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Bad Power supply? System 6

By caz1844

5 years ago


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    #1 5 years ago

    Hey guys. I have a Firepower here that will no longer start a game...the original power supply is in the system and I suspect its bad as I now only get Displays 1,2 and some of 3. All coils test and lights test fine in the diags. I know that power supply is bad as all 4 displays were fine and then they stopped and this happened. My question is , will a bad power supply prevent the game from starting?

    #2 5 years ago

    Could be an issue - but have you tested your voltages? May need to recap it (if caps are circa 1980 it def could use it). and while you are in there add the fuses between the transformer and the bridge rectifiers in the backbox if this work is not already done.

    Game won’t start if it doesn’t register 3 balls in the game - so have a look at your ball trough switches. The 40 pin interconnect is also notorious for issues on system 6’s. You can separate and reconnect. If it improves you know you should replace that connector (reseating is not a permanent fix).

    Displays you can swap around to see if its a connector or display issue as well.

    #3 5 years ago

    Also is it going into audit mode (a numeric code in player 1 display)?

    #4 5 years ago

    It does not go into audit mode it looks like it's ready to.play upon boot...just player 3 is missing a digit and player 4 has no digits....switch test acts weird when I trigger some of the switches on the right side. It register several number switches before it stops. Very strange.

    #5 5 years ago
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    #6 5 years ago

    Appears to boot. Not to discount a power supply issue - but you have good displays other than 3 and 4. Not sure its related to a game not starting. Need to make sure game knows 3 balls are in it.

    #7 5 years ago

    My money's on the 40 pin.

    #8 5 years ago

    Oops double post.

    #9 5 years ago

    Does anyone think it can be the power supply...When the game worked the night before I had all 4 displays.

    #10 5 years ago

    Doubtful on the power supply. With the machine turned off, swap player 1 & 2 with player 3 & 4. Then turn on, see what shows up. I'm thinking bad connectors. If the displays went bad, then you will know because they are now in player 1 & 2.

    #11 5 years ago

    It appears like the '100s' digit is locked on in player 3 which appears to me to be a display driver board or mpu board issue

    #12 5 years ago

    Also how would I test the switch matrix for the trough and other switches besides the switch test in the diags? When I do activate those in the switch test they register several different numbers went activated.

    #13 5 years ago

    Have you separated the 2 boards and reconnected?

    #14 5 years ago

    No , not yet. I will try to reseat the boards

    #15 5 years ago

    Reseated the 40 pin connector and not change...upon further troubleshooting I noticed the entire row of switches is out the run the trough and roll overs etc. UGH

    #16 5 years ago

    Ended up being some bad n7406 chips and PIA for the switch matrix, but now I have a locked coil . UGH.
    Bought a rebuilt board.

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