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Bally, 1989
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Hi Guys - just bought an Atlantis pin and was real pleased to find this forum! Machine I bought was in pretty poor shape - dirty as all hell. I am an electrical engineer, and I cleaned it all up (major job - took 4 days) and it seems all the mechanicals are working OK. The problem is with the lights, of which there are several. Hopefully one of you experienced folks can share a few pointers? Two questions:
1. How does one access the bulbs under the playfield inserts? The sockets are soldered in, and the inserts are under the mylar so they don't pop out. So I am baffled as to how one pulls the bulbs - I have a few dead ones.
2. I have three pairs of lamps which act as if they are tied together - when I run the individual lamp test, they blink together when one is selected, and when the next in line is selected they are both off. Example: #68 and #69, both DT related. Can't be a short in the wiring, as then they would both go on when either is selected. Seems the two different PIO chips that drive these lamps, which both use output on pin 4 to drive these two lamps, are both being selected. But the other lamps on these PIO chips behave properly, so I am stumped. Any suggestions as to where to look?
Thanks! Looking forward to working with you guys!
Quoted from Nisan:1. How does one access the bulbs under the playfield inserts? The sockets are soldered in, and the inserts are under the mylar so they don't pop out. So I am baffled as to how one pulls the bulbs - I have a few dead ones.
1st welcome to the club... Do you lift the playfield up so you can access underneath??? It's hinged...
Dan
Quoted from Tsskinne:So balls keep falling out of sub when I hit ramp hard, any tips?
Make sure the gate is in there and the spring metal is there... see this post:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bally-atlantis-ownerss-club-fans-welcome/page/2#post-1621549
Quoted from Timerider:Make sure the gate is in there and the spring metal is there... see this post:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bally-atlantis-ownerss-club-fans-welcome/page/2#post-1621549
Thank you. I just tried the link and that didn't bring it up, nor did search for the part number. I have a wire gate there but no spring metal it seems.
Sorry I sounded like a newbie, but yes I have extensively worked on the pin - top and bottom of the play field, and everywhere else. As I mentioned, the lamp socket below the insert is soldered to the ground wire stapled to the underside of the pf, and the socket is rigid up against the underside of the insert. The manual has no info on how to replace the bulb. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Quoted from Nisan:Sorry I sounded like a newbie, but yes I have extensively worked on the pin - top and bottom of the play field, and everywhere else. As I mentioned, the lamp socket below the insert is soldered to the ground wire stapled to the underside of the pf, and the socket is rigid up against the underside of the insert. The manual has no info on how to replace the bulb. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Which insert... I'll look at mine for you and take a photo... I replaced every bulb with a LED and I remember a few being a pain in ass but no major issues...
Danczaz, replacing the insert bulbs is a pain on this game for sure. The only way I could replace them is to bend back the sockets. Sometimes things are in the way, and it's a real challenge to twist and contort your fingers, or wrap a hemostat or curved pliers with tape and get them under there. It's even worse if you are putting LEDs in, because then you need to put a lot of pressure on the socket and you'll need two hands so that one can support the back of the socket. I have no easy answer there.
As far as the multiple lamps lighting up together, that's a quirck of the design that allows two lamps to be controlled by one SCR. Check pages 4-4 to 4-8 of the manual that describes how the bi-phase lamp circuit operates. It looks like you may have a short of one of the diodes to a lamp socket or the cold side of the lamps to ground. That will cause both lamps to light. If one lamp is slightly brighter than another that is another clue.
biphase.jpgQuoted from danczaz:Which insert... I'll look at mine for you and take a photo... I replaced every bulb with a LED and I remember a few being a pain in ass but no major issues...
Thanks!
Quoted from wayout440:. It looks like you may have a short of one of the diodes to a lamp socket or the cold side of the lamps to ground. That will cause both lamps to light. If one lamp is slightly brighter than another that is another clue.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will look at the schematics again and keep you posted.
Thanks again to you both! I'll post pictures next - you wouldn't believe that the guy who maintained this system before I got it figured he could cure everything with wood screws and nails...
