped for clearing.

IMG_4788 (resized).jpgIMG_4788 (resized).jpg
IMG_4789 (resized).jpgIMG_4789 (resized).jpg
IMG_4790 (resized).jpgIMG_4790 (resized).jpg
IMG_4791 (resized).jpgIMG_4791 (resized).jpg

#110 5 years ago

The next few pictures show the cabinet with a few coats of clear. As a reminder, these coats are simply to lock the art and gold leaf down. I got a little over zealous with the clear and got a sag on the flash side. It will sand out no problem but always frustrating to make mistakes. I will wait a few days and sand them flat. Then back to Terry's house for more art over this next weekend.
IMG_4792 (resized).jpgIMG_4792 (resized).jpg
IMG_4793 (resized).jpgIMG_4793 (resized).jpg
IMG_4794 (resized).jpgIMG_4794 (resized).jpg
IMG_4795 (resized).jpgIMG_4795 (resized).jpg
IMG_4799 2 (resized).jpgIMG_4799 2 (resized).jpg
IMG_4800 (resized).jpgIMG_4800 (resized).jpg

#111 5 years ago

Thank you sharing these progress photos....going well

#112 5 years ago

Clear is so nice, one can almost make out the model of the car in the reflection...
pasted_image (resized).pngpasted_image (resized).png

#113 5 years ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

Clear is so nice, one can almost make out the model of the car in the reflection...
[quoted image]

If this was CSI you'd be able to make out the face of the killer driving the car in the reflection.

1 week later
#114 5 years ago

Clear is a life saver. Terry and I have put some time in this weekend and are very happy we did an intermediate coat.

#115 5 years ago

So I sanded the clear flat with 1000 using the 3m pneumatic sander. Terry then airbrushed black over the gold to create shadows and details.

D3B83EB7-F465-4477-9DF4-B3346B7E3604 (resized).jpegD3B83EB7-F465-4477-9DF4-B3346B7E3604 (resized).jpeg
BDF28FFF-3584-4D99-A951-68C2A38A0E2F (resized).jpegBDF28FFF-3584-4D99-A951-68C2A38A0E2F (resized).jpeg
6E3C3323-6D7C-401C-BA6A-3E1E1E34F548 (resized).jpeg6E3C3323-6D7C-401C-BA6A-3E1E1E34F548 (resized).jpeg

#116 5 years ago

You might be wondering why so much black. The short answer is anything you spray on gold leaf will end up looking flat. So you overspray the gold and then use an eraser to sand off the black revealing the gold leaf. This will creat a “reflection” point. A little hard to capture via a photo. The last picture is from an angle picking up the sun. You can see how reflective the jewels become.

In addition Ming’s detail in his robe was brought back by spraying red over the gold and then erasing it back.

B9E335E6-3A16-4A4D-BF87-4FEA23CF9F64 (resized).jpegB9E335E6-3A16-4A4D-BF87-4FEA23CF9F64 (resized).jpeg
C66E6B0B-837F-476A-B6BA-C89E0015980F (resized).jpegC66E6B0B-837F-476A-B6BA-C89E0015980F (resized).jpeg
61641EEF-5094-433B-BE76-FFAE49B80C8C (resized).jpeg61641EEF-5094-433B-BE76-FFAE49B80C8C (resized).jpeg

#117 5 years ago

Can you post a video of this beauty once done? This is gonna be stunning!

#118 5 years ago
Quoted from Spitfiren8:

Can you post a video of this beauty once done? This is gonna be stunning!

I would say that is a reasonable request.

#119 5 years ago

The next step is striping the graphics. This will clean up the edges of the gold leaf and create a cleaner look. Black on the red background and red on the black background. Here is a progress pic. Lots more to do. E8BA806D-591A-45B8-8D40-9B97FDD33C18 (resized).jpegE8BA806D-591A-45B8-8D40-9B97FDD33C18 (resized).jpeg

#120 5 years ago

Large lines are done in black and red. Now for the circle and small lines.
600FBD49-C02E-4846-8F27-3C7CE475FC41 (resized).jpeg600FBD49-C02E-4846-8F27-3C7CE475FC41 (resized).jpeg
6FAD128A-1DD2-4421-AB62-863B23900E17 (resized).jpeg6FAD128A-1DD2-4421-AB62-863B23900E17 (resized).jpeg

#121 5 years ago

Man that's going to look amazing with all the trim on!

