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Bally/Stern AS-2518 Club !

By mof

10 years ago


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#9 10 years ago

I have two Bally 2518 systems. Bally Star Trek and Star Trek: The Mirror Universe.

I've got to go back to the drawing board on my Lamp board replacements and the AS2518 soundcard / FPGA design. Plan to do that after TPF later this week.

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#47 10 years ago

What pinkid said. Normal GI is fine.
Switch Illumination will flicker due to leds not providing enough hold current to keep scrs on.

#48 10 years ago
Quoted from Zitt:

What pinkid said. Normal GI is fine.
Switch Illumination will flicker due to leds not providing enough hold current to keep scrs on.

I'm working on a solution for that; but waiting on PCBs from OSHPark to begin test/debug.

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7 years later
#2711 2 years ago

Wanted to call your attention to some limited stock I have of alternative replacement for the VJ248 bridge rectifier used in the power / transformer module in these games.

These are not spec for spec compatible to the original VJ248 rectifiers; but are game compatible because they are 100V vs 200V. Neither are available as new parts; however, I was able to procure a small number of the VJ148s which are pin-to-pin and physically compatible to the original rectifier. The lower working voltage should not be a problem for any AS-2518-18 power supplies at the highest voltage being 49VAC (BR3) for the Solenoid Voltage.

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#2723 2 years ago
Quoted from Nokoro:

Every single bulb in my game appears to be out

There may have been a power surge that blew every bulb.
It does happen; but admittedly more than a little weird.

1 month later
#2813 2 years ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

EEEEEEEE WHOMMMMMMM EEEEEEEEE WHOMMMMMMM

Congrats; welcome to the bally club.
Seriously; that is normal. No one has really admitted to finding the cause of the Soundcard humm.
I suspect a ground loop; but haven't done much to find a solution.

1 month later
#2856 2 years ago
Quoted from RatShack:

Does anyone make shatterproof ball guide plastics for Star Trek? Or even sell just the ball guide plastics by themselves?

Are you talking about the ball guides with the metal bells?
If so; the bells are unobtanium - therefore; It's unlikely anyone sells just the plastic due to lack of the bells.

#2861 2 years ago

as I stated; they are un-obtainium.
No one makes them anymore. I also bet the tool used to attached them to the plastic is long-since lost to time.

#2863 2 years ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

but I know several of us in the hobby work with metals, what’s the story?

I think it's one of those items of little interest.
How many would a person sell? I mean my Bally Star trek probably has like a dozen and a half if I wanted to replace them all. Granted most early solid state ballys probably used them but how many would you really sell in a given year.

I suspect these were die punched or something; again - the actual manufacturing may be lost to time.
I have considered trying to repro them; but honestly, just not sure how they were made - what tool was used to install them; and how well they'd actually sell long term.

#2870 2 years ago

I used clear acrylic tubing on ST:MU:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/star-trek-mirror-universe-pinball/page/8#post-1510108
If I could figure out how to cut these "square" - would anyone be interested in clear spacers?

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#2949 2 years ago

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#2971 2 years ago
Quoted from barakandl:

The class Z or whatever 50v cheap ceramic caps don't last long. Mata Hari kept eating them in a like a month or less on a pop bumper.

?!? Never had a Ceramic cap fail in a pinball machine. Ever. But then again; I'm not actively looking for a failure.
What exactly is the failing mechanism on a pop bumper cap?
Could it be physically mechanical stress? or electrical stress?
I'm betting they are failing due to mechanical stress due to the proximity to to the pop bumper itself.

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#3107 1 year ago
Quoted from jibmums:

. I only see the red push button switch in the upper right corner,

That's only used to set values aka settings in nvram.

I use it rarely to set audit values for bonus games.

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#3237 1 year ago

I don't know anything about Centaur. I didn't even realize it was a 2518 board set.

That said; you are going to have to provide a real part number for the TRIAC as I don't have the schematics nor do I want to try to find them in the mess of copyright takedown notices and what not.

