Bally 6803 games Tech Charts help wanted...


By Inkochnito

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#1 4 months ago

I'm working on Tech Charts for the Bally 6803 games.
The manuals files have a lot of info, but some is missing completely.
Like which coils are used in various locations.
Some manual / schematics are unreadable, but these I've got send to me in paper form.

Now for the help part...
I can use your help with the used coils on the various games.
I haven't looked at all the schematics jet, but I'm working my way up from Eight Ball Champ to Atlantis.

Right now I'm working on Motordome.
Can anyone help me fill in the blanks?

Peter
http://www.inkochnito.nl

Coil info needed for these games:

* Eight Ball Champ, done.
* Beat the Clock, done.
* Lady Luck, done.
* Motordome, done.
* Black Belt, done.
* Special Force, done.
* Strange Science, done.
* City Slicker, done.
* Hardbody, done.
* Party Animal, done.
* Heavy Metal Meltdown, done.
* Dungeons & Dragons, done.
* Escape from the Lost World, done.
* Blackwater 100, done.
* Truck Stop, done.
* Atlantis, done.

#2 4 months ago

I have a D&D. What do you need me to do exactly?

#3 4 months ago
Quoted from Clnilsen:

I have a D&D. What do you need me to do exactly?

I need to know which coils are used.
I've made a quick list for you to work with.
Just fill in the blanks....

Bally_Dungeons_and_Dragons_Solenoids.pdf

#4 4 months ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

I'm working on Tech Charts for the Bally 6803 games.
The manuals files have a lot of info, but some is missing completely.
Like which coils are used in various locations.
Some manual / schematics are unreadable, but these I've got send to me in paper form.
Now for the help part...
I can use your help with the used coils on the various games.
I haven't looked at all the schematics jet, but I'm working my way up from Eight Ball Champ to Atlantis.
Right now I'm working on Motordome.
Can anyone help me fill in the blanks?
Peter
http://www.inkochnito.nl

I have Special Force.... Need me to help out?

#5 4 months ago
Quoted from metalkatt:

I have Special Force.... Need me to help out?

Yes, please do.
I've made a file for you to work with.
Just need the type of used coils.
Maybe later a better scan from the coil wiring diagram.

#6 4 months ago

I have a populated strange science playfield collecting dust. Let me know if you need any info on it.

#7 4 months ago

I have a truck stop with a manual and a spare mostly populated pf. let me know if i can be of any assistance.

#8 4 months ago
Quoted from Thrillhouse:

I have a populated strange science playfield collecting dust. Let me know if you need any info on it.

Sure you can help me.
The question is the same as for the others.
Solenoids coils please...

#9 4 months ago
Quoted from Syco54645:

I have a truck stop with a manual and a spare mostly populated pf. let me know if i can be of any assistance.

I've made this file on the run, but there is some more coil information in the manual.
I just could not recognize the code numbers for the coils.
Together with Atlantis this is one of the last games made this style boards.
Even the manual is begining to look like the newer style of Williams.
Please fill in tyhe blanks...

#10 4 months ago

Strange Science has most of this info in the manual, see attached excerpt. If you need me to verify anything else, let me know.

Pages from Strange_Science_English_Operating_Manual_Bally_1986.pdf

#11 4 months ago

I hope this is what you were looking for

12221101.pdf

#12 4 months ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

Strange Science has most of this info in the manual, see attached excerpt. If you need me to verify anything else, let me know.

I did notice this manual page.
The emphasis is on "most".
And yes, this information is processed in the list I've made.
What I need are the type of coils, which is not in the manual.
Just like Thrillhouse posted.

#13 4 months ago
Quoted from Thrillhouse:

I hope this is what you were looking for

Perfect, exactly what I need.
Thank you!

#14 4 months ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

I did notice this manual page.
The emphasis is on "most".
And yes, this information is processed in the list I've made.
What I need are the type of coils, which is not in the manual.
Just like Thrillhouse posted.

Got it. The rest of the info regarding coil types is in the parts manual. Do you have a page made for SS that I can complete for you?

#15 3 months ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

Got it. The rest of the info regarding coil types is in the parts manual. Do you have a page made for SS that I can complete for you?

I suppose you mean Strange Science and not Scared Stiff?
Strange Science is complete (so far).
I've made a list of the games in the first post and which ones are done for now.
I've put an asterix in front of the game name and added ", done".

#16 3 months ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

I suppose you mean Strange Science and not Scared Stiff?
Strange Science is complete (so far).
I've made a list of the games in the first post and which ones are done for now.
I've put an asterix in front of the game name and added ", done".

Yes I did mean the original SS Didn't realize it was complete, keep up the good work! I feel like 6803 games don't get enough love.

#17 3 months ago

Looks like someone has me on ignore

#18 3 months ago

I have Party Animal and can help out, although my upper right kickout solenoid has been replaced and not labeled.

