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Backbox podcast: Let's Talk About Diversity!

By cait001

3 years ago


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    #120 3 years ago
    Quoted from metallik:

    The people here claiming to not be racist, sexist... you sure seem to be making quite the fuss over other peoples' attempts to bring pinball to more people. If you're not racist, why do these actions bother you so much? Funny how only the same few folks seem to have a problem with outreach.

    Why do we want keep one group's opinion locked down if this a frank discussion of diversity? People not agreeing with everything should not allow others to label them as racist or sexist.

    You will not make inroads with the population you which to enlighten unless a two way dialog exists.

    So, what can we do to increase diversity in pinball? As opposed to just discussing its existence, what ideas do people have to make pinball a more welcoming experience?

    Posting this from my own personal experience and not as a Pinside moderator.

    #123 3 years ago
    Quoted from metallik:

    That is why I asked them, who do other peoples' actions to bring more diverse people into pinball bother them so much?

    Nobody likes to be labeled.( i.e Privileged White Male) Painting a broad brush on any group can only cause more issues and not help solve an existing problem.

    #126 3 years ago
    Quoted from metallik:

    I didn't label anyone. I didn't call anyone a privileged white male. I asked people who are claiming not to be racist or sexist, why they are making such a fuss over other peoples' attempt to defeat racism and sexism.
    If that question makes someone uncomfortable, perhaps some introspect is in order.

    I was not responding directly to you but to earlier posts in this thread and broad strokes they were painting.

    I think discussion of this subject is great, but by excluding the group you hope to change, how can you accomplish the task?

    The law stated that some should be excluded because 90 % do not add to the discussion. What about the 10 % who may have good feedback and ideas on how to deal with the problem?

    Exclusion does not equal diversity.

    Again, my own opinion, no reflection on Robin or Pinside.

    #128 3 years ago

    Cait, do you think that the high cost of entry into the hobby may be part of the diversity problem?

    I can buy used golf clubs for 100$ from Goodwill and play on a public course cheap.

    Pinball requires a much bigger investment and also knowing someone that can service a broken pinball machine. There are no games on route near me, so I had to purchase my first pinball machine and figure out how to keep it going. (Thanks to Pinside)

    Could the age of the participants in the hobby also be another issue? I don't see a large number of youth attracted to the hobby.

    #132 3 years ago
    Quoted from metallik:

    As others have said, location play is available to anyone with a couple bucks. Also, you don't need to be wealthy to buy a fixer-upper pin and use the internet to learn how to fix it yourself. Your assumptions are actually part of the problem.

    My assumptions are fact in the area that I live. Operators have all but given up on my area. There is only one pinball machine locally in a movie theater.

    Don't think I am part of the problem. I did a leisure learning class with the local university to promote pinball in my area. I invited total strangers into my game room and allowed them to play and discuss the hobby. These folks were then invited to every tournament we had in the area moving forward.

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