Quoted from Tsskinne:Ok so I'm a moron, spring steel there. Adjusted it and playing great now with the exception of that White GI. Hopefully get that relay board fixed in a few days.
Glad you got the sub launching correctly... sorry the link was busted (I didn't re-check it). I'm guessing they must have sold out.
Quoted from Tsskinne:Has anyone installed Williams flipper bats? Pros vs cons?
I have white Williams flipper bats in mine. I didn't install them though, it was that way when I bought it. The yellow grooved bats are supposedly the correct ones, and Neo says that they are slightly longer. The game does play fine with the Williams and I have no problems.
Longueuil, QC
Mine have a standart williams, shorter than ribbed but it work fine because this game is easy.d&d need ribbed flipper...
Yeah I installed them. Held them side by side and it was shorter but didn't have any Bally ones on hand and wanted to play.
if the sub is missing it's not a big deal because it looks like shit anyway. I just got a model in the mail that i'm planning on using in my machine. I will post pictures soon of it. Size is a good size. very excited about this project. Pics coming soon.
Quoted from danczaz:Someone took her at $700... Wonder if it was a pinsider... We'll have to wait and see!
I planned on putting in an aftermarket sub so it didn't bother me. I just didn't want people who didn't notice bidding me up. I'm in da club now baby!
Quoted from CaptainNeo:if the sub is missing it's not a big deal because it looks like shit anyway. I just got a model in the mail that i'm planning on using in my machine. I will post pictures soon of it. Size is a good size. very excited about this project. Pics coming soon.
Please share! I'm not really sure where to start with a model.
Can someone confirm what is the correct drop target for bally Atlantis?
I think this is it but not sure?
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-3944-BL
I would prefer to order from marco since I also need the new decal set and they seem to be the only ones with it
My sub is actually really nice on mine. Is it something that could be easily scanned and 3d printed?
Quoted from Whysnow:Can someone confirm what is the correct drop target for bally Atlantis?
I think this is it but not sure?
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-3944-BL
I would prefer to order from marco since I also need the new decal set and they seem to be the only ones with it
That's the target. Decals have the seahorse on them.
Model i'm using is a new Nautilus model that came out with a giant squid stand. But the sub and stand are separate. Sub has clear windows in it as well which will be nice to light up.
Schagen
it is really thin vacuum formed plastic, but it could be 3d printed as there is a lot of play room inside that is just empty air.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:That's the target. Decals have the seahorse on them.
Model i'm using is a new Nautilus model that came out with a giant squid stand. But the sub and stand are separate. Sub has clear windows in it as well which will be nice to light up.
can we get a link to the see/purchase please
My original sub was pretty beat. Brittle with age, it would pop off in the middle of games or cause ball hang ups. The sub I replaced it with is 100% home made. I designed it based around a frame of 2 plastic drink bottles glued end to end. This sub is much stronger, while still being flexible to fit around the frame properly. It never falls off or hangs up the balls. To me the classic sub shape looks more like a submarine the the triangular shaped original.
156149.jpgQuoted from herbertbsharp:I planned on putting in an aftermarket sub so it didn't bother me. I just didn't want people who didn't notice bidding me up. I'm in da club now baby!
welcome to the club!!!
I had a feeling someone might jump at $700!!! Well worth it in my opinion!!!
Quoted from Whysnow:Can someone confirm what is the correct drop target for bally Atlantis?
I think this is it but not sure?
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-3944-BL
I would prefer to order from marco since I also need the new decal set and they seem to be the only ones with it
Hilton did you get an Atlantis??? Can I take you off the list if I ever sell it? (Not going anywhere anytime soon)
Don't take me off this list just yet... I picked one up but it is going to take some work to bring it back to life. (Yet another project I have taken on with 1 too many projects already). With a little luck and some time I will bring it back to life.
Sounds good... Your still 1/1 on list but no plans to get rid of her... If you get a chance throw some photos up so we can see what you are working with...
Quoted from Whysnow:can we get a link to the see/purchase please
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