Finally joined the club in a unique way......

I am doing a scratch build doing a custom pinball with a new full set of alltek boards that just arrived and pinscore displays. I have a long way to go and might need a little help along the way. The game will be using most of the features and rule set of Skateball.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tube-time-custom-surfing-pin

where can get new leads that go between the boardset and the 5 displays from ?

any help would be much appreciated.

thanks heaps for that, will contact him

great idea, will remember that one

you could simply add a WAV Trigger board, handles WAV sound tracks, sounds etc and allows for 16 trigger switches, eg ball goes in the shooter lane (add a switch if one not there) and starts a song, ball drains and ends the song, ball 2 goes into the shooter lane and next some or randomised song then starts playing.

You can then add other switches for other sounds in the game and those sounds can easily be set to play and end other sounds or they can overlap - very cool little board.

does anyone have a photo of the back of a Skateball Backglass?

Question for the AS-2518 enthusiasts here, as I have not played many of these games due to not many being sited / available to play, what games of the Stern Category and then the Bally Category have the best rules? If possible don't worry about the art and layout as I am more focusing on the games features (drops etc) and mainly RULES.

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Bally -

Thanks guys, and interesting, will have to check them out...

I honestly thought fathom may have got a mention, but maybe the art is one of the bonuses there as I did ask based on rules

yep, now available in 10 different colours so you can customise your game a little

just uploaded a new product to Shapeways - Roll Over Button now EXTENDED 1mm more to accommodate the Outer Edge Hardtop playfield overlays. They still will seat the same into the playfield and connect the same under the playfield but have 1mm extension in the head to accomodate the Hardtop thickness. Available as singles or in sets of 5 in multiple colours.

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?q=swinksbutton&sort=newest

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just finished the left and right bracket for bally drop targets P-7939-1 in regular and reinforced in 2 different options.

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?q=swinksdrops&sort=newest

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as per a few posts above the drop target brackets are printed in metal and very strong, my GB target brackets take a pounding. The original metal brackets crack and break so a plastic one will not hold. Here is the range of reproduction parts

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?q=swinksreproduction&sort=newest

the new kicker guides can be found here, single or twin pack (which you need to trim back but saves a few dollars)

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?type=product&q=swinksc-972-3parts

I know these are used on a Fathom, what other games are they on

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does anyone have early Bally Back Box dimensions (of a Kiss, Skateball or Fathom era game) and / or full cabinet dimensions if possible

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ok thanks - good to know

can anyone help with some dimensions of a Fathom sized backbox

Thankyou Mudflaps I will draw up and post here and see if I need anything else to confirm

here is a sketch, can you or anyone please check and confirm that I interpreted your measurements correctly please - imperial in [ ]

I also guessed a few dimensions so if you can check and confirm what D, E, F, G are that would be awesome.

A - 27 5/8" (Height)
B - 30 1/4" (Width)
C - 6 3/4" (Rear of Trim to Back Edge)
D - ? (height of the outer trim - I guessed 1")
E - ? (step back of outer trim to the backbox ply - I guessed 1 3/4")
F - ? (start of key recess - I guessed 1 1/4")
G - ? (total width of key recess - I guessed a 90 cut with sides measuring 2")
H - 10 1/8" (width at the top)
J - 9" (width at the bottom)

and if you know the thickness of the back panel that would be great as well, thanks.

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I hunted some images down and found Drano s build from 5 years ago
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any addition info like what games these were used on and other details would be much appreciated as then it can also become a resource for others

a Pinsider asked me to recreate the Molex 03-06-2242 Female side so designed it up and tested it and looks and works well - not the cheapest but better than obsolete.

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use pinball search to find parts

https://www.pinballsearch.com/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=switch%20fish%20paper

even better, nice find

have a number of repro parts available including tombstone drops etc
https://swinks.com.au/reproduction-parts-1

or directly at Shapeways in the US to save on postage I have a few in stock cheaper but the freight would kill it unless you bundled some drops with them etc
https://www.shapeways.com/product/WV6TYWTKB/80-s-stern-ss-pinball-coin-plate-chute?optionId=43403498&li=marketplace

yeah I don't make the windows, sorry

just a word of warning, with some other parts that Marco are selling the parts don't always match the pictures - sometimes different materials & colours and though they are not mentioning it are 3d printed as well.

3d printed SLS is ideally what you want as will be solid nylon particles - professional printed parts

3d printed FDM is filament printing and will often be partially hollow and subject to heat - home printed parts

FDM printing has improved alot recently but am cautious with heat tolerances especially if you are using bulbs (not leds) close to those parts

I am not suggesting Marco are doing this intentionally but for a few years they were buying my parts from Shapeways and then they started getting their own parts made - I am positive their parts are Shapeways made parts as well, which I respect.

BUT what Shapeways recently did (in the last 6 months) is to every listed product in the library of parts (of all the designers) is that they automatically opened up the option of BASIC NYLON. This option was purely created to keep there machines running at all times as opposed to sitting idle. But after diving into some of their documentation this option does not include post processing (polishing / tumbling) resulting in a rougher part. In addition they (Shapeways) gets to choose if it is grey or white. White is SLS (laser bound nylon particles) and Grey is MJF (glue bound nylon particles).

I recently saw someone ordered a Bally ball launch arm which Marco advertised as white but customer got a grey one and then it snapped. The issue is Grey / MJF which is sharper in detail BUT is not great for ball impact parts as the nylon particles are bound by glue and not a laser so fail suddenly.

I personally had to go through my parts catalogue and remove this "BASIC NYLON" option as while the better price is inviting for customers the quality is rough and not all parts can be grey / MJF as they will fail which I need to ensure does not happen and some people hope to get a white part and not grey.

Hope the info helps some people.