#122 5 years ago
Quoted from jawjaw:

Man that's going to look amazing with all the trim on!

Thanks!

Striping is done on the first side.
4A6CA932-3985-454D-8CA7-62DAA30D294B (resized).jpeg4A6CA932-3985-454D-8CA7-62DAA30D294B (resized).jpeg

#123 5 years ago

This is even too nice to have on a pinball machine... I want it on my wall

#124 5 years ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

This is even too nice to have on a pinball machine... I want it on my wall

It might be a little intrusive but worth it! Thanks!

#125 5 years ago

Touchups to the artwork is complete on the flash side. Forgot to take a picture after the striping was complete. 03CE4666-7E77-400E-A779-BA38B1933C2D (resized).jpeg03CE4666-7E77-400E-A779-BA38B1933C2D (resized).jpeg

#126 5 years ago
Quoted from Tbgolfen:

Touchups to the artwork is complete on the flash side. Forgot to take a picture after the striping was complete. [quoted image]

Wow...
Amazing work. I'd love to see what you would do with a Fathom.

#127 5 years ago
Quoted from zahner:

Wow...
Amazing work. I'd love to see what you would do with a Fathom.

Thanks!

I can’t imagine ever doing one because Mike did the best version I have ever seen. Check it out if you haven’t already.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pmd-–-fathom-restoration-let-the-spending-begin

#128 5 years ago

The air brushing on that Fathom was also crazy awesome. This FG is shaping up well

#129 5 years ago
Quoted from Tbgolfen:

Thanks!
I can’t imagine ever doing one because Mike did the best version I have ever seen. Check it out if you haven’t already.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pmd-–-fathom-restoration-let-the-spending-begin

That's just crazy excellent. As much as I love the cabinet art and what the world normally sees, the blue and chrome under the playfield is just ... well, on a higher plane.

I'm not worthy...

#130 5 years ago

Worked on the coin door today. It is all back together. Door has been chromed, screws have been polished or painted, parts have been washed in ultrasonic bath, and interior parts painted.
DDBF4789-2714-4A44-91FC-AB7179EDD79C (resized).jpegDDBF4789-2714-4A44-91FC-AB7179EDD79C (resized).jpeg
4BA20EFA-0DC9-4C71-B2E0-CE1850F57D68 (resized).jpeg4BA20EFA-0DC9-4C71-B2E0-CE1850F57D68 (resized).jpeg
C7E125A3-841E-4C9D-BDE2-3E7A31DB3CDF (resized).jpegC7E125A3-841E-4C9D-BDE2-3E7A31DB3CDF (resized).jpeg
BFCCFBB9-58A6-440D-9FB9-CC7E9E38E4B1 (resized).jpegBFCCFBB9-58A6-440D-9FB9-CC7E9E38E4B1 (resized).jpeg
795C1122-3860-4801-AF36-E895263BBD9B (resized).jpeg795C1122-3860-4801-AF36-E895263BBD9B (resized).jpeg
BABD4F23-941C-42A6-B07E-EF6824CABCFC (resized).jpegBABD4F23-941C-42A6-B07E-EF6824CABCFC (resized).jpeg

#131 5 years ago

Amazing!

tumblr_peinlwrkBy1v21qz0o1_500.giftumblr_peinlwrkBy1v21qz0o1_500.gif
#132 5 years ago

We are getting close to the finish line! Couple touchups to the front of the cabinet and cleanup the top cabinet and I think we can call it.
CDE7C628-4A00-4A24-A8DD-3AAD3794C45A (resized).jpegCDE7C628-4A00-4A24-A8DD-3AAD3794C45A (resized).jpeg
8AD35348-4F5C-4DCC-832B-69CC7C4103AD (resized).jpeg8AD35348-4F5C-4DCC-832B-69CC7C4103AD (resized).jpeg
0CDF75CD-A666-43D0-A9E8-C4201CE6DB35 (resized).jpeg0CDF75CD-A666-43D0-A9E8-C4201CE6DB35 (resized).jpeg
2DF36A33-A486-4F8D-8FE3-9E3CF87CC86D (resized).jpeg2DF36A33-A486-4F8D-8FE3-9E3CF87CC86D (resized).jpeg

#133 5 years ago

Looks amazing. But aren't you forgetting her ear? Seems missing some darker shades.

