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Stern Driver board Help

By Troyster42

4 years ago


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#1 4 years ago

Hi all, looking for some help with this solinoid board. It came out of a Bally Ground Shaker but I am pretty sure its not orginal. It does have STERN on it and some of whats in the manual isn't matching.What ver is this? From what I read if it has the 33k 2W R at R51 then its a J well then other things dont match. In the manual it has the HV fuse and this board doesn't have any. I pulled the R35 and on the J board R54 should be 8.2k 1/4W and this is a 1 W resistor. I pulled R35 and R 54 and both read 107K they look orginal and the pics are below. R35 should be 100K 1W and R 54 should be 8.2k 1/4W from what I am reading. For all of the boards I am looking at R 54 should be 8.2k 1/4 W .There is also a cap. connected to R52 that is just soldered to its leg. Any help to find out what this board is and the componets on it is greatly appreaicaled . I guess this board is somewhat of an odd ball something else is happening. Any other pics on info needed to help please let me know

Thanks in advance
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#4 4 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

Early Bally and Stern solenoid driver boards (SDB) are interchangeable. As in your case is isn't so uncommon to find Stern SDBs in Bally machines and vice versa when it was all that operators had on hand to swap in.
There are minor differences in Stern board revisions. As you've noticed your board doesn't have the HV fuse since Stern mounted it on the back of the display/lamp door panel.
Make sure the F2 fuse on the rectifier board is 0.75A fast blow, and not a slow blow.
Use the below schematic for the High Voltage section of your Stern board.
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Thanks so much! This looks right I couldn't figure out what board I had with all of the different revisions but this schematic looks correct.

Thanks again!

#7 4 years ago

Heres a picture of the model and rev. number. This was were the problem began as there is no rev. on it. I started to go with that R 51 was a 2w that it should be rev j, but I saw the r73-R75 listed that they shold be replaces also and couldn't find them. The first one above looks correct, I'll go over it more tonight. Do you know what Rev this board is?

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#8 4 years ago

Ok I found out the Rev. On this. It was there all the time, just on the back of the board.

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#11 4 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

Hmm, this muddies the water a little.
The following pictures come from ebay.
Board #1 same as yours. No front of board revision. Back of board has PCB revision "D"
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Board #2 same as yours. No front of board revision. Back of board has PCB revision that's hard to tell
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Board #3 next version board, front has a sticker with revision "J". Back of board has PCB revision "F"
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Here's another pic of the left of the board it has the same 44-79 on it as the first board you posted. I'm not sure if it shows well but on the second to the left white tab it has Dec.27 1979 on it. This had been a unique adventure so far. Its always good to learn and help IMOP.

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#14 4 years ago
Quoted from G-P-E:

I am rather surprised to see that Stern put a current limiting resistor in that circuit.
Q24 performs a shutdown if the output voltage goes too low. Also surprised to see it is a 2N3904.
A 2N3904 has a VCEO of 40V. WTF? Seems the current limiting transistor needs a voltage limiter. They should have used a 2N5551 there.
I need to do the math on this one and see what the R51 voltage drop is but still think using such a small voltage rated part in that circuit just isn't a good idea. Time to do an analysis on that one.

Ed?

Your knowledge well exceeds mine here. This board is out of the machine and slowly being worked on, anything I can do let me know.

#15 4 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

PCB date code 44th week of 1979.
For some weird reason they printed that bottom left PCB date code upside down on the other two boards..

I thought it might have been the 44th week, but you never know. I do have another question. With this board there is no H fuse, I thought you said that Stern but the fuse on the back of a display board? Do you mean the individual displays? I want to add one before this goes back in the machine

#22 4 years ago

Wow I didn't see all of these posts until now. I still need to look at the board and feel better putting a fuse in the HV circuit, at least it can't hurt anything. I want to thank everyone also for the help!

#24 4 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

BTW, time to change the tile of this thread to "Stern Driver board Help"
BTW2, looking at your solenoid driver board picture in post #8, you need to add a touch more solder to pin 9 of the J2 pin header.

Changed the title of the thread, the main reason it was Bally was the machine.

I did look at the pic, yeah I need to hit that pin again. A couple of years ago I would never think I would be doing what I am now and I hope to continue to grow. My soldering is better than some and less than most but moving forward, and thanks for pointing that out too.

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