#19 3 months ago

So....you do know that there is a game manual and a parts manual right? At least for D&D there is. The parts manual is what lists the coils and other assembly

#20 3 months ago
Quoted from BroMike:

I have Party Animal and can help out, although my upper right kickout solenoid has been replaced and not labeled.

I'll send you a message and an image as soon as I'm back from vacation. I only have mobile internet right now. Thanks for willing to help. You can collect all the type of coils right now.

#21 3 months ago
Quoted from Tallon:

So....you do know that there is a game manual and a parts manual right? At least for D&D there is. The parts manual is what lists the coils and other assembly

Yes, I know.
I've seen it the other day.
I'll zift through it and see what I am missing.

2 weeks later
#22 3 months ago
Quoted from BroMike:

I have Party Animal and can help out, although my upper right kickout solenoid has been replaced and not labeled.

I've made a file for you to work with.
Please see if you can find all the coils info, thanks.

#23 3 months ago

I'm out of town but will get you the info when I get back.

#24 3 months ago

I've edited the first posting after going thru the parts manuals for the various games.
Still need some more information for game I do not have the parts manual for.
Please see if you can help out....

#25 3 months ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

I've edited the first posting after going thru the parts manuals for the various games.
Still need some more information for game I do not have the parts manual for.
Please see if you can help out....

I'll get that special force info to you hopefully tonight.... Been busy busy lately.

#26 3 months ago

Finally got a chance to get these done for you.

Bally Special Force

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#27 3 months ago
Quoted from metalkatt:

Finally got a chance to get these done for you.
Bally Special Force

Excelent!
Thank you very much.
6 more games to go....

#28 86 days ago

@metalkatt,
Can you please check one more thing for me?
In the manual there is a Solenoid Expander relay.
One side (normaly closed) goes to the Bright Lights and the outhole & knocker.
Which color is this wire? (in the right side red cirkel)
The other side (normaly open) goes to all the other coils.
Which color is that wire? (in the left side red cirkel)

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#29 84 days ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

metalkatt,
Can you please check one more thing for me?
In the manual there is a Solenoid Expander relay.
One side (normaly closed) goes to the Bright Lights and the outhole & knocker.
Which color is this wire? (in the right side red cirkel)
The other side (normaly open) goes to all the other coils.
Which color is that wire? (in the left side red cirkel)

Oh boy, now you're asking for alot!!

I'll check this evening and let you know. Stay tuned....

#30 84 days ago
Quoted from metalkatt:

Oh boy, now you're asking for alot!!
I'll check this evening and let you know. Stay tuned....

It didn't add my smile race to my comment...I was just being sarcastic, not serious. I look forward to helping you out with this.

#31 82 days ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

metalkatt,
Can you please check one more thing for me?
In the manual there is a Solenoid Expander relay.
One side (normaly closed) goes to the Bright Lights and the outhole & knocker.
Which color is this wire? (in the right side red cirkel)
The other side (normaly open) goes to all the other coils.
Which color is that wire? (in the left side red cirkel)

I believe the open wire is yellow/red stripe
and closed is red/black stripe.

I included pictures of it for you.

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#32 82 days ago

Nope, my bad. I should've just looked in the manual.

Yellow/red - open
Black/blue - closed

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#33 82 days ago

Excelent!
In the schematic you can also see the Red-Black wire as supply to the relay.
Man, I hate those crummy, unreadable scans....
Thanks for helping out.

Peter

1 week later
#34 70 days ago

Hello you all,

Can someone please help me sort out a few little things for Truck Stop?
There are four lamps in the schematic and the lamp list that do not match with each other.

It is about the following lamps:
Q44 J10-12 I-Ramp Diamond 32 Yel-Blu
Q44 J10-12 Outlane Left 32 Yel-Blu
And...
Q59 J10-14 I-Ramp Letter 37 Yel-Orn
Q59 J10-14 Target Right 37 Yel-Orn

In the manual the one is at the other and vise virsa.
Could you please check the actual wiring for each lamp?
It would also be great to know on which pin of J10 each wire goes to.

Thank for your help,
Peter

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#35 69 days ago

i can help with this. send me an email cfh@provide.net

1 week later
#36 60 days ago

The files are comming along nicely.
Editing some errors along the way.
Adding some pictures to personalise the Tech Chart.
It will be nice to add a lot of them at the end of the month.
Progressing up to Party Animal at the moment....
Still can use some help with the Truck Stop problem though.

#37 53 days ago

Thanks to everyone who helped me out.
The new Tech Chart files are on my website.
Last two (Truck Stop & Atlantis) are still a work-in-progress.

1 month later
#38 20 days ago

Finaly the last two Tech Charts for the Bally 6803 series has been added.
Now the set is complete.
If you find any errors, please let me know and I'll correct it.

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