#134 5 years ago
Quoted from g94:

Looks amazing. But aren't you forgetting her ear? Seems missing some darker shades.

Good catch! A little overspray grayed it up a bit. It will get fixed. Thanks.

1 week later
#135 5 years ago

Final prep for clearing. Touchup of the red and black colors. 5C7E677D-62D4-4AC0-9565-DBB551D80B07 (resized).jpeg5C7E677D-62D4-4AC0-9565-DBB551D80B07 (resized).jpeg
3B1C04E1-688B-4BFF-8FD8-C2A93B1A9CD7 (resized).jpeg3B1C04E1-688B-4BFF-8FD8-C2A93B1A9CD7 (resized).jpeg6ED595D4-0168-42ED-84D3-E03DE2D11DF8 (resized).jpeg6ED595D4-0168-42ED-84D3-E03DE2D11DF8 (resized).jpeg

#136 5 years ago

Ready for clear.
010788D7-F826-4105-9D0D-647BCBE8CE5A (resized).jpeg010788D7-F826-4105-9D0D-647BCBE8CE5A (resized).jpeg
7C553118-111B-486B-A426-3F362F19183C (resized).jpeg7C553118-111B-486B-A426-3F362F19183C (resized).jpeg
808B5F00-4D57-4E58-8722-E12B791B9F02 (resized).jpeg808B5F00-4D57-4E58-8722-E12B791B9F02 (resized).jpeg
C41A020A-8E9C-4FFE-B41F-6DA63225CCA8 (resized).jpegC41A020A-8E9C-4FFE-B41F-6DA63225CCA8 (resized).jpeg

#137 5 years ago

First coat of clear is done.
629F1449-8A35-4CA1-B20E-4FF83AF6D893 (resized).jpeg629F1449-8A35-4CA1-B20E-4FF83AF6D893 (resized).jpeg1EB5CA95-8537-4F0F-A605-3F6A835D029E (resized).jpeg1EB5CA95-8537-4F0F-A605-3F6A835D029E (resized).jpeg

#138 5 years ago

Second coat finished.
DA072DAF-BDAB-403A-83E5-135AC6C48F65 (resized).jpegDA072DAF-BDAB-403A-83E5-135AC6C48F65 (resized).jpegD8031C94-63BF-4290-811E-1E906501982F (resized).jpegD8031C94-63BF-4290-811E-1E906501982F (resized).jpeg88B65729-3140-48FC-A356-DD9492A404C4 (resized).jpeg88B65729-3140-48FC-A356-DD9492A404C4 (resized).jpeg1C68F6BF-6941-4A30-87C6-D88E11952B5A (resized).jpeg1C68F6BF-6941-4A30-87C6-D88E11952B5A (resized).jpeg0268A470-AE3E-4FCF-8101-A810DBE6B2AB (resized).jpeg0268A470-AE3E-4FCF-8101-A810DBE6B2AB (resized).jpeg0DDF4F88-525C-409D-AAA4-7152467CAF75 (resized).jpeg0DDF4F88-525C-409D-AAA4-7152467CAF75 (resized).jpeg

#139 5 years ago

astounding!

#141 5 years ago

Clear really makes it pop!

#142 5 years ago

Thanks everyone! Sanding and polishing are complete. All imperfections at this point are considered my hidden intentions.