TRIACs are just to parallels SCRs in opposite configurations so they can conduct in both directions. It shouldn't be hard to find an alternate but may be hard to find a drop-in physical replacement.

#3244 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinash:

would like to put in yellow (maybe even purple). Besides logos, can I use batts from a more modern era

I used modern aluminum flipper bats on star trek the mirror universe... But I also used new flipper mechs under the pf.
Having modern bats seems to work ok .

#3257 1 year ago

The buzz is common. I've never had any real luck removing it.
It's related to the lamp matrix. Unsure if it's a ground loop or inductive feedback via the transformer.

#3260 1 year ago

I've been meaning to make an attempt and "fixing" the buzz on my machine... but I just keep getting side tracked on other projects.
If someone has suggestions; by all means try them.
I just found that mine seems to be the result of many issues. Ground loops, lamp matrix feedback, and who knows what else.

#3270 1 year ago

It helps if you post a screen shot of the schematics with the cap in question.
If it's a filter cap; 1500/2200 won't matter.
If it's a RC timing cap; it will very much matter.

I suspect it's a former; but won't know without schematics.

#3273 1 year ago

Yeah; C25 can be any value you want above 470uf.
It's a "bulk cap" for the 5V rail.

#3284 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinash:

Can MPU capacitors C37 - C40 be replaced with ceramic disc style caps? S

yeah; I'd think so. consult the schematics for correct values. I'd assume it's 390pico F @ 50V to meet switch matrix setup/hold times.
By the time these entered production; ceramic caps were more common in axial leads - I'm guessing because the same place machines could be used for the resistors and the caps in tape form.

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#3296 1 year ago

Disconnect the switch for a while, does the problem remain?
I suspect you have a problem on the switch matrix or cpu board

#3302 1 year ago
Quoted from Phesson:

This is what I was thinking. It has a weebly mpu board. Do they still service these?

Webbly is still doing business I forget whom it is here on Pinside.
I don't think they offer "service" . IE you may not be able to send them a questionable board and expect them to debug.
Regardless; ask them via their website. It's right there on the board via silkscreen.

Nevermind; barakandl responded.

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#3313 1 year ago

Is the hardtop interfering mechically with the switch assembly?

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#3333 1 year ago

ive repaired boards with much worse corrosion... which are still in use on both my star treks.

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#3358 1 year ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

So instead of just tapping from the pcb if they wanted to do offboard... they put pigtails in the cable harness?? Guess this is the guy who didn't have a soldering gun...

I see two red/white wires going off to "off board" FWbridge rectifiers... but no additional wires going to the other pins of the rectifiers.
I see "loops" on the other two pins; but do not see any connections.

In my opinion; they are unconnected so the "electrons are gonna fall out"

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#3365 1 year ago
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

Saving a game gives me a real sense of pride.

Problem is; I usually spend WAY TOO MUCH restoring them to ever hope getting the money back out.

#3368 1 year ago

Ah, yes... The tool justification. Played that card often myself.

#3370 1 year ago

I'd replace the outhole driver transistor and the predriver.

#3374 1 year ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

I have replaced the driver transistor for the outhole what is the pre-driver?

Look at the schematics. usually there is a TO-92 transistor connected to the base of the power transistor. The "pre-driver" provides additional current to drive the power transistor into deep saturation.
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Looks like Bally replaced the predriver with U3 which is a bunch transistors in a plastic DIP plastic.
I'd replace U3 and CR13. I'd test R22 and the other resistor to make sure it's in spec.

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#3459 1 year ago

I only saw this very necro post:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/early-bally-ss-transformer-cages

Don't think anyone has offered replacements for sale.

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#3526 1 year ago
Quoted from Robotworkshop:

Board works and plays but the sounds are off or wrong. Other than that it seems to play ok. I

This screams that the board is from a different game with a different "prom".

#3530 1 year ago
Quoted from Robotworkshop:

correct game ROM chips

There is a PROM on the sound board. Most don't realize it has one.

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