0A2C828A-BD70-485B-A145-27803BFE4CA9 (resized).jpeg0A2C828A-BD70-485B-A145-27803BFE4CA9 (resized).jpegC09E10B5-6859-4AD4-8772-E1C3489BF305 (resized).jpegC09E10B5-6859-4AD4-8772-E1C3489BF305 (resized).jpegE873609B-8526-4061-A481-A68B9561882F (resized).jpegE873609B-8526-4061-A481-A68B9561882F (resized).jpegEE9AFD61-0BE0-464B-A9E0-B02B3BF9DEDE (resized).jpegEE9AFD61-0BE0-464B-A9E0-B02B3BF9DEDE (resized).jpeg
#143 5 years ago

Wow!

#144 5 years ago

I have a few decisions to make. I am undecided about the rails and lock down bar. They are currently chromed but I have some extras around. The chrome seems to compete with the artwork. My options are to 1) powdercoat (red or black). Not sure how close color matching would be. 2) I thought about painting them red and clearing them (Not as durable but should hold up in a home environment and fixable). With both options 1 and 2 I would also consider having the artwork continue through the rails. Integrating the artwork would be more seamless with painting the rails. 3) chrome. 4) raw steel.

Open to opinions.
BCA2BDD4-FE24-45AE-9F44-A51061EE0A0F (resized).jpegBCA2BDD4-FE24-45AE-9F44-A51061EE0A0F (resized).jpeg
EC7A8374-0623-4739-A414-76408C0F91D5 (resized).jpegEC7A8374-0623-4739-A414-76408C0F91D5 (resized).jpeg
79D0179A-A956-4B63-B072-23372622758F (resized).jpeg79D0179A-A956-4B63-B072-23372622758F (resized).jpeg
2F0002E2-362F-431D-BB41-8E10C7293679 (resized).jpeg2F0002E2-362F-431D-BB41-8E10C7293679 (resized).jpeg

#145 5 years ago

The chrome vs the metallics is a bit weird, I think it's detracting from Terry's work.

Red feels a little off to me, rails are supposed to contrast. I'd either go raw steel and keep closer to the leaf work, or go black personally.

tim-gordan-rails (resized).jpgtim-gordan-rails (resized).jpg

#146 5 years ago

I like the Black, and I'd also to a Black border around the front of the head. May do that on the FG I'm working on.

The thing that really sticks out to me is the contrast between the high gorgeous detail of the cabinet art work to the near stock looking backbox artwork.....I'd detail the backbox art as well to match the cabinet, yet keep the original artwork theme.

#147 5 years ago

I think black would look the best.

#148 5 years ago

i like the red! possibly with black screw heads

#149 5 years ago

Yeah the red tends to blend in and disappear nicely. Also, it matches the frame of the head.

Just for s&g, how would gold look?

Promoted items from Pinside Marketplace and Pinside Shops!
From: $ 130.00
Boards
Troxel Repair
 
Wanted
Machine - Wanted
Berkeley Springs, WV
$ 15.00
Hardware
Volcano Pinball
 
From: £ 110.00
$ 99.00
$ 20.00
Playfield - Plastics
UpKick Pinball
 
$ 18.95
Eproms
Pinballrom
 
From: £ 135.00
Electronics
Retro Electro Designs
 
5,000 (OBO)
Machine - For Sale
Houston, TX
$ 100.00
Cabinet - Other
Volcano Pinball
 
$ 22.95
Eproms
Pinballrom
 
$ 20.00
Hardware
Volcano Pinball
 
$ 179.00
3,200 (OBO)
Machine - For Sale
Elkhart, IN
From: £ 135.00
Electronics
Retro Electro Designs
 
$ 7.00
Playfield - Decals
Pinball Haus
 
$ 29.00
Boards
RoyGBev Pinball
 
$ 5.00
Hardware
Volcano Pinball
 
$ 69.00
Gameroom - Decorations
Pinball Pimp
 
$ 10.00
Playfield - Protection
UpKick Pinball
 
$ 29.00
Boards
RoyGBev Pinball
 
Hey modders!
Your shop name here
There are 197 posts in this topic. You are on page 3 of 4.

Reply

Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

Donate to Pinside

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!


This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bally-flash-gordon-restoration-and-customization/page/3?hl=aukraut and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.